True Age of the Universe - Biblical Fact - From Age 0 to Jesus

[omniknight]

sige silag salig sa ilang knowledge nga limited kaayo nga mismo wala man gani silay alamag sa first day pagkatawo nila! kana na hinuong creation sa ginoo! hahahah.

Mao gyd.. Ang naka lo-oy sa uban dira bro kay wala silay Savior to rest upon pag human sa ilang kina-buhi diri sa kalibutan.

Thus saith the LORD!



Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me.

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Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.

- Isaiah 45:21-22

[ketllac]

Ngano mugamit man ka og relativity there is no point you are just spouting baseless theories without explanations just to improve your image. You are on a sinking boat so try to fake it till you make it.

Ngano 24 hours man? try reading post #393

walay point o wala lang ka kasabot? .... nganong 24 hours? kay ikaw ug ang adherents sa biblical literalism sunday, monday, nga 24 hours na aron ipagawas nga bata pa ang universe...

imong gi- insert ang imo panabot sa time ug sa God's concept of time...unsaon nimo pag kabalo nga day 1 na nga ang definition sa time kitang tawo apil ka ana, nag depende man na sa earth ug nearest star (Sun). nya sa day 1 wala may earth na create ana..therefore ang pag sulti ni God diha sa Genesis nga day 1 is his own concept and unfathomable..dili na automatic 24 hour period nga panabot pareha nato..nganong i -pwersa man ninyo ang inyo kaugalingon understanding sa concept time nga dili man mo ginoo? aron lang gyud i -insert inyo literal nga panabot sa bible....

[SioDenz]

So na unsa nang true Age of the Universe?

dali-a ra mutaas ang post oi, 5 pages per 12 hrs man

[ketllac]

I'm Christian and I find this an interesting question. As far as I know and from what I read, ancient Hebrews didn't have 24-hour system back in the Old Testament period. An entire day began at when the sun sets and rises.

Ang changes ni abot na pag New Testament. In gospels like Mark used Jewish time while John used Roman time. Roman time starts from midnight to midnight. Jewish time sunset to sunrise.

dili na mao ang punto..bisan unsa pay imo calendar system, constant gyud na ang rotation sa kalibutan nga 24 hours kay mao man na ang design sa Ginoo...kinsay mosupak anang mathematical constant nga iyahang gi design..

ang pangutana, gi unsa ni kenshiro pag interpret ang 1 day sa day one nga wala pa may earth nacreate anang panahuna..di ba sa creation story day 4 pa gi create ni God ang earth..He and the adherents of biblical literalism want to force the issue that God's time is the same with 24 hour period..sila maoy ni butang sa ilahang relative nga concept of time sa absolute nga concept of God's time..arong lang ingon nga bata pa ang universe...kadakong sayop....murag feel nila nga pareha silag panabot sa ginoo.. I am affraid nga wala mo kakuha sa ako point? or gi assume lang siguro ninyo nga nakasabot mo?

pangutana naa bay Jews atong panahuna nga mo design sa Jewish time nga wala pa man gi create ni God ang tawo?

[machinecult]

dili na mao ang punto..bisan unsa pay imo calendar system, constant gyud na ang rotation sa kalibutan nga 24 hours kay mao man na ang design sa Ginoo...kinsay mosupak anang mathematical constant nga iyahang gi design..

ang pangutana, gi unsa ni kenshiro pag interpret ang 1 day sa day one nga wala pa may earth nacreate anang panahuna..di ba sa creation story day 4 pa gi create ni God ang earth..He and the adherents of biblical literalism want to force the issue that God's time is the same with 24 hour period..sila maoy ni butang sa ilahang relative nga concept of time sa absolute nga concept of God's time..arong lang ingon nga bata pa ang universe...kadakong sayop....murag feel nila nga pareha silag panabot sa ginoo.. I am affraid nga wala mo kakuha sa ako point? or gi assume lang siguro ninyo nga nakasabot mo?

Kalma lang diha lol. Anyway, kasagaran Young-Earth creationist ni basi man sa Age of the Earth through the genealogies of biblical personalities. Gi ingon ana na nila ug compute among other methods. Si Isaac Newton ingon 4004 yr. old gani to iya. Pero there's nothing in the Bible about the age of the earth.

