Are All “Christians” Christian?

[noy]

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Thanks for asking that Bro. Noy, what made consider to embrace Islam is its message of PURE MONOTHEISM and the FAITH and ACTIONS as a believer are clearly defined.

ok bro,thanks for answering. it's good to know that you found what you're looking for. but with much respect to you.sa kina ilawman sa akong kasing-kasing..hehehe...i hope you could have searched more in the Christian faith.daghan pa unta ko nahan ipangutana sa imu brad
but wala naman ta sa topic..hahahaha God bless you brad.

[JcBoY]

ok bro,thanks for answering.nahan pa unta ko mangutana ug daghan sa imu but wala naman ta sa topic.hahaha
it's good to know that you found what you're looking for. but with much respect to you.sa kina ilawman sa akong kasing-kasing..hehehe...i hope you could have searched more in the Christian faith.daghan pa unta ko nahan ipangutana sa imu brad
but wala naman ta sa topic..hahahaha God bless you brad.

Bitaw! but ug ganahan gyud ka naa ra man mi sa Masjid Al-Khairiah sa may Mambaling pangitaa lang ang pundok sa mga Balik-Islam. Likewise, God Bless and Salaamun alaykum brother!

[heliopause]

Dong, ang kamatuoran para sa mga Muslims mora na ug BULAWAN bisan tabonan pa na nimo ug LAPOK, BULAWAN gihapon na! Ug kon imong INITON bisan pa sa unsa ka kataas nga temperature sama sa imong gibuhat nga pang-attack mosamot nuon na ka KATINGKAD nga mopakita sa iyang pagka-MADANIHON diin kadtong mga sincero nga nangita sa kamatuoran walay mahimo gawas sa PAG-ANGKON ana nga MITHI sa BULAWAN. Di na balak ha! MAO NAY KAMATUORAN that is why ISLAM is the FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the WORLD. And thanks to the likes of you nga nahimong fuel para maka-create ug awareness to seek the truth about ISLAM out of the LIES nga imong gipakatap.

Naa raman diay bro, so ayaw kahadlok ug share sa imong bulawan para makasabot sad mi ba kung dili ba jud na fake kay phobia na baya mi anang mga bulawan kuno nga baligya sa mga aki ilawm merkado nya molubad diay to..jeehheee. joke ra bro ha!

Ang offer sa Ginoong Hesus bro kay among gipanghagad nga libre ra. Kinsa to ganahan mahibalo, welcome jud kaayo. Daghan mga verses bro nga nindot kayo paminawn para sa uhaw nga kalag.

Psalms 12:6
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace
of earth, purified seven times.

Matthew 11:28
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you
rest.

John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in
me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Bitaw, ai kalain kung atakihon imong belief kay dili mana matarug bisan unsaon pa basta tinuod na.

[JcBoY]

Naa raman diay bro, so ayaw kahadlok ug share sa imong bulawan para makasabot sad mi ba kung dili ba jud na fake kay phobia na baya mi anang mga bulawan kuno nga baligya sa mga ako ilawm merkado nya molubad diay to..jeehheee. joke ra bro ha!

Bitaw, ai kalain kung atakihon imong belief kay dili mana matarug bisan unsaon pa basta tinuod na.

Wa lagi nay problema para nako dong, but you have to see the THREAD TITLE para di ka mag-mukhang ASKAL!

[noy]

Bitaw! but ug ganahan gyud ka naa ra man mi sa Masjid Al-Khairiah sa may Mambaling pangitaa lang ang pundok sa mga Balik-Islam. Likewise, God Bless and Salaamun alaykum brother!

katuod ko ana brad..sa may fooda..hehehe

[JcBoY]

katuod ko ana brad..sa may fooda..hehehe

Insha'Allah (God willing) bro!

[noy]

Naa raman diay bro, so ayaw kahadlok ug share sa imong bulawan para makasabot sad mi ba kung dili ba jud na fake kay phobia na baya mi anang mga bulawan kuno nga baligya sa mga aki ilawm merkado nya molubad diay to..jeehheee. joke ra bro ha!

Bitaw, ai kalain kung atakihon imong belief kay dili mana matarug bisan unsaon pa basta tinuod na.

hahaha..bugoya jud nimu brad oi.. pero naa jud kay point brad..pero kinahanglan najud ta mubalik sa topic..Lol
paghimu lag thread brad nga adto ta maka pasundayag sa atong mga gpangbati..hehehehe...God bless us all

[Aphiemi]

No, the most important thing is to have God in our lives. Of course prayers are done wilfully. We don't pray for His benefit, it is US that needs HIM. Jesus is the Messiah and without him, we would not be Muslim.

Salam.

Christians believe,well, in my denomination we believe Jesus was both man and God. Muslims on the other hand rejects the idea of divinity therefore from our point of view no matter how much you claim him to be your messiah, Islam can never be connected with the REAL Jesus unless they embrace the idea of Godhood in Christ.

Jesus pbuh is seen as Divine in Christianity because he was born without a father (God said "Kun faya kun" meaning "be, and it is"). Now we know that Adam and Eve were born without a father NOR mother, wouldn't that make them even more Divine? God does not beget!

this idea is almost correct, the only flaw that i see here is on the way you based your idea of Jesus divinity. Jesus being born through non-physical means is not the ground where we take the idea of divinity from but rather on his claims and miracles seen in the bible.

so for the most part this is a straw man argument, your claim that is.

