View Poll Results: What do you think is the right thing to do?

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  • Fight a war because it is the right thing to do

    42 61.76%
  • Do nothing, because we already lost it before it begins

    26 38.24%
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  1. #161

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    Quote Originally Posted by machinecult View Post
    What is this "unless we do something" really? What is this 'something'? I'm for diplomatic solution and as far as I know that's not being cowardly that's being realistic, because face it, life is hard in this country already and some of you people want war. Why? What does that benefit?
    I'm not saying "do something" means go to war. Do something that we will stand for what is ours what ever the cause. Of course I'll go to diplomacy first, but what if the opponent will not listen, then what? Should we give up because diplomacy failed? But I don't want to go that far.
    Last edited by mrrob2001; 05-13-2012 at 12:43 AM.

  2. #162

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    Quote Originally Posted by trollolol View Post
    Stop lying your greatest ambition in life is to work abroad so you can afford to drive your own car. How can you claim to be so nationalistic when you want to earn more money the only way you can... That is to work abroad as an OFW. Magpapicture dayon ka sa snow pina layat layat dayon haha ay ko ilara sir...
    haha.. maayo man diay ka mo himo ug storya diay!! wala ka kaila nako ug wala ka kabalo kung unsa akong pagkataw.. FYI' dili tanan taw pariha nimu ug utok.. kung ingun ana man gane ka ayaw kog amunga! Kung gubaton na gane tas mga insik.. Hala tago ug maayo kung di ka ganahan mo sukol.. sa akong tan-aw nimu taas kayo imong tan-aw sa imong kaugalingon.. haha! Kaluoy nimung bataa ka!



    Quote Originally Posted by fyi View Post
    this is very sad and actually disturbing.. although it's undeniable nga naa tay mga kababayan nga dili nato mapasigarbo.. like you for example.. there are still many people worth fighting for.. how about your family especially the innocent kids? i am not pro war but i will not allow my self nor my country to be bullied...

    i sure hope dili ka laki or better yet dili ka Filipino.. coz you are a disgrace.. and hey maybe you should consider seeing that psychiatrist first...
    Disturbing jud kaayo boss kung makabasa kag pariha ug pangutok aning trollolol.. Lisud kaayo kung managhan ni...

  3. #163

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    Quote Originally Posted by lirab@yahoo.com View Post
    wala jd d.i ka kasabot boss klaro kaau nga naa nana sa atong teritoryo ang shoal 135n.miles gkan sa pangasinan so sulod na 200 n miles nga teritoryo sa pilipinas... cgi raman gd ka ug JACKSTONE mao nga wala jd ka kasabot.. mao laban ka sa mga insik kay illegal tingali ang imng negosyo pariha sa mga insik nga bisan dili pwede panguhaon kay endangered species na gpang kuha lang ghapon..
    Ang EEZ lagi gamiton. Do you the limitations set on an EEZ? If you did then you would know China is not violating any law. Did you know that even the protector of democracy and the champion of the Filipino people the good ol US of A is not even a signatory to the agreement giving force to EEZs? Unsaon nimo ug pugos sa imong claim that not even America supports it hahaha. They give more wait to historical claim over EEZs.

    Laws are only useful as long as you can enforce them. Enforce them with what? Soldiers like you na DOTA ray abilidad?

    Quote Originally Posted by asobreh View Post
    haha.. maayo man diay ka mo himo ug storya diay!! wala ka kaila nako ug wala ka kabalo kung unsa akong pagkataw.. FYI' dili tanan taw pariha nimu ug utok.. kung ingun ana man gane ka ayaw kog amunga! Kung gubaton na gane tas mga insik.. Hala tago ug maayo kung di ka ganahan mo sukol.. sa akong tan-aw nimu taas kayo imong tan-aw sa imong kaugalingon.. haha! Kaluoy nimung bataa ka!
    Kaisug ba aning nangambisyon mangabroad. Cge tulo laway hoping matagaan ug VISA. Aber, ga ROTC ka or nag NSTP lang? Kana kung nakatungtong kag college... Sir mas looy ka kay imong damgo wa pa nimo maamgo.

