Are All “Christians” Christian?

[Eve's Apple Project]

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We are talking about Christianity and God in this Thread - So truth about HIM and His teachings and what should we do about it.

nice thread if wala lang juy targeton nga other religion. Basta focus lang sa storya about Ginoo nindot jud ni.

[noy]

ka klaru anang "indeed, I do not even judge myself. 4 My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent." - mu lusot pa jud. Ka klaru anang iyang gi ingun nga "It is the Lord who judges me."

Yeah you THINK You accepted Jesus but "It is the Lord who judges me/us" and according to verse "5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes." - ka klaru ana.

wala ko molusot bai i was just simply telling what i know and feel. i agree everything that's in the bible
because it served as a lamp unto my life's journey..Christ is the supreme judge.not me and most certainly not you
again, what i say may not be acceptable to you and other people.i say those words 'cause this is simply a discussion.
but you making these accusations about me not being a Christian because that's how you understood
my statements.then i certainly pray that you are not judging me 'cause you are not in the posistion.
if you think i am troubled.pray for me.i did not think that i accepted Jesus.
i know i've accepted Him.because everyday though my family,friends,and all creation God has been inviting me to trust Him but i kept ingoring Him.i know i accepted Jesus 'cause when i did.everything has changed.i can't blame you though if you think that way, you do not know me and most certainly you do not know what kind of life i had and lead..you have been posting verses in the bible that tells about God being the supreme judge then why are we even having this conversation? where one has to be proven wrong or right.we are Christians and that is enough for me.this kind of arguments are one of the reasons why there are a lot of people who would rather choose NOT to believe in God because of how we treat ourselves.no wonder why a lot of people hated us Christians.becasue we're so smart and intelligent, we know all things blah blah..and instead people would unserstand,people would instead feel left out and condemned,yeah they realize their sins and at the same time
looses the hope as well. instead they should be loved and feel the acceptance of Jesus through us.
Jesus knew Peter would deny Him but He never condemned Him. because Jesus Loved Peter.
you wanna know why Paul changed? because of Jesus' Love and acceptance.
clearly this is what we should practice 'cause even kita mga kristyano mag lalis pa sa mga ginagmay nga deprensiya...and now say we will preach the good news to the ends of the earth..
how can we even do that?if we ourselves are obviously divided..

If I speak in the tonguesof men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,but do not have love, I gain nothing.
1 Corinthians 1-3

[BigBadWolf]

Christian by inheritance, not necessarily by practice...like my bro for example.

Sakto jud ka sis.

[SioDenz]

nice thread if wala lang juy targeton nga other religion. Basta focus lang sa storya about Ginoo nindot jud ni.

Since lahi lahi tag religion ug doctrina di jud malikayan ang naay mu question. Now depende nsad na nimu unsaon nimu pagsabot ang pangutana. If naay mu question nya mag present sa ilang side, ok raman guro kay share share man kaha tah.

Di man sad pwedi if ang common ground ra atung istoryahan kay di malalis nga lain lain man jud tag interpretation, madugay ug sa madali mag abot jud na. Nya if ganahan ka masayud, mu question jud ka.

But i agree nga dapat ipaagi ug respito ang pagpangutana.

Like for example mangutana ko sa mga katoliko: Since nagbase man mug Holy Tradition ninyu, What if ang inyung holy tradition wala nahisulat sa bibliya or sukwahi sa nahisulat sa Bibliya - Asa may mas labaw nga sundon?

[BigBadWolf]

Catholics have the Magisterium which is the official teaching authority of the Church and headed by the Pope. Inflexible as it is, ug murag lisod jud i follow ang teachings sa Church but i know they are trying to teach Christianity that was believed by the early Christians.

In protestantism, wala sila official authority, and each person is regarded as a pope unto himself, kay maka buot buot cya ug interpret sa mga bible passages, depende sa iyang motibo. Most of the time, they can discard passages that are not in line with their own OPINION/motives. This is the reason why most of the 'churches' splintered.

