Muslims Slaughter Convert to Christianity in Tunisia

[JcBoY]

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Wide na kaayo ang scope if religion atong estoryahan regarding this topic.

What is see here is pure murder and disrespect of human life and personal beliefs. People like these should be dealt with accordingly.

In this example, the culprits are Muslim Extremists, so we should not directly vent our anger towards the peace loving muslim civilians.

But I just hope, whenever Muslim Extremists are caught and given justice, muslim civilians will not support them and treat them as heroes and modern-day saints. Though their actions are inhuman and not widely accepted, in the hearts of muslim civilians, these criminals are still their muslim brothers and sisters. Unlike us Christians, murderers and criminals are still abomination, and we don't give a rat's-ass care even if they are our "Christian" brothers.

We condemn any atrocities perpetrated against any peace loving people around the world whether they are Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and even atheists. No religion who will encourage and sanction its adherents to go and indiscriminately kill peace loving people, it just so happen that whatever religion you belong there will always an extemists in their ranks and unfortunately Islam is not exempted. But we will not deny that most of the atrocities happened in the global arena, Muslims are the most affected like what happen now in Syria, there is a worldwide sabotage happened right now in Syria with mercenaries pouring in to induce chaos in order to invoke and justify invasion. And who are the most affected, the Muslims themselves and who are these mercenaries, are they all Muslims? No!

And by watching the video which the TS posted, we are quick to condemn that Islam and the Muslims are savage and barbaric? What if it was done just to create chaos and malign Islam, come to think of it! It is no longer new if we have to observe and study how the unbelievers manipulate the diversity of mankind to exploit and manipulate the people to satisfy their greed.

AGAIN if you have observed the atrocities around the world right now you will find that most of civilians casualties are Muslims. Look at the indiscriminate bombings and killings in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Bosnia, Albania, Bahrain, Saudi, Palestine, Chechnya and now Syria.

To all Christian zealots who are actively campaigning their cause to advance their misguided thoughts, if you believed you are a good Christian but capitalizing your prozelytization on the unverified atrocities of the so-called Muslim Extremists without looking at your own share of Christians extremists who are wreaking havoc in the Muslim lands. Then you are no different at these proponents of religious extremism, you have no morality to tell the world of the goodness you have.

[wormwoods]

@jcboy
gisakyan lang ni sa mga secret societies to create a bad image sa muslim world and more importantly, to advance their NEW WORLD ORDER agenda. I dont know if youre familiar with these. I heard before kang Adnan Okthar (i forgot the spelling) nga against sad siya ani. Dili lang Islam ang victim ani kundi all religions coz their goal is to abolish all established religions in the world.

WW3 - More About Albert Pike and Three World Wars

[ketllac]

OT: balihon nato , unsa man sad inyo reaction anang Christian terrorism? wala ba diay ni sa mga Christians?

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[wormwoods]

@ket
i dont believe nga naa sa Christianity ang terrorism. Kung ang usa ka taw magbuhat ug butang which is against sa iyang giclaim nga belief then kanang tawhana ang dunay diperensya, dili na nimo mablame sa Belief itself. Importante nga makasabot ta unsa ang mga teachings sa tinuoray nga Christianity.

In fact, ang mga adherents man gani sa Christianity were mostly martyred.

[ketllac]

@wormwoods

Importante nga makasabot ta unsa ang mga teachings sa tinuoray nga Christianity.

almost tanan nga mga christian terrorists kay ni claim nga nakasabot sa mga teachings sa Christianity, unsaon man na nimo? kinsay mo decide sa tinuod nga nakasabot ikaw?

[wormwoods]

@wormwoods
almost tanan nga mga christian terrorists kay ni claim nga nakasabot sa mga teachings sa Christianity, unsaon man na nimo? kinsay mo decide sa tinuod nga nakasabot ikaw?

pwede i quote usa diri ang teachings nga ilang giclaim, ug i reveal sad kung kaning imong gitawag nga mga terrorists tinuod ba jud ni sila nga mga christians before ko mo tubag?

[Kenshiro]

Pagka-SIMANG ba nimo ug panabot do! Asa man tawon nag-agi sa pag-tubag anang akong post?

Ug ayaw ipamugos nang imong mathematical illustration sa imong trinity kay simple ra ang solution ana.

If there is ONLY ONE GOD then why force your theory of trinity that not even the Prophets of God taught it! Even Jesus Christ never EXPLICITLY said, again I will repeat it "I AM GOD, WORSHIP ME".

It has proven that the Christ had extraordinary liking for worship and for obedience to God. Had he been God himself he would have not been involved in the worship of God. As God is not required to worship himself, a god who is ILLOGICAL and IRRATIONAL? GOD forbid!



Are you sure?



Then how will you interpret or understand this?

As a prophet, Jesus said this in John 17:21...

"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me"




Am I or your understanding of your own scripture is twisted or ambiguous?

Selective understanding is dangerous and prone to error specially if we don't continue to read the whole chapter.

And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
John 17:22

Two types of oneness are compared
We are one as a church("they may be one") we are not one with the trinity - ("even as we are one")
Oneness as a church with the likeness as the unity with God and Jesus based on Love. But Not the church as one with the trinity.

I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 17:23

"that they may be made perfect in one" - one as a church.

