Are All “Christians” Christian?

[heliopause]

"early manuscripts" i've read about it before...discussed it here before too in another thread so don't bother.

"They (i.e. Jews and Christians) changed words from their contexts and forgot a good part of the message given to them, and you will continue to find them -except a few among them- bent on new deceits…" (al-Ma'idah: 13)

Before I go any further what do u mean by Allah not having a personal name??

okay sis. If you say it was changed, then what are those specific words in the bible?>can you cite so that i'll be aware also?

The places where the events took place were mostly in Israel not Arabia. All of the prophets were Jews and not Arabs. All the accounts in the bible were written by those firsthand witnesses and not like Mohamed (pbuh) who have no knowledge and experience of the happenings.

Now of all the 40 authors of the bible, were they all in error and only Mohammed has the truth?

[KlaytoN]

@jcboy

ang pag advance sa kamatuoran about sa ginoo dili idala ug coercion or worse than that because TRUTH is an attribute of God. If people reject it, consider. We are given freewill, time will come people will realize the value of truth.

If we imagine kung Islam na ang religion sa mga jews as you claim it, dili tingali ingon ani ang atong view or experience sa kalipay ug gugma as we know it. Love and forgiveness is the key to win people's heart and you can only know that in the teachings of Christianity.

Please don't take Judaism and Christianity into exemption from any atrocities and mass murders against fellow humans. Your Christian religion is as guilty as them. The only difference is that Christianity has evolved faster than Islam. kumbaga naiwan ang Islam sa pag modernize maybe around 500 years. In short mas nauna naging tolerant ang christianity kaysa islam.

[heliopause]

It is rapidly growing but there is no compulsion.

i dont believe in that sis. try to study the muslims in the middle east who converted to christianity. if you want some video links i can give you.

Let me share this to you:
1) A Christian who converted to Islam is either having less knowledge/experience about his belief or enticed to some offers
2) A muslim who converted to Christianity were mostly having an experience with Jesus either in dreams, visions or admiration with the way the believers treated them.

That's the truth coz Christianity is not just a religion but a personal relationship with our creator.

[heliopause]

Please don't take Judaism and Christianity into exemption from any atrocities and mass murders against fellow humans. Your Christian religion is as guilty as them. The only difference is that Christianity has evolved faster than Islam. kumbaga naiwan ang Islam sa pag modernize maybe around 500 years. In short mas nauna naging tolerant ang christianity kaysa islam.

No its not. If we say when Jews or Christians inflicted atrocities and murder with fellow humans, first you need to understand that when a Jew or a christian is doing it, he is in direct violation to the God and the very teachings that he claimed. On the contrary, if any muslim will do the same atrocities and murder, he is not only adhering to the teachings of quran but fulfilling the very profound command of their prophet mohammad (pbuh). That's the difference, correct me if I am wrong.

If you have time bro you can study more about the martyrdom of the first century christians para makasabot ka sa tinud-anay nga christianity kung in ana ba ang ilang binuhatan. Inquisitions and the crusades bro were driven by personal glory, bloodlust, power, greed, etc. by people who were not truly converted.

https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...l-shocked.html (CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION. very inhumane. YOU'LL BE SHOCKED!!!!!!!)

[noy]

muslims have bad muslims as much as we have bad christians..it doesnt mean that islam is bad 'cause of what we see on TV.
and it doesn't mean that Christianity is a hoax 'cause some people think it's illogical whatsoever..
muslims would claim that their faith is truth as much as we would claim ours is. bottom line is we will just be running in circles
talking about whose right and whose not..we both believe in 1 God,allah for our muslim bros and Jehovah or Yahweh for Jews aand Jesus as 1 with the Father and spirit for us Christians, i wouldn't be able to speak for our muslim brothers 'cause i haven't read quran which placed me in a place where i absolutely cannot comment about their faith.but as i christian i believe we have been commanded by Jesus to love one another..i think that goes out to everyone..and as a Christian i firmly believe that Jesus died for all of our sins..Jesus died for muslims.jews,CHristians,and most of all for the people who doesn't believe in God..if people would not accept our faith as a Christian then at least we would respect them for what they beleived in..so that somehow they would see Jesus our God in our understanding. peace be with you all..

[Aphiemi]

@heliopause, a.k.a. Santopaps/Blutors/WordOfGod/Marine77/wormwoods kon akoy patubagon nimo sa thread title mao ni akong tubag, Qur'anic based;

"From those too who call themselves Christians We did take a Covenant but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent them: so We estranged them with enmity and hatred between the one and the other to the Day of Judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done." Qur'an 5:14

E-reconcile sa na ninyo nga Qur'anic revelation, to make it false hala pag-usa daw mo sa tanan ninyong principles and ways as a Christian.

And watch this video as your former fellow Baptist Eric said @2:54, "Islam is EVERYTHING I wanted Christianity to be"

the best film or movie I have seen in my life - YouTube

pasabot tinood ang quran tungod kay wa naghi osa ang mga Christians?

kana nga verse man gud gibuhat na sa panahon nga naa na ang Christianity,di ba ona man ang Christianity na established kaysa Islam?, og atong panahona daghan ng nang gawas nga mga sayop nga pagtulun.an within Christendom. So para nako di na osa ka Prophecy or REVEALED WORD gikan sa Allah BUT gisulti ra ni Mohammad ang iyang na obserbahan atong panahona, nothing special.

so kana nga particular nga verse cannot be falsified but di pod pasabot nga sakto na ang katibok.an sa quran tungod lang ana nga versikulo. There are different ways to refute the Qur'an, like this one...Where are the original manuscripts written by the scribes of Muhammad?

[kemalzeppy]

If you try comparing the qur'an and bible, please don't. But if really want too, please read the entire book first not just type and search it on the net,

[naftal]

si christian ako classmate kai atheist man

[7DMM]

on the verge of killing this thread.

[LaBelleza]

Ok well since u said that @7DMM I wont post much in case it goes to waste..

But this..this this this this THISSSS....

1) A Christian who converted to Islam is either having less knowledge/experience about his belief or enticed to some offers...

not only is it offensive but is W to the R to the O-N-G. I bet u just read that somewhere. How would u really know the real reason of reverting to Islam. Offers? The offer of the truth and promise of Jannah yes definitely. I have gained more knowledge about Christianity through Islam and I am closer to God than ever. We don't need to find Jesus. We've already found him. In the Qur'an...25 times.

The Jewish people really follow Jesus as well as the Muslims. We dress like him (girls dress like Mary), men grow beards like him, don't smoke, don't eat pork, don't drink, pray (I know Christians pray alhuamdulillah).

Anyways, if permitted, back to 'Are "Christians" Christian' (sorry the thread digressed)