"Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate"- Wisdom of the Elders
"Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate"- Wisdom of the Elders
uu bai para fair bah nya muhatag sad ko nimo ug hard evidence para makabsa sad ka nga pwede d i misahan ang naghikog..
kay kung himo2 rana nimo aw bcn nakichismis raka sa lain nya imo gisulti dre may nang naa tay basehan.. nagkalat ka ug wrong information sa RC, meaning dala nana pangdaot..
ako bro naa ko ikahatag ikaw naa to prove your claims?..
Last edited by dartzed; 05-09-2012 at 10:55 AM.
naa bitaw kay evidence kay gi usab nman
Verbal raman ning ako kay i dont think ang pari muhatag ug written notice.
Pero sa akong panguta ikaduha ba, wa nimu tubaga.
Ang uban RC dender diri mu ingun man nga inyung doctrines uban gikan sa Tradition sa Church nya ikaw mu ingun tanan naa sa bibliya jud. Kinsa may sakto ninyu ana run?
then post the evidence sa historical records nga naay amendments sa catechism of the catholic church nga gimade..hahaha simple ra au na..
ayaw panguta na ug lain kay ang ato topic is ana ka deli misahan ang naghikog ayaw pagtopic ug lain para deli ni masawsaw..
atubangon na nua kag tubag ikaw na nua magliko2..
FYI bro RC Church was keeping records more than you know so ayaw ko sultie ug verbal kay halos tanan nimo makita krn are knowledge gishare sa Old Christian nga Catholic Church even ang knowledge sa science though they kept it until kay they thought nga gikan sa devil ang knowledge.
Last edited by dartzed; 05-09-2012 at 11:12 AM.
i'll consider your answer correct if you can prove to me 100% nga walay gipasahan ang apostoles, just give me hard evidence kay kung imo pangutan.on ang RC nga simbahan naa man cla nga apostolic succession though deli ko kaexplain ani nga part better ask a priest.. ikaw naa kay ikapakita nga evidence to prove your point?..
Last edited by dartzed; 05-09-2012 at 11:32 AM.
"When you pray, don't babble on and on as the heathens do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again." - Matthew 6:7
Repetitions tarnishes its sincerity. Mura ba ug habitually telling someone "I love you" over and over again until it loses its meaning.
Naa man gi pasahan ang mga apostles dili lang mga pari ug labaw na dili mga Katoliko kai wala pa man ang RC anang panahona. It would take 200 years na maconceive na ang Catholic na ideology and then 300+ years until ang RC ma fully established.
Kung naa ka time basaha lang ang New Testament. Sugod sa book of Acts up to the end walay apil Revelation. Naa ra jud na diha ang story sa mga unang simbahan.
Pwede pud ni nimo tan.awon na timeline. >> Timeline of Christianity - ReligionFacts
effectual ang forgiveness of sins only to those who believe and live with Christ.
Colossians 2:13-14 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
It also supports Paul’s statement that at the moment of belief the Holy Spirit was sealed within us as a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance .
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory (Ephes. 1:13-14).
Taken literally, this means the Holy spirit is the down payment that guarantees the redemption of the acquired possession (us). This guarantee went into effect when we first believed.
It is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. (2 Cor. 1:21-22).
This tells us that God has established us as His and has placed His seal upon us as well. A seal is meant to authenticate ownership, placing it beyond doubt. It’s similar to the brand a rancher places on his cattle. 1 Cor. 6:19 says we are no longer ours, we were bought with a price. The price was the life of His Son Jesus. The Holy Spirit is our guarantee that God, who acquired us, will also redeem us.
Hebrews 10:12-14 states that Jesus offered Himself as a once for all time sacrifice for sin that has made us perfect forever.
But when this priest (Jesus Christ) had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.
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