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    Its illogical how can you say that someone is wrong in interpreting a certain book when you yourself don't read the book?
    your baseless argument is purely an assumption and blind propaganda.
    Unless if you can prove or present evidence that we have the wrong interpretation then we can have a more sensible discussion.
    sakto ni nga point. daghan diri akong na bantayan nga mag sige og ingon nga "SAYOP MO" or "DI RA KAMO ANG GAKUPOT SA KAMATOORAN" but offers no explanation or proofs.

    if ask to give an exegesis, wala lang mo dayon lng og accuse nga "di ra lagi kamo ang nagkopot sa truth" or "daghang interprettion ana" but again no evidence, di nila ma articulate ang ponto kay sila mismo WALA GATOON SA BIBLE.

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    ^^ but in ko ha: so what bai if we don't study the bible (closely)? you mean to say that you bring & study the bible 24/7?
    Come on bai. nough with the hypocracy.Even the scholars, pastors, Priest, etc get into a serious mess sometimes. If you do study it, then you should also practice it. Isn't it enough proof that we all have different interpretation of the bible? the bible even have multiple versions for crying out loud. I bet that the bible i have (the verses in it) is totally different from what you have. Are you carrying all the Bible Versions?COz i if you are, you deserve a round of applause for that! I bet your group just chose 1 official version para magkasinabot mo tanan.right? correct me if i am wrong ok?!

    The problem with what most of the "Aggressive Christians"(& MOST of the time Arrogant, because of their personal conviction that they are the "SAVED" ones) is that they don't do what they have also read. Didn't Jesus taught them Humility? Who taught them being the "Judge"? most of these guys would say only GOD/Jesus has the authority to judge us, not by people who act More like Cult members rather than coming from a TRUE Christian religion.

    Seriously bai, i Believe that a True Christian should Preach, Teach & be an example. Reading the bible is needed but what is important is to show the world what was taught to us. The Bible is our guide, but ACTIONS always speaks louder bai.

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    Really~ who are we to judge our own brothers and sisters if they are truly christians or not. There is only one judge. In the end, all of us will be judge individually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    James 1:26

    If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
    James 1:26
    These words show that how you use your tongue is a serious matter. It affects more than your relationship with your mate; it affects your very relationship with Jehovah God.

    1 Peter 3:7.

    the man that does not bridle his tongue his (personal) form of worship to God is futile. (James 1:26; 3:2, 3)

    nice quote from the bible.

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    Jesus says:
    “Remain in My Word”

    “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples,
    and you will know the truth, and the truth will set
    you free.”
    JOHN 8:31, 32.

    What It Means: Jesus’ “word” means his teachings, which came from a higher source. “The Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak,” said Jesus. (John 12:49) In prayer to his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, Jesus said: “Your word is truth.” He frequently quoted God’s Word to support his teachings. (John 17:17; Matthew 4:4, 7, 10) True Christians, therefore, ‘remain in his word’ —that is, they accept God’s Word, the Bible, as “truth” and the ultimate authority for their beliefs and practices.

    How Early Christians Measured Up: The most prolific Christian Bible writer, the apostle Paul, shared Jesus’ respect for God’s Word. He wrote: “All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial.” (2 Timothy 3:16) Men appointed to teach fellow Christians had to “hold fast to the sure and trust worthy Word of God.” (Titus 1:7, 9, The Amplified Bible) Early Christians were admonished to reject “the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ.”—Colossians 2:8.

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    “No Part of the World”

    “The world has hated them,
    because they are no part of
    the world.”
    JOHN 17:14

    What It Means:
    Being no part of the world, Jesus was neutral in the social and political conflicts of the day. “If my kingdom were part of this world,” he explained, “my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.” (John 18:36) He also urged his followers to shun attitudes, speech, and conduct condemned in God’s Word.—Matthew20:25-27.

    How Early Christians Measured Up:
    According to religion writer Jonathan Dymond, the early Christians “refused to engage in [war]; whatever were the consequences, whether reproach, or imprisonment, or death.” They chose to suffer rather than compromise their neutral stand. Their moral code also set them apart. Christians were told: “Because you do not continue running with them in this course to the same low sink of debauchery, they are puzzled and go on speaking abusively of you.” (1 Peter 4:4) Historian Will Durant wrote that Christians “were troubling the pleasure-mad pagan world with their piety and their decency.”

