MERGED: RP-China Territorial Dispute, Related Events and Updates

[messerchtmitt]

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Chinese are strengthening their military system. They were also engaged in continuous information gathering, spying and surveillance on other countries. They have the power to control or take down systems and that's a fact. HOW ABOUT US? WHAT DO WE DO?

Sorry brother I cannot tell you that. Istorya.net have been encroach by the Chinese spy.

During the Balkan wars, US F-117A Stealth Fighter which is known that no radars can detect but one of it was shot downed by an AA gun. An Anti-Aircraft Gun is being fired manually without the use of hi-tech devices to pin point target. I mean technology are the product of human being which is subjective, so there's no such thing a 100% complete system. There should be a weak point or counter on every technology being made.

[ed168III]

pildi na ang china, ni back out na, cold war pa gani, pildi na hahahahahahahahaha, sila pay nagbuhat sa sun tzu art of war, na unay hinuon

[Crinkles11]

Sorry brother I cannot tell you that. Istorya.net have been encroach by the Chinese spy.

During the Balkan wars, US F-117A Stealth Fighter which is known that no radars can detect but one of it was shot downed by an AA gun. An Anti-Aircraft Gun is being fired manually without the use of hi-tech devices to pin point target. I mean technology are the product of human being which is subjective, so there's no such thing a 100% complete system. There should be a weak point or counter on every technology being made.

I agree bro...Unya?...

[shal213]

People may continue to discuss the logic of who really owns Panatag Shoals. We may even be inclined to say that let's go to war or to defend our country at all costs. But one thing is for sure, if war really breaks out. The only losers would be the Philippines. We will be the battle site and either we succumb to China or we go back to being US lapdog. Is our status quo really worth trading for? For those who are saying that we should go to war or we should defend Panatag Schoal at all cost, are you willing to trade all that you have; your family and friends, wealth, and the stability of peace for a rock that you may never even stand on? I am no coward but to sacrifice everything that I have and love is out of the question. May it be for a rock or may it be for other things. I will fight but only for my freedom.

[messerchtmitt]

OyYY bro kalma lang dha oi. Wala man ko nagbinuang nimo bro, just a friendly advice nga dili lang ta palabi ug salig anang libro kay magfantasy na noon ta.

Naa lang ko pangutana ninyo duha ni Walker bro, Kung kapitan ka sa barku bro den nagsakay imong pamilya unya nalunod, Unsa imong unang buhaton?

My preference is all about military books on technology, handbooks, history related to military warfare and etc, and this is not to be considered as "FANTASY". There are previous histories of wars that can be applied in the modern warfare tactics. Though it's evolving. I don't think its FANTASY nor fantasizing it.

Your question is trying to test us whether to be considered as "bookish" or more on theory or on actual application. I tell you, being a Captain of the ship, I will first save the passengers including my family and make sure everybody is secured before going out of the ship. An officer should be the last one to get out.

The way you asked question sounds to be a Chinese decent or Made in China.

[street_of_no_return]

BTW china is busy arguing with Vietnamese because of their new law on sea. Vietnam claim Spratly and other island near Spratly as their territory and ready for any battle for that damn Island. wew. Maybe Vietnamn can do some damage before Phil-China war occur.

[shal213]

BTW china is busy arguing with Vietnamese because of their new law on sea. Vietnam claim Spratly and other island near Spratly as their territory and ready for any battle for that damn Island. wew. Maybe Vietnamn can do some damage before Phil-China war occur.

If ever the Vietnam-Chinese war does occur, then most definitely all of the ASEAN nations shall be included in this war. Just like how the Japanese invaded all of the East Asian Countries, China would most likely invade all ASEAN countries to settle all disputes. So a Viet-Chino war is equivalent to a PH-China war.

[street_of_no_return]

People may continue to discuss the logic of who really owns Panatag Shoals. We may even be inclined to say that let's go to war or to defend our country at all costs. But one thing is for sure, if war really breaks out. The only losers would be the Philippines. We will be the battle site and either we succumb to China or we go back to being US lapdog. Is our status quo really worth trading for? For those who are saying that we should go to war or we should defend Panatag Schoal at all cost, are you willing to trade all that you have; your family and friends, wealth, and the stability of peace for a rock that you may never even stand on? I am no coward but to sacrifice everything that I have and love is out of the question. May it be for a rock or may it be for other things. I will fight but only for my freedom.

The Chinese people are doing it piece by piece. If they get that damn rock your talking about then for sure they will always ask for more, or invade more islands that we have until they will arrive at your door step and get everything you own right now. So atlest, better act before the problem become bigger and bigger. get the point?

those bastard chinese wont stop until they get what they want. No one really know on how far or how many island they want.

[shal213]

The Chinese people are doing it piece2x. If they get that damn rock your talking about then for sure they will always ask for more, or invade more islands that we have until they will arrive at your door step and steel everything you owe right now. So lest better act before the problem become bigger and bigger. get the point?

those bastard chinese wont stop until they get what they want. No one really know on how far or how many island they want.

Now, that is where you are wrong. They have staked their claims and no where does it say that they want the Philippines. Their claims are based on historical documents in which most of the unoccupied islands are part of their sovereignty. The fact of the matter is that these "islands" that China is laying claim to has a huge potential for oil thus they want it that bad. That's the problem, its not about invasion or wanting to expand territory. But the more we aggravate the issue, then the possibility of intent changes drastically. We know what they want, and we know that "us" (middle class going down to lower class) citizens can never fully enjoy the oil that these islands contain. Why should I fight so that a few 10% can be richer? This issue has never been about sovereignty but is about the potential millions of dollars that can be earned and how the US can gain from this hidden wealth. I wouldn't want Iraq to happen in my backyard, do you?

[shal213]

Sorry to say, the question is out of stupidity. There are laws which China knows it, I'm referring to UNCLOS. That Panatag Shoals is clearly within our territory then it should be ours.

It is not about "Kinsa ang nakaunsa sa ScarShoal?". Can you elaborate your question. I'm trying to comprehend this stupid question.

Bro, mu.batbat lang ko gamay ha.. ang UNCLOS is not definite. International Law does not bind any country to follow it, it is just an agreement that can be broken in so many ways. Many international law critics argue the fact why common law(local law) supersedes IL. It is not a stupid question. It is actually an excellent question that can be argued both logically and intellectually.

Mao ra na ako.a bro.