Example: Martin Luther, the apostate Catholic wanted to do the extreme of what cherry picking prots usually do. He wanted to burn James' book in the bible because it refutes his teaching of sola fide. Luckily, God did not allow it and His will prevailed. However, they were still able to rip off 7 books in the bible. Also, we have Protestant prosperity teachers (uso ni sila sa US) who twist God's word in exchange of money.

Since we all claim to be guided by the Holy Spirit, isnt it ironic nga lahi lahi ta og interpretation sa Biblia?
I mean, not on the major points but also on the minor points as well

Isn't it too much pride to arrogate unto ourselves the interpretation of the Bible?

Just a bit of history: In ancient Rome, mailhan na Christian ang family because they allow ALL children born inside the household to live. Unlike pagans who excercise the rule of the paterfamilias wherein the fate of the child depends on the father. Once a child is born, he is put on the floor and once the father 'raise' him in his arms, he is allowed to live. If his father will ignore him he will be banished or fed to the dogs.

Therefore, mailhan ra ang atong pagka Kristiyano based on our actions.

[BigBadWolf]

Like for example mangutana ko sa mga katoliko: Since nagbase man mug Holy Tradition ninyu, What if ang inyung holy tradition wala nahisulat sa bibliya or sukwahi sa nahisulat sa Bibliya - Asa may mas labaw nga sundon?

FYI: the bible esp the new testament was written at least a hundred years after the establishment of the Christian church during the Pentecost. For the first hundred years, churches relied on word of mouth from the apostles. These word of mouth usually forms our Sacred Tradition. It was not until 383 AD that Catholics/Christians compiled the books with Sacred Tradition as the basis for the inclusion of such books. Therefore i can assure you that Catholic practices can be defenced by the bible, and that should form another thread.

[noy]

daghan bya nga tradition tuod wala sa bible but there must be an explanation why
gibuhat nang mga traditiona which ang mga priest or kadtong nagskwela ug theology of the RCC
ra jud mauy makahatag ug tubag.in the maintime,guess well just have to take it to faith guro.
and besides, who are we to question or label whose church is right or wrong?
why not practice whatever it is we practice in our own denomination
and be united in serving the Lord..
after all, the great commandment is to Love God above all things
and the 2nd commandment which is equally important to the 1st one
is to love thy neighbor as one's self..maypag mag focus na lang ta ani..
kay sure ko, murag wala pay maski usa nato nga naka perfect aning mga sugoa.

[SioDenz]

wala ko molusot bai i was just simply telling what i know and feel. i agree everything that's in the bible
because it served as a lamp unto my life's journey..Christ is the supreme judge.not me and most certainly not you
again, what i say may not be acceptable to you and other people.i say those words 'cause this is simply a discussion.
but you making these accusations about me not being a Christian because that's how you understood
my statements.

I Never said You are Not a true Christian tawn oi
Never in my post that i accuse You, can you point it out?
I said whats written in the Bible as what apostle Paul said. Nga sukwahi sa imung gisulti.
The main point is according to the scripture, ONLY God can JUDGE us and Not even ourselves.

i know i've accepted Him.because everyday though my family,friends,and all creation God has been inviting me to trust Him but i kept ingoring Him.i know i accepted Jesus 'cause when i did.everything has changed.

You can say whatever you can say about your belief but based sa gisulti ni Apostol Paul - Ang Ginoo mao ray dunay katungod mu Judge natu, bisag kita di pwedi. Nga di ta mag una una.

Question nko nimu, If you accepted Jesus in your Life - have Jesus Accepted Yours already? Did Jesus already confirm that your belief right Now is the Correct one? Did Jesus told you that the path you are taking right Now Leads to HIM?

Si apostle Paul man gani nga naka istorya ni Kristo personal wa man gani ni Judge sa iyang kaugalingon nga Tinuod iyang pagtuo. Wa man gani niya gibandilyo nga tinuod iyang Faith, Nagpaubos man gani sa pag ingun nga ang Ginoo ray mu judge nga if buot huna hunaon nagkuyog silang Kristo - KITA pa kaha?

no wonder why a lot of people hated us Christians.becasue we're so smart and intelligent, we know all things blah blah..and instead people would unserstand,people would instead feel left out and condemned,yeah they realize their sins and at the same time
looses the hope as well.

