Are All “Christians” Christian?

[Crinkles11]

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James 1:26

If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

[heliopause]

amen to taht bro!

[noy]

bai crinks, what you posted earlier made my day..God bless you bro.

[heliopause]

bai crinks, what you posted earlier made my day..God bless you bro.

me too! bitaw nice kayo @crinks.

[SioDenz]

yes bro and we ourselves know also if we have this true relationship with God. Our daily devotions, prayers and living the christian life proves it.

I said we can Only CLAIM, Not JUDGE

[SioDenz]

James 1:26

If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

So kanang Kusog kaayu mu CONCLUDE nga TRUE Christian jud sila, Ma ingun natu nga Maigo ani nga Bersikolo?

[Eve's Apple Project]

^^mao jud bai, pwerteng igo-a jud.

[heliopause]

duha ka klase ang maigo ana bro:

1) nagclaim pero halfhearted
2) nagclaim pero opposite ang gikinabuhi

Kita mismo nakabalo sa atong relationship sa ginoo based sa atong experience.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Okay I understand if that’s your perspective. But you don’t only offend non-Catholics but the Roman Catholics as well.

Wrong ... why would someone be offended when this is the TRUTH ? If you say you got offended then indeed , it f
follows na GUILTY ang subject. But it does not follow na abi kay NEGOSYO na ang RELIHIYON , ma apektuhan ang pagtuo nimo because FAITH is subjective , it varies individually.

I would agree 100% there are some who abused Christianity. And you can observe it even if wala kay deeper knowledge about sa religion by simply contrasting on the lifestyle of these leaders nga imong giingon “gi-negosyo lang ang religion” against sa kahimtang sa ilang mga members. They’re driving on their mercedez benz/pajero while ilang karaang members naglakaw lang gihapon tabok sa pikas bungtod. Wala naman tay labot kung duna o walay sakyanan ang alagad sa ginoo no, mas gamit man gani nila. Importante lang, dili kwarta sa pobre nga member ang gikolekta para lang makasakyanan ang pari/pastor.

You are not gettign the drift . Like I said , ayaw i compare ang RELIGION sa CHURCH . These 2 are totally different entities.

Pero dili nato ma generalize coz there are also millions/billions of Christians who truly understand, converted and having a genuine relationship sa Ginoo. You cannot deny that.

Non Catholics converting to Catholics pasabot nimo ?

Says who? unsay basis nimo? Atheist acting the christian values...Mas malangit pa sila where in fact they don’t believe those things…..How come?>Try to ponder it daw.

Never answer me BIBLICALLY kay di jud na ma reconcile . Answer me logically nuon . When we say ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME , that is a statement implying that aside from faith , you will need a lot of GOOD WORKS. I know a lot of ATHEIST who acts more in a Christian manner compared to the HYPOCRITES all over the world.Does that mean they wont enter the gates of heaven because they dont believe in Heaven ? Sa ilahang kahimtang they dont care because it defeats the purpose of their respective beliefs but para nato mo tuo , who are we to judge them ? Your playing GOD now eh ?

No you’re wrong! Is it because that kana ang religion sa atong ancestors meaning we will cleave to that bisan nakadungog naka unsay insakto? How about if nataw ka sa prisohan, pabilin ka diha bisan wala kay labot tungod kay imong namat-an prisohan na? Humans are rational beings bro, mangita jud na kung unsay insakto ug kamatuoran. The only thing is either kulang ilang knowledge about sa kamatuoran or their pride paralyzes their common sense rejecting God.

Murag walay wrong gyud , wala lang ka nakasabot hehehe . Wether you like it or not , you are inclined to accept it because it is not your belief , you might struggle to convince me but you cant take it away from me. Sama nako ... nadawat na man nako na di ka katoliko so it only follows that there are lots of dogma's that you dont practice . And just because you dont observe it means it is wrong , nobody is wrong , inyo lnag gi label na wrong because you guys claimed to have found the truth when fact wala.

Let me ask you, kung ang imong nadungog sa mga leaders (pari, pastor, etc) dili na mao based on the scripture, dili nimo gamiton imong discretion pagweigh sa kamatuoran? If lahi imong pagsabot then I respect you for that kay kitang tanan is still learning. Mao sad ni akoa.

Sa mga Katoliko na approach , naa na siya basis . Dont invent something lage that was only interpreted in behalf lang sa unsay tan-aw ninyo mo benefit sa cause/campaign ninyo. Why would I say that ? I would rather believe in something that was passed from 1 generation to the next tha was carefully nurtured and taken cared off unlike sa belief na mugna lamang sa OPINION and thats just it . That is regardless if ang ga mugna ana has the greatest THINKING ABILITY who roamed the earth. mangutana ko nimo , kanus-a ra ga sugod ang BAPTIST na denomination since Baptist man ka ?