[omniknight]

pangutana naa bay Jews atong panahuna nga mo design sa Jewish time nga wala pa man gi create ni God ang tawo?

obviously wala ka nag basa sa thread.

Ka klaro anang ang Gino-o mismo nag sulti ni Adam nya si Adam ang writter sa first part sa Genesis.

Walay taw hangtod karon na maka conclude(100%) na 7 days ang one week kay wala na siya gi base sa Science(Knowledge sa taw). Ang Gino-o nag sulti ni Adam ana.

Didto na nag Base sa True Science <- Knowledge from God.

Evolution<- Mga BAKAK from the Pagan religion that branched out to atheism and creeped into the so called "Christian" churces of the modern world.



Genesis = Creation

Gene <- Genesis

For us to Be reGenesis, we need to believe in the New Adam which is Christ.

Born Again <- New Creature

reGENEration <- reGenesis <- reCreate <- New Creature.

Moses was a Born Again Christian(regeneration), so as Noah, prophets, ect.

Proof?

John 3:3
Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”


Jesus tells Nicodemus:

You should "NOT BE" surprised at my saying, You must be born again.

You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and "DO YOU NOT" understand these things?

...but "STILL" you people do not accept our testimony.


The Doctrine of Regeneration was the doctrine of repentance and belief of the Messiah in the Old Testament, just like in the New Testament.

[MeaCulpa]

whatever the it is, the truth will set us free!

a conversation:
Atheist: What will you do if you'll find out there is no god?
Believer: i will do nothing, for the time i believed gives me hope.
What about you? what if you'll find out there is GOD?

[omniknight]

^^^ Ouch.. hehe,

naa pa daw sila pang tubag ana bro..

alkansi daw ta if wala gyd Gino-o(which is 100% impossible)

kay di daw nato ma enjoy ang Lust sa kalibutan..

di daw nato ma Love ang Kwarta and Power sa kwarta.. and enjoyment in Sin..

di daw nato ma enjoy ang Pang babaye <- Fornication(s*x before marraige) and Adultery(bisag minyo na manghilabot gyapon lain)..

Usik daw oras mo defend sa Faith in Christ <- as if wala pud sila usikan sa ilang oras to defend the atheist faith.

[omniknight]

Time—no friend of evolution (Mas daghan oras, mas daghan ang sayop sa Evolutionary Theory..)


Dr John Sanford’s eye-opening book of the bad news about our declining genes ends with the good news that there’s a ‘lifeboat’:
“I believe the Author of Life has the power to defeat death and degeneration. … He gave us life in the first place, so He can give us new life today. … I humbly put before you this alternative paradigm for your consideration—Jesus is our one true hope.”—p. 159, Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome.

Relentless mutational degradation

Renowned geneticist and inventor of the gene gun, Dr John Sanford, in his landmark book Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome, highlights the problem.

The relentless net effect of random mutations (which evolutionists suppose to be the ‘engine’ of evolution) is actually degradation or complete destruction of function.

Facing up to genetic meltdown

In his book, Dr Sanford bluntly warns that “there is no realistic method to halt degeneration”. This is bad news—like the Titanic, we’re going down, down, down; not ‘evolving up, up, up’. But Dr Sanford does not shy away from this. Here’s some of what he says in his ‘Personal Postlude’ in the book:


Link:
Time no friend of evolution

[MeaCulpa]

^^^ Ouch.. hehe,

naa pa daw sila pang tubag ana bro..

alkansi daw ta if wala gyd Gino-o(which is 100% impossible)




kay di daw nato ma enjoy ang Lust sa kalibutan..

di daw nato ma Love ang Kwarta and Power sa kwarta.. and enjoyment in Sin..

di daw nato ma enjoy ang Pang babaye <- Fornication(s*x before marraige) and Adultery(bisag minyo na manghilabot gyapon lain)..

Usik daw oras mo defend sa Faith in Christ <- as if wala pud sila usikan sa ilang oras to defend the atheist faith.

di pud siguro tanan atheist in-ana. but if in-ana ang stand sa ubang atheist, then, wa na tay mabuhat.
i believe that they believe, they're just insisting that they don't. to see is to believe gd na mostly sa ila. dapat naay proof. evidence. naay explanation. well, di ta kablame nila.
basta, let's just pray for them though, di na sila ganahan ampo-an.

age of the universe--unsa lge nga time system ang ato sundon?