There is no such thing as HEAVEN.

[rcruman]

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There are spiritual israelites and physical israelites.

bible that release the african slaves, filipino slaves, or aborigne slaves?
The only slaves in the time of moses and the only people that honor God before was israelites (physical).
But today all these african, filipino and aborigen are not slaves anymore because Christ preached the Gospel.
If we humans today will submit ourselves to God then we will be saved from sins and have a chance to have eternal life.

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

HAHAHAHA....

physical and spiritual israelites? The reason why there was chronological accounts of their struggle because they were treated unfairly. The Bible was for the israeli slaves not for you other people... it only came into other country because crusaders brought them to their country... what if no one had ever gone to middle east / israel, there was a big picture why the slaves were released because willing to fight... slaves will not fight as long as no leaders to start with. Mao nga ang Bible talked about being released by slavery, their suffering and struggle.

The only slaves in the time of moses and the only people that honor God before was israelites (physical).
But today all these african, filipino and aborigen are not slaves anymore because Christ preached the Gospel.
If we humans today will submit ourselves to God then we will be saved from sins and have a chance to have eternal life.
We're not israelites brod, we are different from them... let me ask you this, who started christianity in ASIA? Makasulti lang ka ang Ginoo but in the sense, it was the foreigners who started all these. You come to conclusion nga all these are works of God... and yet, timeless people were dead because of their faith. Their faith were twisted and let the beliefs of this foreigners be followed or else... bitay ang resulta.

[bitiks]

havent heard ani da...

but i think its up to us....

wla jud tay mabuhat og naa ba o wla....

mayb its better if we make our life now here on earth worthwhile.....d ba its better to do good things than bad...

[rcruman]

but i think its up to us....
wla jud tay mabuhat og naa ba o wla....
mayb its better if we make our life now here on earth worthwhile.....d ba its better to do good things than bad...

There are things that seems good to us because it is beneficiary to us.
But the question is, thus our good acceptable to God?
The more we believed that there is Heaven the more we do Good that is instructed by God.

To believe that there's no Heaven and Hell these people are dangerous, because they don't have to think others but only theirselves just to survive.
Criminals and Corrupt people and officials don't believed on Heaven and Hell because if so they will refrain doing it.
They want to enjoy it with their flesh.
Our life span here can't be compared to eternal life or eternal damnation to come.
If we enjoy it here (crime, corruption) eternal damnation will be experienced.

It won't be surprise for those people who don't believed in Heaven and Hell.
They can't even follow Man's law how come God's Law?

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

Point not taken. Do you think that with your own faith now, would give you100% assurance that you go to heaven? The bible says, you do this and you do that.. or else you go to eternal damnation. My very first question on this thread haven't been responded because... NO ONE IN THIS EARTH THAT DIED EVER CAME BACK (GOOD OR BAD) THAT SAID, THEY SAW HEAVEN OR HELL. The bible suggested there is such areas... but where? where is the factual basis that the heavens are above or hell is below... if God said His looking at us in the heavens, where exactly is that?

Man's law is always changeable so as God's law. Why there is Old Testament and New Testament... amendments had been said... it was changed ad it was also written by man himself.

[rcruman]

Point not taken. Do you think that with your own faith now, would give you100% assurance that you go to heaven? The bible says, you do this and you do that.. or else you go to eternal damnation. My very first question on this thread haven't been responded because... NO ONE IN THIS EARTH THAT DIED EVER CAME BACK (GOOD OR BAD) THAT SAID, THEY SAW HEAVEN OR HELL. The bible suggested there is such areas... but where? where is the factual basis that the heavens are above or hell is below... if God said His looking at us in the heavens, where exactly is that?

Yes because its been written and my basis are the words of God.
That's his promise, to stay in his words and we will be saved.
How come you will believe if someone will came back from heaven or hell that no one has ascended to heaven yet? your argument in this matter is weak. Christ has preached already and the apostles yet you didn't believed how come another man that came back.

Man's law is always changeable so as God's law. Why there is Old Testament and New Testament... amendments had been said... it was changed ad it was also written by man himself.
It was changed because the transgression of man increased and the evil in their heart increased.

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

Yes because its been written and my basis are the words of God.
That's his promise, to stay in his words and we will be saved.
How come you will believe if someone will came back from heaven or hell that no one has ascended to heaven yet? your argument in this matter is weak. Christ has preached already and the apostles yet you didn't believed how come another man that came back.

Your argument brod is weakest than mine if that's what you saw it. Read carefully on the words you wrote... all the verses you've written (more like cut and paste) superceded the whole idea of your "belief". How many countless arguments you said that "it is written in the bible" where your lines here doesn't make sense? "...how come another man that came back." Make sense brod, this doesn't even logical. If I put it this way, you admit that the bible does not give any promises that you go to heaven or hell? Because in your statement seemed so sure that with reading the bible and your faith you go to heaven and yet you don't even know. What kind of understanding is that?

[Sinyalan]

Man's law is always changeable so as God's law. Why there is Old Testament and New Testament... amendments had been said... it was changed ad it was also written by man himself.
It was changed because the transgression of man increased and the evil in their heart increased.

And you thought that God don't change... hmmm... keep on reading your bible brod because you just flip-flop yourself... you're reading but there's no understanding...

[rcruman]

And you thought that God don't change... hmmm... keep on reading your bible brod because you just flip-flop yourself... you're reading but there's no understanding...

Sounds strange, diba dili ka tuo bible so how come you concluded that i don't understand.
Thus it means that you've understand the bible then doubted?

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

HUH? Did I say I don't believe the Bible? I believe the bible HAD great teachings but I am not 100% that I will agree on the bible. That's what I said... you don't read my post brod? or you just too eager to see few words from my posts and then go to your website and look for the cue word or words and search the verses and then copy and paste. Because that's all I see... I am reading the verses but not the person who cut/paste the verses. Oh wait, were you really typing that verses on your own?