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    “Have Love Among Yourselves”

    “I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another;
    just as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this
    all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love
    among yourselves.”—JOHN 13:34, 35.

    What It Means:
    Christ told his followers to love one another the way that he loved them. How did Jesus love them? His love transcended the national and gender bias prevalent in his day. (John 4:7-10) Love moved Jesus to sacrifice his time, energy, and personal comfort in order to help others. (Mark 6:30-34) Finally, Christ showed love in the greatest way possible. “I am the fine shepherd,” he said. “The fine shepherd surrenders his soul in behalf of the sheep.”—John 10:11.
    How Early Christians Measured Up:
    In the first century, Christians called each other “brother” or “sister.” (Philemon 1, 2) People of all nations were welcomed into the Christian congregation, for they believed that “there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for there is the same Lord over all.” (Romans 10:11, 12) After Pentecost 33 C.E., the disciples in Jerusalem “went selling their possessions and properties and distributing the proceeds to all, just as anyone would have the need.” For what purpose? So that those newly baptized could remain in Jerusalem and continue “devoting themselves to the teaching of the apostles.” (Acts 2:41-45) What motivated such actions? Less than 200 years after the death of the apostles, Tertullian quoted what others said of Christians: “How they love one another . . . and how they are ready even to die for one another.”

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    “I Have Made Your Name Known”

    “I have made your name manifest to the men you
    gave me out of the world. . . . I have made your
    name known to them and will make it known.”
    JOHN 17:6, 26.

    What It Means:

    Jesus made known God’s name by using it in his ministry.When Jesus read from the Scriptures, as he often did, he would have pronounced God’s personal name. (Luke 4:16-21) He taught his followers to pray: “Father, let your name be sanctified.”—Luke 11:2.

    How Early Christians Measured Up: The apostle Peter related to the older men at Jerusalem that God had taken out of the nations “a people for his name.” (Acts 15:14) The apostles and others preached that “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” (Acts 2:21; Romans 10:13) They also used the divine name in their own writings. The Tosefta, a collection of Jewish laws completed by about 300 C.E., says regarding the burning of Christian writings by opposers: “The books of the Evangelists and the books of the minim [thought to be Jewish Christians] they do not save from a fire. But they are allowed to burn where they are, . . . they and the references to the Divine Name which are in them.”

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    “This Good News of the Kingdom Will Be Preached”

    “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for
    a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”—MATTHEW 24:14.

    What It Means:
    The Gospel writer Luke reported that Jesus “went journeying from city to city and from village to village, preaching and declaring the good news of the kingdom of God.” (Luke 8:1) Jesus himself said:“I must declare the good news of the kingdom of God, because for this I was sent forth.” (Luke 4:43) He sent his disciples to preach the good news in the towns and villages and later commanded them: “You will be witnesses of me . . . to the most distant part of the earth.”—Acts 1:8; Luke 10:1.
    How Early Christians Measured Up:
    Jesus’ disciples wasted no time in doing what Jesus told them. “Every day in the temple and from house to house they continued without let up teaching and declaring the good news about the Christ.” (Acts 5:42) Preaching was not limited to an elite group.Historian Neander observed that “Celsus, the first writer against Christianity, jeer[ed] at the fact, that wool-workers, cobblers, leather dressers, the most illiterate and vulgar of mankind, were zealous preachers of the gospel.” In his book The Early Centuries of the Church, Jean Bernardi wrote: “[Christians] were to go out and speak very where and to everyone.On the highways and in the cities, on the public squares and in the homes. Welcome or unwelcome. . . . To the ends of
    the earth.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikare View Post
    Really~ who are we to judge our own brothers and sisters if they are truly christians or not. There is only one judge. In the end, all of us will be judge individually.
    Naa daghan ana. Kay kadaghanan sa mga so-called Christians today nga Nidawat ug nagbasa Daw ug Bibliya na Transformed into Hypocrites nga bisan sila wa kahibalo.

    Mao bitaw nangunay ug Naog sa Kristo sa kalibutan tungod sa pagka MAOT sa mga tawo sa una, tungod kay daghan nahimung Hypocrite. Sadly, ang nahitabo sa una nibalik nsad.

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