  4. #164

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    Kani debate jud. Observer lang ko pero hope dili lang unta kau personal mga boss. :salute:

  5. #165

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    Quote Originally Posted by trollolol View Post
    Ang EEZ lagi gamiton. Do you the limitations set on an EEZ? If you did then you would know China is not violating any law. Did you know that even the protector of democracy and the champion of the Filipino people the good ol US of A is not even a signatory to the agreement giving force to EEZs? Unsaon nimo ug pugos sa imong claim that not even America supports it hahaha. They give more wait to historical claim over EEZs..
    Bro, mdyo pikyas ang mga info imung gpangpost dri. Naay links nimu? You can read my previous posts too if you need insights.
    Although the United States has not ratified the UNCLOS as a codification of customary international law, it has recognized it as a legal and binding law to be followed. So dli jud tinuod nga wlay gi Violate ang China. Sure ka? Destruction of marine ecosystem and endangered species?
    Poaching of giant clams, sharks and corals. Wlay gi-violate na law ang China?
    But the US will sign this ratification after the law is pushed by Hillary clinton. (United States non-ratification of the UNCLOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
    "On May 15, 2007, United States President George W. Bush announced that he had urged the Senate to approve the UNCLOS.
    On October 31, 2007, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 17-4 to send the treaty to the full U.S. Senate for a vote.
    On September 20, 2007, an Arbitral Tribunal constituted under UNCLOS issued its decision on a longstanding maritime boundary dispute between Guyana and Suriname, which contained a ruling blaming both nations for violating treaty obligations.
    On January 13, 2009, speaking at her Senate confirmation hearing as nominee for United States Secretary of State, Senator Hillary Clinton said that ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty would be a priority for her."

  6. #166

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    I never mentioned anything or took the position of simply giving up. That is why I protested that the POLL's caption is quite misleading.



    It gives the impression that those who voted NO look like we already give up. No offense TS if this is unintended. I voted NO because I don't believe war with a superpower is an option. They say "The brave die first." We'll nobody has to die really. China is alone in this. India says it might even get involve.

    India might get involved in the Philippine – Chinese dispute over the Scarborough Shoal


    Why play only to lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrrob2001 View Post
    I'm not saying "do something" means go to war. Do something that we will stand for what is ours what ever the cause. Of course I'll go to diplomacy first, but what if the opponent will not listen, then what? Should we give up because diplomacy failed? But I don't want to go that far.

  7. #167

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    Quote Originally Posted by machinecult View Post
    Why play only to lose?
    Again, why not stand for what is right?

    You give up on, Shoal, next, China will say Spratly Island is their property, give up on Spratly's, next China will say Batanes Island is their property, give up Batanes, next China will say Philippine is their property, give up Philippines? Is this what you mean?

  8. #168

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    ang mka pilde nato kai c jackie chan ra og c jet li

  9. #169

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    Quote Originally Posted by trollolol View Post
    Ang EEZ lagi gamiton. Do you the limitations set on an EEZ? If you did then you would know China is not violating any law. Did you know that even the protector of democracy and the champion of the Filipino people the good ol US of A is not even a signatory to the agreement giving force to EEZs? Unsaon nimo ug pugos sa imong claim that not even America supports it hahaha. They give more wait to historical claim over EEZs.

    Laws are only useful as long as you can enforce them. Enforce them with what? Soldiers like you na DOTA ray abilidad?



    Kaisug ba aning nangambisyon mangabroad. Cge tulo laway hoping matagaan ug VISA. Aber, ga ROTC ka or nag NSTP lang? Kana kung nakatungtong kag college... Sir mas looy ka kay imong damgo wa pa nimo maamgo.
    mao na dra cgi raman gd ka ug dula ug JACKSTONE mao wala ka kabalo. pang hatag daw ug links anang imng info. basin sa imng lolo na nga insik ang imng info gkan. pag research sad dra oi kung naa ba jd rights ang china mo claim ana mag base nasad ka kung kinsa ang na una ana dra.? kalukohan na imoha.

    besides boss mura man ug imong lang sayon sayonon ang mga ofw. wala sad ka rights nga mang in.ana kay mao na ilang gusto. dli pariha nimo salig lang sa imng pamilya nga insik.

  10. #170

    Default Re: Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    Bro, mdyo pikyas ang mga info imung gpangpost dri. Naay links nimu? You can read my previous posts too if you need insights.
    Although the United States has not ratified the UNCLOS as a codification of customary international law, it has recognized it as a legal and binding law to be followed. So dli jud tinuod nga wlay gi Violate ang China. Sure ka? Destruction of marine ecosystem and endangered species?
    Poaching of giant clams, sharks and corals. Wlay gi-violate na law ang China?
    But the US will sign this ratification after the law is pushed by Hillary clinton. (United States non-ratification of the UNCLOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
    "On May 15, 2007, United States President George W. Bush announced that he had urged the Senate to approve the UNCLOS.
    On October 31, 2007, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 17-4 to send the treaty to the full U.S. Senate for a vote.
    On September 20, 2007, an Arbitral Tribunal constituted under UNCLOS issued its decision on a longstanding maritime boundary dispute between Guyana and Suriname, which contained a ruling blaming both nations for violating treaty obligations.
    On January 13, 2009, speaking at her Senate confirmation hearing as nominee for United States Secretary of State, Senator Hillary Clinton said that ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty would be a priority for her."
    Nya gipirmahan ba or wala?

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