Do you mean if we accept that Jesus is the way, truth and the life, no other figure and we strongly believe in that, pasabot nimo personal opinion lang na sya? Of course sa bible lang kay kung imong belief pwed ra bisan unsa, then hanap ang imong relasyon kung kinsa jud imong Ginoo. Think deeper about it.

If you cant follow Jesus' footseps here on earth , still ang TRUTH nimo are only words . It will never be in deeds and you can reflect again on what I said about the ATHEIST. Now its your turn to dig the core deeper.

Sakto part coz faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Ikaw mismo dunay sakto nga hunahuna kung paminaw nimo giilad raka or dili na mao ang pagexplain sa pastor/pari. Mas nindot kung ikaw mismo maoy magkugi ug research kay hesitant manka sa imong church leaders.

Ok ... lets put it this way. I am hesitant to acknowledge the Holy See , should I use Manalo , Quiboloy ,
Soriano , Luther etc teachings as my reference ? You would not find the answer in that manner because the research you will be conducting has already the premonition of a bias approach kay ug di ni sila ANTI in nature na , they are AGAINST in nature na man daan . Mura bitaw ug panahon sa DICTATORSHIP ni Marcos during the Martial Law , mind you if you did not grow up during that time , its ok for you pero kung naka hibalo lang ka comparing all the govt leaders from Cory to Noy2 , maka ingon ka mas maayo pa martial Law na lang balik ug si Marcos gihapon ang presidente nato. That is what you call real TRUTH because you did not only hear from it but you lived it.

A true Christian knows what the Lord commands (to go and preach the gospel, share the truth) Dili kanang Sunday morning christians lang and living a life with no difference from unbelievers the rest of the week.

Wrong ka again . You will never be a true Christian lage kung ang pag acknowledge nimo sa Word of God kutob lang sa knowing and walay doing. Although you sounded generalizing the Roman Catholic's , still i will give you the benefit of the doubt since there is a partial truth in it . We are not saints , we are all sinners to include you and your church leader also.

Of course you can hardly find a RC preaching in the streets or sharing the gospel coz in reality, you have less knowledge about the truth of the gospel! Ask anyone here who is a catholic on how to know to get saved? That’s true. We are talking honest here. I am very frank and open bro.

When it si done in a FANATIC , FRUSTRATING and DESPERATE WAY , do you think you are doing it right ? Hehehehe .... dako dako jud na siya na problema nimo bai. Ngutana lang ko , ngano ang concern nimo/ninyo is HOW TO GET SAVED MAN ?

You are clearly joking when you say we have less knowledge sa gospel , that is because we dont read it word for word and take it literally ? Understand it by heart and you will be saved . Pwede pa na lol.

Who are those people you mean? So your belief is that non-catholic christians are not REAL CHRISTIANS? or only those scholars who can interpret the bible you accepted as true christians. Be specific daw.

It dont matter who . Even Mahatma Gandhi by heart is a REAL CHRISTIAN because you can clearly see his works and accomplishments here on earth of what is being asked in every Christian deeds. Even ang ang katoliko so you wont feel awkward , acts more like an Atheist sometime and the real Atheist are more Christianly in their words and in actions . Based ani na scenario , you are only clearly showing me that ikaw ang walay knowledge sa gospels.

You only remind me of the Pharisees .

They acknowledge but they did not believe! Simple as that. Head knowledge is different from believing bro.

That is only a paraphrase to your issues about mas malangit pa ang ATHEIST kaysa nimo na perspective.

So the claims of the Lord Jesus Christ is not important for you? That is why we are called christians coz we believe and follow Christ, not the pope, pastors or our own personal ideas. Jesus is supposedly to be in the center of our lives.

Wrong analogy na pod ka. Who said that POPE , PASTORS and our OWN PERSONAL IDEAS are the center of our lives ? mao an diha karon , you clearly say something that is baseless. If you read clearly my post and really analyze it , people outside ROMAN CATHOLICISM claims of something that does not really work . You never hear the RC say something about who will be saved , who will enter Heaven , who is to be judged , who are the REAL CHRISTIANS . Gets na nimo ?

Sorry if some of my replies is quite aggressive but there are truths in it. Let us be mature and positive lang.

I dont see anything aggressive about it . Imoha pod na and I cant take that away from you , I do respect your opinion but you can never shove something in my throat ilabi na ug BIBLICALLY SPEAKING na nature.

[Aphiemi]

I said we can Only CLAIM, Not JUDGE

we can judge using God's word as our criteria.

So kanang Kusog kaayu mu CONCLUDE nga TRUE Christian jud sila, Ma ingun natu nga Maigo ani nga Bersikolo?

no, kana nga verse ang igo ana katong mag sige claim nga Christian sila but wala sa buhat.