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  1. #571

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?


    good works is the result of our salvation. kay nitoo man ta nga naay Dios, syempre mo-follow ng mga maayong binuhatan (Eph 2:10). but when in comes to salvation, grasya ra jud na sa Dios pinaagi sa atong pagtoo. wala nay labot ang buhat(Eph 2:8-9) iwork-out nato ang kaluwasan kay naa naman nato para magmabungahon pero dili "work for" nga kinahanglan pa ta mobuhat para maluwas. ang kaluwasan nga gihatag sa Dios eternal na, hangtud sa hangtud. in other words dili na mawala nga bisag makasala paka basta luwas ka, luwas jud ka. dili pareha sa giingon sa uban nga kun makasala ka mawala kuno. og daghang mga bible characters (like David) nga atong mabasa nga bisag anak na cla sa Dios pero nakasala japon cla. yet wala mawala ilang kaluwasan. pero kun tinuoray kang luwas nya cge kag pakasala, for sure naa jud nay chastisement sa Dios. the word of God is simple og ang kaluwasan sayon ra. taw ray galisod-lisod sa kaluwasan. it's just a matter of faith, if one truly believed God then no question he believes in His word. for without faith it is impossible to please God (Heb 11:6).

  2. #572

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    We are SAVED by Faith but we are JUDGED by works.

    The whole book of James is about what it means to have REAL FAITH. Faith, without works (and the transformation made possible by the Holy Spirit) is DEAD.

    The real proof that you have FAITH and ACCEPTED JESUS as your Lord and Master is if your Works change because of this acceptance.

  3. #573

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    I agree with both of you bro.
    Ang misconception ni emerge man gud to those professing christians nga walay chastisement sa Ginoo. So murag diha sad malink nga need jud mag maintain ug good works, not realizing that the necessity in doing it is para makita ang fruit sa tinud-anay nga faith, not for salvation.

    In fact there are 2 kinds of christians who accepted christ, Professing and Possessing. Ang ginoo ra jud ug siya ang nakabalo kung tinud anay ang pagtuo ug pagdawat niya.

  4. #574

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    i believe on the chastisement sa ginoo bro. The more magpalayo or morebelde sa iyaha the more miserable our lives will become.

    1 corinthians 3
    16 Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.

  5. #575

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Lain sad kaau kung dili sad ipakita sa deeds oi...

  6. #576

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by adia View Post
    Lain sad kaau kung dili sad ipakita sa deeds oi...
    there are people that dont have capacity to do work. Unsay buhaton nila para maluwas?

    Kanang mga inbalido sukad pagkabata nga bisag pag istorya di kabuhat? unsaon pagkaluwas?

  7. #577

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    : dili na makaluwas ang faith or works oi..

  8. #578

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoStepsFromHeLL View Post
    : dili na makaluwas ang faith or works oi..
    if Luwas sa kagutom di jud

  9. #579

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    Lisud jud sa taw sabton ang mga butang nga spiritual labi na kay dili nila makita. pero kung moabot na ang oras nga moatobang na sa iyang creator, ulahi jud ang tanan!

    parehas ra sad sa taw nga too proud sa iyang self as if dili mamatay but when time nga moabot na sa iyaha or sa iyang pamilya, anha ra makaamgo sa mga pinaka importanteng butang sa kinabuhi.

    1 corinthians 1:21
    For because, by the purpose of God, the world, with all its wisdom, had not the knowledge of God, it was God's pleasure, by so foolish a thing as preaching, to give salvation to those who had faith in him.

  10. #580

    Default Re: Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

    For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

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