Are All “Christians” Christian?

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@springfield


If you mean the Lord Jesus Christ, for us Christians YES. If youre a non-christian then you can share sad sa imohang truth. From it, we can discuss.

Pwerting likoa na gyud nimo . The TRUTH I am talking about are the BIBLE VERSES that you guys use to EVANGELIZE . You have to establish first kinsa ni mga CHRISTIANS na gipasabot nimo.

[BigBadWolf]

To all Prots who say that Catholics do not read the Bible:

Your assertion only shows your ignorance. The Bible is being read three times at every Mass, every day. Although ang ordinary Catholic dili kagunit og Bible everyday, at least they get to listen to it. Sunday worship is mandatory ug mas maau pa gani everyday ka mo attend ug mass as long as you have the time.

[BigBadWolf]

Nope you are blind to what are happening in order to corrupt protestant churches today. Most of them are joining the Ecumenical movement of the RC. This means RC and corrupt Protestants are realizing something, that they have all the same traditions and doctrines after all.

Unity among Christians

Since the ecumenical movement was initiated by Rome at the Vatican II Council, Christianity is striving to bring unity among its denominations. Unfortunately, for this to happen, Bible-believing Christians are compromising on the very doctrines their denominations were built upon.

Protestants are questioning the validity of the separation between Catholicism and Protestantism. Rome's goals are being realized. Through the ideas of Catholic thinkers in society, Protestants are coming to believe that they are not different or special in any way, but that all religions are one under the spiritual leadership of the Pope. Protestants have lost their identity and the reason for their protest in the first place.

The Catholic Church has not made any concessions in its rites and traditions, but is instead drawing the Protestant Church into its ways. A clear example of this is the Catholic Church’s introduction of Sunday rather than the Saturday Sabbath.

Read about the Catholic and Protestant unity that is already in motion around the world:

Lutheran Church:
The Lutheran Church and Rome | Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification

American Evangelicals:
American Evangelicals | Reunion with Rome

South African Churches:
South African Churches | Reunion with Catholicism

I see it as a blessing to the church like what Jesus foretold. The Catholic church has always reached out to its separated brothers. If you will notice, those "churches" uniting with the RC stick to what is being taught in the Bible. They have mostly rejected liberalist ideas advocated by modern society. The Church has not made any concessions to heresy because it teaches what was taught by the apostles.

Recently, the Vatican was forced to open a prelature for disaffected Anglicans seeking communion with Rome. Entire parishes and dioceses in England, US, and Australia has been confirmed into the RC in 2011 alone. Although we are not uniform in practice (in fact, the Catholic Church has at least 20 rites consisting of mainly ancient churches, of which the Latin rite is the most common ) we believe in the same doctrine.


http://religion.lohudblogs.com/2011/...nes-still-not/

[SioDenz]

If so bai, how was it possible nga parehas man tag bible? So the rc followed the babtist? Or a better question is who compiled the bible we are using today? Coz sa akong nasabtan, who ever started it came in first then the protestants/protesters sprung out? I always thought that babtists are Evangelicals..i guess i am wrong?

What he meant is naay mga Nagtuo/nagsunod ni Kristo nga wala na under sa Roma. One example is sa Africa. Niabot man ug pang sangyaw si Jesus sa part sa Africa hasta iyang mga Tinun-an way before Roman Catholism was formed. So if we agree that being a Christian means "followers/believers of Christ", then those people in Africa who were evangelized by Jesus and the apostles Before the roman Catholicism are also Christians.

[SioDenz]

Well, I am a Christian and I believe GOD above all, even though He will give me a crappy life but anyways, I'm actually not a practicing Christian,

Ug sa Abogado pa ni, murag pang Lapida ra ang titolo kay wa man diay nag practice

[masterjanuarius]

What he meant is naay mga Nagtuo/nagsunod ni Kristo nga wala na under sa Roma. One example is sa Africa. Niabot man ug pang sangyaw si Jesus sa part sa Africa hasta iyang mga Tinun-an way before Roman Catholism was formed. So if we agree that being a Christian means "followers/believers of Christ", then those people in Africa who were evangelized by Jesus and the apostles Before the roman Catholicism are also Christians.

Bro, mura man sa Gospel of Luke, miingon nga si Hesus ug si Maria gidala ni Jose sa Egypt ..kay aron malayo sa pagpatay sa mga kabataan by the soldiers of Herod. Pero, wa man siguro verse sa Bible nga nag-ingon didto sa Africa si Jesus. Ang mga unang cristiano sa Black Africa, mao man ang mga Ethiopians ... unya it was believed that the ethiopian eunuch, nga gibunyagan ni Philip (Acts of the Apostles), mao man ang gadala sa christianismo didto ... and they are in union with the Pope. O giila nila ang Bishop sa Rome nga maoy spiritual leader nila.

[SioDenz]

Bro, mura man sa Gospel of Luke, miingon nga si Hesus ug si Maria gidala ni Jose sa Egypt ..kay aron malayo sa pagpatay sa mga kabataan by the soldiers of Herod. Pero, wa man siguro verse sa Bible nga nag-ingon didto sa Africa si Jesus. Ang mga unang cristiano sa Black Africa, mao man ang mga Ethiopians ... unya it was believed that the ethiopian eunuch, nga gibunyagan ni Philip (Acts of the Apostles), mao man ang gadala sa christianismo didto ... and they are in union with the Pope. O giila nila ang Bishop sa Rome nga maoy spiritual leader nila.

mag reserch pako ani

But based sa imung gisulti about sa Acts of the Apostle, meaning ang Roman Catholicism nga Religion na himu at the same time when the Book acts of the apostle was written? If you can give the exact verse much better.