Remember the Ten Commandments of Moses pbuh. The first commandment: "Hear ye O Israel, The Lord thy God is ONE". Jesus' job was to reinforce the law of Moses (The 10 Commandments) as they (the Israelites) were going astray and not to start a new religion. Muhammad pbuh is in the Bible too. Jesus told of the coming of a comforter after him (Muhammad) who (in John 16:13) "will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come". Jesus said that! Muhammad pbuh was chosen to remind and reinforce the same teachings of the prophets before him.

you got John 16:13 wrong, that verse speaks about the coming of the Holy Spirit, not Muhammad.

The books written about Jesus were written 90-100 years after Jesus. One of the concepts that Saul/Paul introduced for his "new Jesus" was that: he died on the cross to wash eternal sins of the children of Adam. A new covenant was created by Paul who said they did not have to observe the Sabbath which is one of the Ten Commandments. That's why Christians now worship on Sundays. Constantine (Emperor of Rome) worshipped on Sunday because the Romans and the Greeks prayed to the Sun-god. They also believed in the Moon-god (Monday), Thor (Thursday) etc. Gods of the Romans. Before this, worship was on the Sabbath.

which book is that, I mean, the one that was written 90-100 years after Jesus? Paul for the most part was responsible for the formation of the Gentile Church but but the idea of dying on the cross for the remission of our sins certainly came from God w/c He revealed it to Paul.

Gentile Christians are not bound by Jewish laws, keeping the Sabbath was entirely for Jews.

..Now, Jesus was allegedly crucified on "Good Friday" in the afternoon which for Jewish people is Saturday or the "Sabbath" and on Sabbath, persecution or crucifixion is not allowed. It would have taken him around 3 days to die coz they only drove nails through his hands and his feet. He was left to be humiliated, tortured and die a slow, painful death. How can someone die on the cross before sunset? Also it says, after he died allegedly, a Roman soldier stuck a spear in his side and water/blood came out. But if someone is dead, the heart wouldn't be pumping any water/blood right?

Jewish sabbath starts on Friday on sunset, Jesus died before sunset. The Roman soldier struck his spear on Jesus side to make his death quick.

The Qur'an states that God saved Jesus and raised him up to Him until his return. The Qur'an is telling the truth. In the words of Shaykh Khalid Yasin, it's not "crucifixion" it's "cruci-FICTION".

This is not a challenge, this is my rational explanation as to why I believe in what I believe.

its not cruci-fiction what's fiction is the quran's version.

[heliopause]

@apheimi

you have the point sad bro. God bless! back to topic nata.

[JcBoY]

Naa raman diay bro, so ayaw kahadlok ug share sa imong bulawan para makasabot sad mi ba kung dili ba jud na fake kay phobia na baya mi anang mga bulawan kuno nga baligya sa mga aki ilawm merkado nya molubad diay to..jeehheee. joke ra bro ha!

Ang offer sa Ginoong Hesus bro kay among gipanghagad nga libre ra. Kinsa to ganahan mahibalo, welcome jud kaayo. Daghan mga verses bro nga nindot kayo paminawn para sa uhaw nga kalag.

Psalms 12:6
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace
of earth, purified seven times.

Matthew 11:28
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you
rest.

John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in
me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Bitaw, ai kalain kung atakihon imong belief kay dili mana matarug bisan unsaon pa basta tinuod na.

Katawa man pud ko nimo Bro, pero kon ikaw nangita ug bulawan kahibalo gyud ka mokilatis dili lang gyud ka pataka ug dasmag kay daghan kaayo maayo nga mo-peke, kanang mga akhi nato labaw pa na ka-abtik nimo bro. Andam ka ana nila kay labaw pa na ka gwatsinanggo nimo kay para nila kanang manganak hayop ra sama sa baboy, kanding, baka, iro ug uban pa, DILI MANGANAK ANG GINOO nila bro.

AYAW NA SIGI UG LABAY UG mga BIBLE VERSES nako kay di gyud na katalab sa akong CRITERIA sa KAMATUORAN sama ani o:

CRITERIA FOR TRUTH

How do we know that a revelation like the Qur'an is the word of God?.
The criteria for truth can be easily understood by all:-

1. RATIONAL TEACHINGS: Since God bestowed reason and intellect on
mankind, it is our duty to use it to distinguish truth from falsehood.
True undistorted revelation from God must be rational and can be
reasoned out by all unbiased minds.

2. PERFECTION: Since God is all perfect, His revelation must be perfect
and accurate, free from mistakes, omissions, interpolations and
multiplicity of versions. It should be free from contradictions in its
narration.

3. NO MYTHS OR SUPERSTITIONS: True revelation from God is free from
myths or superstitions that degrade the dignity of God or man.

4. SCIENTIFIC: Since God is the Creator of all knowledge, true
revelation is scientific and can with-stand the challenge of science at
all times.

5. PROPHECY: God is the Knower of the past, present and future. Thus
His word of prophecies in His revelation will be fulfilled as
prophesied.

6. INIMITABLE BY MAN: True revelation from God is infallible and cannot
be imitated by man. God's true revelation is a living miracle, an open
Book challenging all mankind to see and prove for themselves.


NOW BALIK NA SA INYO TOPIC!!!!