Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla or Mitsubishi Lancer or Nissan Sentra

[shogunfreak]

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ako ek hatch sir kay taga manila naka palit , iya shipping nabayad kay 15 k... hehe ari cla namili sa cebu kay way agi bagyo ondoy baha and mas di au grabeh ka long distance byahe sa cebu . pero depende gihapon sa car. mas maayu ari nalang guro palit aa cebu hehe ..

sakto sad ka bro sa ana nga factor..wa ko kabantay ana dahh...ONDOy diay sa? by the way wa mn gud ko nsweto ug unsa to part sa manila naigo sa bagyo before...

cavite and pangasinan sir?naigo ba sa ONDOY?

by the way bro.. here the cars im drooling with....

[jonz]

Murag mas kusog man siguro stage 3 d15b kay has 128hp while an civic lxi has only 90 hp while a civic vti has 115hp.

I am refering to Both JDM D15B Vtec engine
the stage2 JDMD15B Vtec is around 130HP, ms kusog ang D15 stage2 ky 16valve all the way, and D15B Vtec Stage3 runs in 12valve in low RPM and will switch to 16valve in higher RPM, forget already at what rpm 12-16-Vtec activation.. I drive both before ms kusog ang stage2

[longthrow]

power is a factor but what really matters is power to weight ratio & of course, give credit to the driver nga kahibalo pag harness sa power.
based on all-stock, nindot ang handling sa civic as compared sa sentra s3/s4, ae101, mazda323 protege & lancer itlog/ pizza pie.

if you want mas elegant, ari sa mid-size category, like accord, galant, corona, camry, mazda626, bluebird altima.

depende unsa imo route, mostly highway ba or city traffic.
sa ani nga sedan gen(92-99), we have the civic eg, toyota corona st191 & galant vr4 v6
personally mao ni ako preferences mag travel :
civic eg- city traffic (double wish bone suspension)
corona- mixed route, way faster on a sprint than a civic eg w/ 1.6 zc engine
galant- excellent for cebu south road, the best handling(multi-link suspension) ani nga gen

maintenance wise, go for toyota.

[trax]

nice ni cya bro, nice rims too, hehehehe

[GALLAN]

Chasis codes: Year model:
Eg 91 - 95
Ek. 96 - 00
Es. 01 - 05
Fd. 06 - 11

These only pertain to civics... Esi is d hi end variant of the eg models, while lxi is lower end. As for the ek's, vti is the hi end one and lxi is the low end...

Civics are known to hav a pretty much higher 2nd hand value compared to its counterparts... That alone should tell u somethin... Jst stay away from surplus.... As for parts, prices are quite d same wid toyota n mitsu...
Persnally, if yur a family guy, go for d lxi models - theyre 1.5L - not too big, not to small...
If yur already havin dat itch to modify, go for vti variants, but its a 1.6L... Jst my 2 cents

Go Ings+1......!!!!!

[shogunfreak]

nice ni cya bro, nice rims too, hehehehe

lage bro. 15o ra ang unit..mada ug 140k...lau lng au manila...

[dhingarhdz]

naa ko 1997 ek 1.5 d15b hatchback sauna . gibaligya kay automatic transmission. then karon 1997 ek 1.5 lxi sedan na local unit manual tranny.
and now galibog ko unsa i baligya ang toyota vios 2006 1.3 E or ang 1997 honda civic 1.5 (layu jud ug gap ang year model)
for me mas ganahan ko mo drive sa civic kay abtik and mas powerful and sa fuel consumption,pareho raman sa vios. ,maybe bug-at ako ti-il sa vios..
ganahan sad ko sa interior sa civic compared to vios. kay dili plastic feel ang dashboard, ganahan sad ko sa gauges sa stock civic.

so honda civic siguro ko if ako si TS

bitaw TS follow ur heart ug asa imo ganahan jud..

Same with me, had a 96-98 mdl Honda Civic EK3 JDM 1.5L D15B 3 Stage Vtec, ang advantages nya, pwede siya ma tawag ug best of both worlds kay naa siyay modes to choose from (Dapit sa iyang Cambyu sa Multimatic naay makita nmo na dial kung gusto nmo siya e Econo, Drive or Sport mode), Econo pinaka tipid so far since its using only 12 valves city driving around 1:10-1:12 depende sa pag tunob nmo sa gasolinador, in Sport mode sad di sad ka ma bitin since its using 16 valves with wild cams during the vtec engagement at 6k RPM and light weight since it's a 2 door hatch back.

Now I've changed into still a Honda Civic pero 99-00 mdl SiR with a 1.8L engine (ang kabaw sa honda engines kabaw namu unsa na xa na makina) nindot sya kusug tanan hehehe, ride is good (depende if stock suspensions and depende pud sa imong wheels gi taud), and since manual siya ma control pud nmo ang consumption (high gears lang pirmi then upto 2k RPM lang) tried city driving for 1 week straight nag full tank ko pag Sunday then city driving everyday (Home-->Work-->Laag-->Home), after 1 week half tank ra ang nakuha nya, so naka ingon ko na tipid jud xa kung tipid pud imong driving.

Well mao na akong experience with a Honda Civic hope it helps the TS decide what to buy, but akong advice lang "Patience is a virtue" naka suway nako ana, naay nagbaligya na mas nindot na car ni ingon nlng kog "Bakit Ngayun ka Lang" hehehe!

