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    Default Re: Are All “Christians” Christian?


    Sakto ka bro denz kani nga thread mag promote lang jud ug lalis.

  2. #312

    Default Re: Are All “Christians” Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Hmmm that is a strange question. Are u asking if us Muslims believe in God (swt) but not follow the example of Muhammad (saw)? As Muslims we associate God with all the prophets.

    Still not sure where ur trying to get at tho.
    Yes. Coz for me if im going to follow Muhammad's footsteps i think it's not acceptable to a democratic society where i live in. Allow me to give you just a few examples:

    1) Choosing a 6yr old girl for a wife i think is very unusual for a 50+yrs old man
    2) Killing those who opposes my belief
    3) Killing members of my family who converts to other religion

    Kindly tell us your honest opinion. I know there are some of you who are against these things.

  3. #313

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Not really the founder since he didn't create Islam, Allah created Islam. Muhammad brought the message. Anyone who follows one God is a Muslim. Muslim is really a word meaning one who supplicates to God. So pretty much, Islam existed way before Muhammad. It just wasn't called Islam back then...if ya get me.
    I agree sis. That's the beauty of Islam, the belief in one God. But i could ask one thing, did God gave his words to both Jews (tanach) and the Christians (bible) to believe in it and allow both of them to dillute his words in order to confuse the following believers? muslims argued that our books were tampered/changed.

    Please note that the Trinity is not polytheism, you just dont get its concept.

  4. #314

    Default Re: Are All “Christians” Christian?

    @crinks

    maglalis man gani nang banag asawa nga magtupad jud nag tulog inig gabii..hahhaa! normal ra nang lalis part basta wala lay binastos or insulto nga words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    @crinks

    maglalis man gani nang banag asawa nga magtupad jud nag tulog inig gabii..hahhaa! normal ra nang lalis part basta wala lay binastos or insulto nga words.
    Maglalis bitaw na ang managtiayon part pero i doubt kun religion ilang lalisan.

    Unsa may purpose ani nga thread? I want a direct answer from u kanag dili copy paste ha.
    Last edited by Crinkles11; 07-09-2012 at 12:43 PM.

  6. #316

    Default Re: Are All “Christians” Christian?

    ang purpose sa tanang thread is to discuss matters clearly. daghan pang wala kadungog sa laing views. normal lang ning mga lalis usahay but we have the moderator man.

    let me ask you, unsay imong purpose y niapil ka sa discussion, para mouyon2 lang? tell us daw kanang dili copy paste sad.

  7. #317

    Default Re: Are All “Christians” Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    ang purpose sa tanang thread is to discuss matters clearly. daghan pang wala kadungog sa laing views. normal lang ning mga lalis usahay but we have the moderator man.

    let me ask you, unsay imong purpose y niapil ka sa discussion, para mouyon2 lang? tell us daw kanang dili copy paste sad.
    Sakto ka bro normal ra ni sa discussion ang maglalis pero dri sa istorya naa mn forum rules. Ug klaro kaau na sa forum rule #2. respects persons of all races, religions, cultures, and sexualities.

    Unsay ikasulti nimo sa thread title bro? Dili ba ni discrimination?


    dis·crim·i·na·tion
    1.an act or instance of discriminating
    .2.treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction infavor of or against, a person or thing based on the group,class, or category to which that person or thing belongsrather than on individual merit: racial and religious intoleranceand discrimination.

    3.the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination.

    4.Archaic . something that serves to differentiate.
    Last edited by Crinkles11; 07-09-2012 at 02:24 PM.

  8. #318

    Default Re: Are All “Christians” Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    Sakto ka bro normal ra ni sa discussion ang maglalis pero dri sa istorya naa mn forum rules. Ug klaro kaau na sa forum rule #2. respects persons of all races, religions, cultures, and sexualities.

    Unsay ikasulti nimo sa thread title bro? Dili ba ni discrimination?
    i got your point part but dili man tingali na discrimination ang pagsulti kung unsay kamatuoran. negative and hesitant lang ta usahay. Ang insakto nga teachings maoy atong gusto madungog.

    Dili mana sayop kung mangutana ta about sa ubang beliefs, para man sad makadungog ta sa ilang side nya makashare sad ta sa atua. Normal lang na kung mangita ra sa kamatuoran. Wala manta mag-insultohay/binastos diri kay atong aim is to spread the good news. Halos kita baya tanan mga Christians diri. We believe in the same saviour.

    Kung naay mga words nako na makaoffend part, i ask sorry for it. peace and unity to all of us!

  9. #319

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    Yes. Coz for me if im going to follow Muhammad's footsteps i think it's not acceptable to a democratic society where i live in. Allow me to give you just a few examples:

    1) Choosing a 6yr old girl for a wife i think is very unusual for a 50+yrs old man
    2) Killing those who opposes my belief
    3) Killing members of my family who converts to other religion

    Kindly tell us your honest opinion. I know there are some of you who are against these things.
    Dong, Santopaps/Blutors/WordOfGod/Marine77/wormwoods and now heliopause....

    Hilig man gyud tawon ka ug mag-sidetrip and then create sub-topic nga wala man gani tawon Islam/Muslim/Allah/Muhammad sa title sa thread pero kay para nimo nindot man kaha tirahon ang Islam. You might think that all Muslims believed that hadith narrating about Prophet Muhammad marrying a 6 yrs old girl without verifying and analyzing its veracity, then I tell you, YOU ARE YOUNG! In the Islamic School of Thought where I belong WE DON'T BELIEVED IT. Since you are fond of posting youtube links, I will answer your accusation with a youtube links an explanation from one our scholar, Dr. Mesbah Moosavi.

    Did Prophet Muhammad marry a 9 year old? (Ayesha)| Part 1 | English - YouTube

    Did Prophet Muhammad marry a 9 year old? (Ayesha)| Part 2 | English - YouTube

    And your #2 and #3 are plain manifestations of your ignorance. An accusation that does not hold ground considering that Islam today is considered the FASTEST RELIGION in the world and still gaining more adherents in EUROPE and even in AMERICA.

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    Default Re: Are All “Christians” Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by defender_1611 View Post
    Remembrance lage pero nganu mu ingon man ang pari, catechist, nuns, sakristan etc. na literal na na body and blood ni Jesus Christ?
    sorry bro but i cannot speak on their behalf. maybe literal isn't literal at all.
    as for me,what i believed in was explained on the link that i posted previously
    regarding the reason why we have the communion.and i thnk the consideration taken by catholics that
    it is the actual body of christ is the best way for some catholics to not take the holy eucharist lightly.
    'cause it is the very sacrifce of God for redemption.but clearly that idea has confused some people as well..
    perhaps you might wanna read again the scripture that i posted.most jewish people who have been a follower of Jesusfound His teaching about the fulfilment of the Jewish passover feast absurd.
    Last edited by noy; 07-09-2012 at 03:58 PM.

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