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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?


    Quote Originally Posted by netcommando View Post
    i will be saved by Grace, not Faith cuz i no longer have one.
    believing that grace can save you bro is faith already..: )

  2. #692

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    Quote Originally Posted by wormwoods View Post
    hahahah! thats right bro.

    Parehas ra gud anang maminaw ka ug music, mag headphone nya magkango2 kay feel kayo nimo ang kanindot sa beat. But to the people outside nga nagtan-aw nimo makaingon jud nga "naa tay gamay" kay sila mismo wala man makadungog/makafeel.
    mao ayaw na pag headphone, pag loudspeaker! hehe...para jam tanan..hehehe

  3. #693

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    how about Good Work without Faith?
    Good works minus faith is still good works.. That's the difference..

  4. #694

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    Quote Originally Posted by wormwoods View Post
    @klayton

    gidumtan na siya sa uban nga naa sa power sa government brod maong gipangitaan nalang ug bisan unsa nga accusation. Just like Manny Pacquaio ba nga karon nagtinuod na sa iyang belief as a Christian, gipangitaan sad ug sayop about tax.
    Mao ni nakalisod ug nakafaetz when you encounter a religious fundie and at the same time an avid conspiracy buff.. People like you are so easy to speculate on just about anything and treat it as the truth unconsciously at the same time. Get a life brader..

  5. #695

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    Guys, i haven't read all the discussions under this thread.

    I know a lot of different ideas and thoughts here. But, our opinion and ideas must be filtered it first from the Word of God which is the basis of our faith. So, regarding this topic here's what I can share from the Word of God.

    The question of faith alone or faith plus works is made difficult by some hard-to-reconcile Bible passages. Compare Romans 3:28 5:1 and Galatians 3:24 with James 2:24. Some see a difference between Paul (salvation is by faith alone) and James (salvation is by faith plus works). Paul dogmatically says that justification is by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), while James appears to be saying that justification is by faith plus works. This apparent problem is answered by examining what exactly James is talking about. James is refuting the belief that a person can have faith without producing any good works (James 2:17-1. James is emphasizing the point that genuine faith in Christ will produce a changed life and good works (James 2:20-26). James is not saying that justification is by faith plus works, but rather that a person who is truly justified by faith will have good works in his/her life. If a person claims to be a believer, but has no good works in his/her life, then he/she likely does not have genuine faith in Christ (James 2:14, 17, 20, 26).

    Paul says the same thing in his writings. The good fruit believers should have in their lives is listed in Galatians 5:22-23. Immediately after telling us that we are saved by faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8-9), Paul informs us that we were created to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Paul expects just as much of a changed life as James does: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come” (2 Corinthians 5:17). James and Paul do not disagree in their teaching regarding salvation. They approach the same subject from different perspectives. Paul simply emphasized that justification is by faith alone while James put emphasis on the fact that genuine faith in Christ produces good works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    ug mao nay usa ka rason nganu magcge ta ug ingun nga mao nay truth..hehehe...kay nakasulay man jud ta..hehehe..
    murag siomai sa tisa. kay nakatilaw man ka, muingun jud ka nga lami and that's the truth..haha..
    Even if You think that you are correct, It doesnt Mean nga sakto na jud ka. Kay di man kita maoy mu judge ug sakto nata, ang Ginoo man.

  7. #697

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Faith and actions!

  8. #698

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    faith and actions and believe

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    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    To work hard to survive, striving to practice good deeds and contributing to the society is an act of worship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    To work hard to survive, striving to practice good deeds and contributing to the society is an act of worship.
    For Muslims, unsay meaning anang Good works. Kay naay uban Christians diri na mu ingun kanang pag ask Forgiveness or kana pag accept ni Kristo, good works nah na. unsa pud kaha interpretation sa Islam ana?

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