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    @SioDenz I thought u knew I was a convert/revert all this time? Lolz. For almost a year now alhamdulillah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    @SioDenz I thought u knew I was a convert/revert all this time? Lolz. For almost a year now alhamdulillah!
    Wala ko kabalo oi

    question lan ha, is it a requirement sa muslim to read the quran sa tanan niyang content before ka ma convert? or ok ra mupadayun ug basa after ka ma convert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Wala ko kabalo oi

    question lan ha, is it a requirement sa muslim to read the quran sa tanan niyang content before ka ma convert? or ok ra mupadayun ug basa after ka ma convert?
    lol well now u know lah

    u ask before converting do we have to read the whole Qur'an?
    Answer: No. If u believe in ONE God and that Muhammad is his final messenger then ur pretty much Muslim. The next step (I guess to make it official within the Muslim community) is to say the Shahadah stating just that: "I testify there is no God but God and that Muhammad is His messenger" with at least two witnesses (I think 2...I had a room full lol). However, it is required to have some basic knowledge of Islam.

    I am still reading Qur'an....in fact I am still learning to pronounce Arabic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphiemi View Post
    ako ra ni nga opinion ha, i don't really know sa intention sa ts.

    ang gosto lang sigoro jud sa ts nga ma edukar ta sa kamatooran, ma ablihan atong mga hunahuna haron ma tandi nato ang sakto nga kaalam mahitungod sa atong Relihiyon.
    mao jud nay point bro. kay nag expect man gud ta kasagaran that what we have is the truth. Unya kung itandi na nato daghan diay ang dili mao. dili man pud pwed nga tanan insakto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    @heliopause. I pray to Allah swt everyday, brother at least 5 times a day. But you forget that God has given us brains to use to search for the truth for ourselves...which I have done so that's a reason why I chose Islam.
    That's good sis and hope praying 5 times a day is done willfully and driven by love not compliance.
    I could say that there is nothing for other religions to educate the christians because christianity is an education in itself. Jesus Christ himself is the complete manifestation of the Father.

    Jesus pbuh has always been in my life and has always been in the lives of Muslims. The historical Jesus and his teachings that is...not the one Saul/Paul created.
    That’s the most important thing to have sis, Jesus Christ in our life. Do you mean you have now accepted Jesus Christ as your saviour also? But how come you’ll know him if you do not read the writings of the apostles which can only be found in the bible?

    All the historians in his time agreed he was crucified, all the apostles and other 500 disciples witnessed his resurrection and in your Quran it says that he did not. Now who’s telling the truth?

    , Oh and btw, Muhammad pbuh actually met Allah swt. Angel Jibreel took him on Bouraq to see him personally. This was because God commanded us to pray 50 times a day but with the help of Moses pbuh (yes he met all the prophets including Jesus) it was reduced to 5. So ur idea of one on one communication with God being exclusive to just the prophets before Muhammad has just been dusted.
    Anybody can take such claim but who else witnessed it? That is subject to be disputed sis but I don’t have time for that. Just think on some of the verses in the Quran which is very outrageous and incompassionate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    mao jud nay point bro. kay nag expect man gud ta kasagaran that what we have is the truth. Unya kung itandi na nato daghan diay ang dili mao. dili man pud pwed nga tanan insakto.
    Di pwedi tanan insakto pero ultimately ang dunay authority nga mu Judge kinsay tinuod is ang Ginoo ra ghapon.

    We can compare as hard as we want but the best thing we can come up with is - to CLAIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Di pwedi tanan insakto pero ultimately ang dunay authority nga mu Judge kinsay tinuod is ang Ginoo ra ghapon.
    We can compare as hard as we want but the best thing we can come up with is - to CLAIM.
    Naa kay point diha sio but it only shows nga duna kay pagduha-duha sa imong gituohan. I understand probably because dili paka satisfied sa imong knowledge of your belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    Naa kay point diha sio but it only shows nga duna kay pagduha-duha sa imong gituohan. I understand probably because dili paka satisfied sa imong knowledge of your belief.
    Wa koy pagduha duha unsa ug asa akong tumong ug gituuhan bro - nagtuo ko ug Ginoo ug gusto ko makauban niya ig ka human sa akong Kinabuhi, sure ko ana.

    Pero ang Di ko sure if ang akong Dalan nga gisubay padulong niya, ang akong mga ginabuhat sakto na ba para maka uban ko niya.

    Mao nay ginatudlo ni Kristo, ang pagkamahiubsanun kay kitang tanan maluwas tungod kay Kaluy-an di tungod sa atung garbo. Kay ang kaluwasan GASA man gikan niya ug wa natu trabaho-i.

    Di ta magpalabi ug pataas sa atung garbo ug nakat-unan kunuhay kay wa nay kwenta sa atubangan sa Dios. Basin mapariha tas mga Pareseo nga SureBall na daw kaayu sila sa ilang gituhuan pero way kwenta sa atubangn ni Kristo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Wa koy pagduha duha unsa ug asa akong tumong ug gituuhan bro - nagtuo ko ug Ginoo ug gusto ko makauban niya ig ka human sa akong Kinabuhi, sure ko ana.

    Pero ang Di ko sure if ang akong Dalan nga gisubay padulong niya, ang akong mga ginabuhat sakto na ba para maka uban ko niya.

    Mao nay ginatudlo ni Kristo, ang pagkamahiubsanun kay kitang tanan maluwas tungod kay Kaluy-an di tungod sa atung garbo. Kay ang kaluwasan GASA man gikan niya ug wa natu trabaho-i.

    Di ta magpalabi ug pataas sa atung garbo ug nakat-unan kunuhay kay wa nay kwenta sa atubangan sa Dios. Basin mapariha tas mga Pareseo nga SureBall na daw kaayu sila sa ilang gituhuan pero way kwenta sa atubangn ni Kristo.
    being firm to what you believed to be true is different from being arrogant and proud. Dont get me wrong ha but what i mean is let us be true of who we are, usahay man gud as what i observed youre taking side sa atheism, other false teachings...

    Anyway, sorry if youre offended of my rebuke but i love you in the lord brother. I am just concern that may our faith be strengthend. peace bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    being firm to what you believed is true is different from being arrogant and proud. Dont get me wrong ha but what i mean is let us be true of who we are, usahay man gud as what i observed youre taking side sa atheism, other false teachings...

    Anyway, sorry if youre offended of my rebuke but i love you in the lord brother. I am just concern that may our faith be strengthend. peace bro.
    hahaha. i never sided with the concept of Atheism. but sometimes I agree with some ATHEIST's comment to some of the poster here that call themselves Christians

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