[ZikE]

ako nabantayan 12valve mode on a particular rpm. then naa rpm na mag 16valve mode morag if imo i duot mo 16valve pero if gaan ti-il 12valve..correct me if im wrong..ako ra ni nabantayan, 500 a week to ako mandaue to banilad vice versa og gamay laag2x

asa kaha ne mang chicks ang lawas kaha?

[dhingarhdz]

ako nabantayan 12valve mode on a particular rpm. then naa rpm na mag 16valve mode morag if imo i duot mo 16valve pero if gaan ti-il 12valve..correct me if im wrong..ako ra ni nabantayan, 500 a week to ako mandaue to banilad vice versa og gamay laag2x

Econo mode = 12 valve mode plus revs upto 2-3k rpm (normal driving condition), diha pud xa ang gi ingon nila na "Burn mode"
Drive mode = 16 valve with out wildcam revs the 5k
Sport mode = 16 valve , wild cam and vtec engagement at 6k RPM.

The Amazing 3-stage VTEC EK3
For the EK-generation Civics, development on the D15B engine finally culminated in the now famous 3-stage VTEC D15B. This engine is used on the current generation EK3 VTi and Ferio Vi. 3-Stage VTEC D15B is a wonder engine in that Honda took the technologies of the VTEC-E and VTEC-D15B engines and merged them into one single engine. This implementation, already covered elsewhere in TOVA, allowed Honda to give us an engine that is both economical and powerful. So, who says we can't have our cake and eat it too ?

EK3s with manual transmission have final drives of 4.058 with 1st & 2nd gear ratios of 3.250 and 1.782 respectively. Manual Ek3s have been clocked to do the standing 100kmh dash in low-9s, faster in fact than an automatic transmission EG9 or EK4 B16A Civic.

The automatic EK3 is also the model to benefit from Honda's next greatest invention after VTEC; the new wonder-CVT MULTIMATIC (MMT) transmission. MMT's most powerful strength is the flexibility of a CVT gearbox coupled with the ability to work the high 130ps power of the 3-stage VTEC D15B engine. On smaller displacement engines below 2.0l, the use of an automatic transmission with its high power loss and slippage often meant a big compromise in performance. But the Multimatic transmission changed all that. It uses a continous range of gear ratios from 2.466 to 0.449 with a final drive of 5.809. This allows MMT to use the highest possible gear ratio to suit the current engine rpm which in turn guarantees the best acceleration at all time giving the MMT EK3 an extremely preppy performance. The MMT EK3 easily surprises unsuspecting passengers with its very good torque at all sensible speeds, often leading them to think the engine is larger in capacity - 1.8l or even 2.0l !




The 3-stage VTEC D15B represents the pinnacle of development on the D15B engine. From the same configuration as the previous generation VTEC D15B; 1493cc SOHC PGM-Fi but now with the 3-stage VTEC system; it generates the same 130ps at a higher 7000rpm with a max torque of 14.2kgm at 5300rpm. The amazing thing is that now it also offers an incredible 30km/l mileage ! In the flesh, the 3-stage VTEC D15B is a sleeper. The valve cover does not have any 'VTEC' wording and only the sharp eyed will recognize the engine as VTEC by noting the VTEC switches (yes, two of them) located on top of the intake runners and the high 7200rpm red-line of the tach. The 3-stage VTEC engine runs in 12-valve mode up to around 3000rpm. In this range, running in ideal conditions will activate the 'lean-burn' mode, where air-fuel ratios as high as 20:1 can be used to take advantage of the intake swirl induced by the 12-valve operation. This lean-burn mode is what makes the 30km/l mileage (for constant 60kmh speed) possible. A green 'ECONO' LED lights up on the dash when lean-burn mode is engaged.

From around 3000rpm up to about 6000rpm, the first VTEC actuator switch engages and the previously inactive intake valve now goes into operation. The engine now runs in 16-valve mode behaves just like any of Honda's highly spec'ed 16valve PGM-Fi engines. After 6000rpm the second VTEC actuator switch engages the wild cam/rocker arm pair for the intake valves. This switches the engine into the wild-cam mode where it goes bonkers delivering 130ps at 7000rpm. With the proper driving style, one can actually enjoy mileage as high as 16 or 18km/l in town driving while at the same time frequently indulging in VTEC-inspired sprints to overtake slower vehicles.

Used with the Multimatic transmission, the EK3 can frequently shock vehicles with larger capacity engines, literally leaving the arrogant tail-gaters for dead when accelerating from medium speeds. When WOT is engaged, engine revs immediately shoots up, with Multimatic maintaining the appropriate gear ratio to keep the car at about the same speed. When engine revs finally peaks at 7200rpm, Multimatic would have engaged the highest possible gear ratio for the speed the car is travelling at. 7200rpm is now maintained as the car picks up speed and it is the gear ratio which will be continously varied according to the car's speed. Thus Multimatic guarantees the highest possible acceleration from any suitable starting speed (typically from 50kmh onwards) and maintains this condition right up to the car's artificial, soft speed limiter at around 180kph.

Forward to the next generation
The EK3 with the 3-stage VTEC D15B and either a manual or the Multimatic transmission remains at the pinacle of today's medium sized executive sedan. Building on the strength of the earlier EG4/EG8, it really do offer the previously impossible goal of fine fuel economy with good power and preppy performance especially with the Multimatic transmission. Ride quality and handling are also a order of magnitude better with safety and interior room being excellent. Given what Honda has achieved with the EK3, the next incarnation of this top-level 'executive' Civic sedan is going to be a very interesting proposition indeed.

@bold mao ni akong na miss sa akong EK3 sauna.

[GALLAN]

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Usa sad ka Honda Lover ayyyy....ahehehehehe...