John 17:24
Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Christ just shows us that he intends to share his glory with us and talks about heaven in a vague manner(be with me where I am John 14:2)

additionally how do you explain the glory of Christ before the world was? This further explains the divinity of christ by his existence before the world was even made.


A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
John 20:26-29

Jesus never objected to Thomas instead he magnified Thomas' statement by stating that those who believed that Jesus is God even though those who didn't see Jesus in person are blessed.

Which has more vague understanding of the Gospel of Christ?
1. Based on physical and direct witness of the Apostles? and Old testament accurate prophecies of Christ.
or
2. An isolated Prophet who was hallucinating in a cave and wants to commit suicide because of demons' haunting him?

Jesus and God are one and Jesus is Divine saviour of Man.

If there is ONLY ONE GOD then why force your theory of trinity that not even the Prophets of God taught it! Even Jesus Christ never EXPLICITLY said, again I will repeat it "I AM GOD, WORSHIP ME".

This is where you have misunderstood the character of Christ, he is not egotestical like your allah. He does not force worship he gives us choice and He only tells the truth.

He tells us that He is one with God. He is the Great "I am". He is the word and the word was God.
But he never says "worship me" he tells us why we should worship him.
Jesus appeals to our understanding not through statments.

Overwhelming scriptural evidences and solid sources from the apostles, the prophecies of the old testament outweighs an isolated translation from one man that contradicts the whole Gospel, prophecies and numerous witnesses.

It has proven that the Christ had extraordinary liking for worship and for obedience to God. Had he been God himself he would have not been involved in the worship of God. As God is not required to worship himself, a god who is ILLOGICAL and IRRATIONAL? GOD forbid!

trinity bro not singularity.


Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel(God with us).
Isaiah 7:14

As for you God is calling you:
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:4

[ketllac]

pwede i quote usa diri ang teachings nga ilang giclaim, ug i reveal sad kung kaning imong gitawag nga mga terrorists tinuod ba jud ni sila nga mga christians before ko mo tubag?

ngano i qoute pa man ? the fact nga naa sad sa christianity nag pasabot sad nga pareha sa imo gi silte "Kung ang usa ka taw magbuhat ug butang which is against sa iyang giclaim nga belief then kanang tawhana ang dunay diperensya, dili na nimo mablame sa Belief itself" pareha ta tanan ug excuses mapa muslim man o Christian..wala gitudlo sa christian ang bigotry blah blahh....ug wala sad gitudlo sa islam ang violence blah blahh.....

[wormwoods]

ngano i qoute pa man ? the fact nga naa sad sa christianity nag pasabot sad nga pareha sa imo gi silte "Kung ang usa ka taw magbuhat ug butang which is against sa iyang giclaim nga belief then kanang tawhana ang dunay diperensya, dili na nimo mablame sa Belief itself" pareha ta tanan ug excuses mapa muslim man o Christian..wala gitudlo sa christian ang bigotry blah blahh....ug wala sad gitudlo sa islam ang violence blah blahh.....

so dili nato maparehas ang christianity sa uban religion kay wala na gitudlo ang pagpatay. Sa Islam kay gisugo mana mismo ni Prophet Mohamed to kill the infidels. whether unsa pana ang interpretation about ana, basta pagpatay. Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a Holy Jihad “Holy War” against the infidels of the world. By killing an infidel they are assured of a place in heaven.

wala paka makasabot part about the core of Christianity. I encourage you to know more about it. Nindot jud kung makasabot ta about the Lord Jesus Christ.

[ketllac]

so dili nato maparehas ang christianity sa uban religion kay wala na gitudlo ang pagpatay. Sa Islam kay gisugo mana mismo ni Prophet Mohamed to kill the infidels. Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a Holy Jihad “Holy War” against the infidels of the world. By killing an infidel they are assured of a place in heaven.

wala paka makasabot part about the core of Christianity. I encourage you to know more about it. Nindot jud kung makasabot ta about the Lord Jesus Christ.

bisan mo ingon pa ka nga Christianity is a religion of peace but ang punto diha nga daghan kaayo mo misinterpret sa bible labi ng verse sa deutoronomy sa pag punish ug pag patay sa mga infidels.... kung wala gi sugo sa mga pari ug pastor, unsa man tong gibuhat sa mga protestant nga ila man sad gi -sunog ang heretics panahon sa reformation? bisan mo ingon ka nga mo persecute ang muslim ug non-muslim pero naa na silay argument nga ang word jihad doesnt necessarily imply any violent effort, let alone “war” and such instances of extreme violence... pareha sa argument sa christian nga wala gi tudlo sa bible ang pag persecute ug infidels (in fact naa sa deutoronomy ug 2 Chronicles 15:12-13) kay lagi new testament ang mas dapat sundon...di ba equal ra tanan....


sige ikaw nakasabot ako wala? sige kay christian man ta, naa na ba koy rights nga mo claim christianity ra ang maluwas ug tinuod nga religion? can you also decide or cite nga sects or groups sa christian ang wala nagsubay sa tinuod nga christianismo? unsa nga paagi? ug asa gikuha nimo imo authority to decide kung pananglitan naa ka? same also sa mga Sunnis and Shiites nga nag bangi kung kinsay tinoud...