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  1. #801

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    Quote Originally Posted by genesis11 View Post
    It's called The Holy Scripture bro. Not Sacred Traditions. Playing God diay ko? hehehe
    Only God has the Power and Authority to Judge a person if he is worthy or Not. The law in the Bible is for US to follow Not for US to use to Judge other People.

    if you are well Versed enough, hatagi ko verse from the Bible that God gave us the Authority to Judge or Authority to say who will be saved or Not? I mean YOU ha.

  2. #802

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    theyre only looking for an escape goat
    Fact: The word Scape Goat originally came from the bible.

    But the goat chosen by lot as the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the LORD to be used for making atonement by sending it into the desert as a scapegoat. - Leviticus 16:26

    These were performed be the Jews as a representation of the coming Savior/Scapegoat.

    Only Jesus Christ is our Scapegoat bro.

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by genesis11 View Post
    Fact: The word Scape Goat originally came from the bible.

    But the goat chosen by lot as the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the LORD to be used for making atonement by sending it into the desert as a scapegoat. - Leviticus 16:26

    These were performed be the Jews as a representation of the coming Savior/Scapegoat.

    Only Jesus Christ is our Scapegoat bro.
    well sir drop google, how else would you call it? . your not getting my point are you?well,let me get it staight and cut the dramas...

    " if i have done wrong to someone, and i know i have hurt that person, i will take full responsibility of my actions instead of blaming other people just cause i refused to own up or too proud to own up. i dont need anyone to take the blame for me, im not the sort of person whose "blame everybody but yourself"if your that sort of person, you will never get anywhere in this life. your stuck because you'll never know what right from wrong if rely your escape goat to take it all.
    Last edited by nitwit; 06-18-2012 at 02:50 PM.

  4. #804

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Only God has the Power and Authority to Judge a person if he is worthy or Not. The law in the Bible is for US to follow Not for US to use to Judge other People.

    if you are well Versed enough, hatagi ko verse from the Bible that God gave us the Authority to Judge or Authority to say who will be saved or Not? I mean YOU ha.
    Pangutan-on tika bro? Is their not some sort of judgmental thinking in this verse?

    Matthew 7:16-20

    King James Version (KJV)

    16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

    18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

    19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

    20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


    Can Hitler Bear Good Fruit?

  5. #805

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    well sir drop google, how else would you call it?
    Ngano masuko man ka mag Google?

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  6. #806

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    Quote Originally Posted by genesis11 View Post
    Pangutan-on tika bro? Is their not some sort of judgmental thinking in this verse?

    Matthew 7:16-20

    King James Version (KJV)

    16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

    18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

    19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

    20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


    Can Hitler Bear Good Fruit?

    Pangutan on taka ug simple logic, Kinsay nagsulti ana nga verse? para kinsa na nga verse? ug asa dha ang nag indicate nga ikaw, which dili ang original nga nag Sulti ana dunay katungod nga gamiton na nimu nga Verse to Judge other People?

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by genesis11 View Post
    ngano masuko man ka mag google?

    Who is jesus christ god?

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    omg . AMEN
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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Pangutan on taka ug simple logic, Kinsay nagsulti ana nga verse? para kinsa na nga verse? ug asa dha ang nag indicate nga ikaw, which dili ang original nga nag Sulti ana dunay katungod nga gamiton na nimu nga Verse to Judge other People?
    Kanang nag apil ug service sa Satanic Mass bro? Di gyapon ka mo judge ana? Naa ra nimo gud.

    Of course daghan mga naa dira masave pa kung mo balik gyd tinod-anay, pero if mag padayon sila dira hangtod mamatay, di gyapon ka mo judge?

    Mao bitaw ang message diri is Repent and Believe kay naa pay chance tanan taw nga Buhi.. saon pud ka..

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    omg
    haha, abi gani nakog sa matrix...

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    haha, abi gani nakog sa matrix...
    ug wala pay google ambot ug unsay reasoning kaha ani

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