Other religions do Not Hate Christianity THEY HATED the Christians
-The reason is halos tanang Kristiano abi kay nakabsa ug Bibliya, nakasimba, nawalihan ug pila lang ka bersikolo - mag PINAGARPAR na
-Mag tuo na nga ilang Faith ray tinuod ang uban sayop
-Magtuo na kay na feel nila kunuhay Tinuod na ilang pagtuo, sila nay insakto nga sure nag sila gidawat sa Ginoo.
-And the Worst, kay tinuod na lagi ilang Faith - mu judge na sa ubang tawo kay dili same nila ug Faith

Isa ka Virtue sa tinuod nga Kristiano ang pagpaubos o Humilty sama ni Apostle Paul nga bisag nakahinabi/nakauban na jud siyang Kristo Personal nag paubos lang ghapon ug Mu ingun nga bisag siya mismo di pwedi mu Judge sa iyang kaugalingun kay ang GINOO ra juy naay katungod nga mu judge ug way lain.

Sadly, for the so-called Christians today - ang Vitue sa HUMILITY maoy unang mawala

Peace

[Fri13th]

wala ko molusot bai i was just simply telling what i know and feel. i agree everything that's in the bible
because it served as a lamp unto my life's journey..Christ is the supreme judge.not me and most certainly not you
again, what i say may not be acceptable to you and other people.i say those words 'cause this is simply a discussion.
but you making these accusations about me not being a Christian because that's how you understood
my statements.then i certainly pray that you are not judging me 'cause you are not in the posistion.
if you think i am troubled.pray for me.i did not think that i accepted Jesus.
i know i've accepted Him.because everyday though my family,friends,and all creation God has been inviting me to trust Him but i kept ingoring Him.i know i accepted Jesus 'cause when i did.everything has changed.i can't blame you though if you think that way, you do not know me and most certainly you do not know what kind of life i had and lead..you have been posting verses in the bible that tells about God being the supreme judge then why are we even having this conversation? where one has to be proven wrong or right.we are Christians and that is enough for me.this kind of arguments are one of the reasons why there are a lot of people who would rather choose NOT to believe in God because of how we treat ourselves.no wonder why a lot of people hated us Christians.becasue we're so smart and intelligent, we know all things blah blah..and instead people would unserstand,people would instead feel left out and condemned,yeah they realize their sins and at the same time
looses the hope as well. instead they should be loved and feel the acceptance of Jesus through us.
Jesus knew Peter would deny Him but He never condemned Him. because Jesus Loved Peter.
you wanna know why Paul changed? because of Jesus' Love and acceptance.
clearly this is what we should practice 'cause even kita mga kristyano mag lalis pa sa mga ginagmay nga deprensiya...and now say we will preach the good news to the ends of the earth..
how can we even do that?if we ourselves are obviously divided..

If I speak in the tonguesof men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,but do not have love, I gain nothing.
1 Corinthians 1-3

Bitaw brad Siodenz, murag bati mani imong tubag diri, mura man kag ni judge na hinuon. Ako protestante ko pero dili ko mo judge sa atong Roman Catholic brothers brad. I-check sad na imong tinubagan usahay kay bati jud tan-awon brad. peace to you.

[SioDenz]

daghan bya nga tradition tuod wala sa bible but there must be an explanation why
gibuhat nang mga traditiona which ang mga priest or kadtong nagskwela ug theology of the RCC
ra jud mauy makahatag ug tubag.in the maintime,guess well just have to take it to faith guro.
and besides, who are we to question or label whose church is right or wrong?
why not practice whatever it is we practice in our own denomination
and be united in serving the Lord..
after all, the great commandment is to Love God above all things
and the 2nd commandment which is equally important to the 1st one
is to love thy neighbor as one's self..maypag mag focus na lang ta ani..
kay sure ko, murag wala pay maski usa nato nga naka perfect aning mga sugoa.

so wa ka kahibalo asay palabihun if naa na nga sitwasyon? since imu man gi accept nga naay tradition nga wala sa bible?