But what i know is naay mga karaan nga Kristiano nga naa sa Ethiopia nga ma trace sa panahon pang Kristo. Pero need more research pa.

[BigBadWolf]

The Catholic Church is much more complex than being thought of. It is being composed of sui iuris churches and not just a single monolithic institution. Currently, there are 23 rites and most of these are ancient churches from the east and africa.

""As you can see, 22 of these 23 churches are Eastern churches; only the Latin church is Western. But the primary reason most people don’t know about all these Eastern churches is that the Latin Catholic church makes up 98% of all Catholics worldwide. So, if you meet a Catholic on the street, there is a very good chance that he is of the Latin church.""


Understanding the churches and rites of the Catholic Church « Divine Life – A Blog by Eric Sammons

Early African Church
Early African Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[heliopause]

@springfield

Frontline or business ? Bai ayaw tuyuka ang ulo sa isa ka tao na gamay ra pod ang nahibaw-an bahin ani. Again basta mag mention na pod ta ug TRUE CHRISTIANS , who are these people ? I am sure not the PROTESTANTS.

Do you mean business like money-making? Kung mao ni imong malink mosugot ka kung ato pud i-link ang catholicism sa politics? Bati kung mao na atong ma comment, diba?

I believe, the true Christians is the universal body of believers of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is comprised whether a Catholic, baptists, protestants, born again, etc.) as long as you believe Jesus Christ as your Saviour and you have this personal relationship with God in the Spirit.

I am a baptist and I believe in this adage that “NOT ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS ARE BAPTISTS, AND NOT ALL BAPTISTS ARE TRUE CHRISTIANS.” Same is true with the rest of any christian denominations. What matters most is our relationship with God coz that is what Christianity is all about. Jesus did not taught religion but His truth that humanity might be reconciled back to God. that is the purpose of His incarnation.

Kung ang gipangita nimo na kamatuoran GIPAKITA na sa imoha , that is only rightful to be enlightened unless lage you have a different agenda or goal. Sama sa issue sa PROTESTANTS sa RC's about the POPES , BLESSED VIRGIN MARY and the SAINTS , gi hatagan na bitaw mo ug valid explanations ana , ngano di man ninyo dawaton ? Am I beating the bush here talking about TRUE CHRISTIANS yet denies ACCEPTANCE and RESPECT ?

Kana kay wala ma accept, it only means that it is insufficient for me based on my understanding sa bible. To tell you honestly bro gamay ra akong nabaloan but Ill give you an analogy why we need to know the bible; When you say that what you believed about the (veneration) of the pope, virgin mary and the saints is in line with the truth, I do not agree with that coz I also view it as did not coincide with my view of truth. If you will force us to believe in your interpretation, what if we will ask you to believe also with our interpretation? so dili magdaug kay we have differences man in our ideas. So in order for us to really know the truth, we should seek guidance to something more authoritative antique referent, in which case the BIBLE coz it’s hard to posit something which you have no or lacking foundation.

We know the word respect bro as well as the word love and we lived by it. That’s why as mentioned before, sinabtanay lang gud. In speaking the truth there is always a counter perspective and we cannot change a man’s heart, only God. Important is we’re doing our part.

Wrong answer ka bai. Ayaw likoa since I am not talking about the BIBLE here , I am talking about CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION otherwise why would I still be seeing people doing INTERNET EVANGELIZATIONS ?

If you are a Roman Catholic bro, don’t you know that RC is technically considered also as a denomination coz its early stages came from the christians?

All the denominations will claim this TRUTH. The problem is , is it really the TRUTH ?

If we’re talking about the truth of Jesus then there should only be one truth. I don’t believe if Jesus claimed what he ought to be (saviour of mankind, way, truth, life) we can also apply it to Buddha, Krishna or Mohammed who never had that claim.

We are a thinking and moral being and more than that we were given freewill. It’s up to us how are we going to use it. Is it for God’s glory or for our own glory?

It’s not a coincidence that we’ve heard the truth of Jesus Christ. It is God’s will sa atong kinabuhi that we have the opportunity to know him freely, unlike other countries. And one thing, it is by His mercies that we are not consumed/finished nga naa pa ta chance makadawat sa iyaha and can serve freely while the opportunity is still open. I believe on this bro, time will come nga mabalik ang persecution sa mga Christians (beheading) in the last days as already prophesied in the book of revelation.

[heliopause]

What he meant is naay mga Nagtuo/nagsunod ni Kristo nga wala na under sa Roma. One example is sa Africa. Niabot man ug pang sangyaw si Jesus sa part sa Africa hasta iyang mga Tinun-an way before Roman Catholism was formed. So if we agree that being a Christian means "followers/believers of Christ", then those people in Africa who were evangelized by Jesus and the apostles Before the roman Catholicism are also Christians.

Nice bro. Not all early christians followed Constantine.