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    Default Re: Philippines may buy fighter jets other US..SA WAKAS!


    Quote Originally Posted by mtawason View Post
    ^ bro nag expect jud diay mo ug gubat? Bisan mupahuway pa ug 100 years ang china bro dili gihapon katupong ang pinas.
    The state of preparedness in an armed force is frequently the aspect that deters war. It's not whether we can defeat China or not, that should not be the concern of the AFP upper echelon. Their concern is to make a fighting force that will inflict enough casualties on ANY possible opposing force (in this case, China) to reach their threshold of how much casualties they can take before disengaging or discontinuing their aggression. We can't possibly hope to inflict damage on them that we render their force ineffective, but if we are able to show that we are capable of inflicting substantial damage, that may be the deterrent from any aggression.

    So for a small nation, such as the Philippines, you had better get a substantially "big stick" and wave it around so bullies will see it. This is a message to them saying "In the end, you may beat me to a pulp, but not before I give you a good few whacks myself, that may cause bruises or wounds." Now, is China going to risk getting some "bruises or wounds" and a whole lot of other consequences (internationally) for a sandbar? Ilaha nasad nang resolve, kung in-ana sila ka desperate for a shoal. Maybe it is true sad about the speculation that there is 213 billion barrels of oil in S. China Sea. So it is up to them if it is worth it or not, but we effectively up the ante by building a stronger military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hulagway View Post
    if our APF is capable as JAPAN,SKOREA,INDIA or PAkistan..you think CHINA would bully us? you think they would dare step in PANATAG shoal?
    .....South Korea has the US Armed Forces everywhere. They already have NoKor to handle which China doesn't even like.

    .....Japan gets bullied enough by China economically (and China was severally mistreated in WW2 if you study Rape of Nanking)

    .....India has Nukes and 1 Billion. I don't care if your military sucks. You have nukes you are God.

    .....Pakistan....US kisses their ass way too much...and they have nukes. Again you have Nukes you are God.

    It's not based on the size of their military if you have Nukes. China isn't a country to go on military offensive or even be successful. They have 1 Billion to worry about in their own. You are also talking about the top world powers or regional powers not juts in armed forces but economy.

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    Default Re: Philippines may buy fighter jets other US..SA WAKAS!

    Philippines biggest deterrent is that their ally US Navy has nuclear submarines with short range capability (Nuclear Warheads) in the South China Sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by expat08 View Post
    .....South Korea has the US Armed Forces everywhere. They already have NoKor to handle which China doesn't even like.

    .....Japan gets bullied enough by China economically (and China was severally mistreated in WW2 if you study Rape of Nanking)

    .....India has Nukes and 1 Billion. I don't care if your military sucks. You have nukes you are God.

    .....Pakistan....US kisses their ass way too much...and they have nukes. Again you have Nukes you are God.

    It's not based on the size of their military if you have Nukes. China isn't a country to go on military offensive or even be successful. They have 1 Billion to worry about in their own. You are also talking about the top world powers or regional powers not juts in armed forces but economy.
    the answer is NO...simple..no one would dares to bully you if they know you can fightback....

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    Quote Originally Posted by expat08 View Post
    Philippines biggest deterrent is that their ally US Navy has nuclear submarines with short range capability (Nuclear Warheads) in the South China Sea.
    which makes me think,that if only our politicians do fully support our AFP modernization starting from 1995..we could have a deterrent force enough to make them think twice,

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    Only countries with Nukes can flex their muscles right now.

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    12 planes already in the table..... Still waiting if M-346 or T/A-50

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    balipseyev, what planes? confirmed purchased na sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by expat08 View Post
    Philippines biggest deterrent is that their ally US Navy has nuclear submarines with short range capability (Nuclear Warheads) in the South China Sea.
    The US wouldn't launch nukes over a hypothetical invasion of the Philippines. If they were likely to do something like that they'd have done it already during Desert Storm after Iraq invaded Kuwait or during the five day war when Russia invaded Georgia. A strong deterrent is always prudent and it's highly like IMO that if Taiwan wasn't so well armed they would already have been invaded by mainland China who continue to make threats of invasion and through a series of provocative acts in the region seem eager of late to make a practical demonstration of their military capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by expat08 View Post
    Philippines biggest deterrent is that their ally US Navy has nuclear submarines with short range capability (Nuclear Warheads) in the South China Sea.
    that's not a deterrent. The only way nuclear arsenal becomes a deterrent is if we ourselves have the capability. Your ally won't risk using those weapons unless they themselves are facing the brink of annihilation, not because we are. Common sense dictates that allies can only help you so much. If the U.S. honors it's diplomatic relations with the Philippines, you can bet it is limited to conventional warfare.

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