The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[Grammaton]

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Thus, taking your point, it would be prudent to specifically quote the teachings and works of Jesus. But Jesus himself didn't write his very Gospel. and how many gospels do we have now? and going back to my previous point, who decided that we would only consider four gospels? how about the other writings about Jesus? are they not "inspired"?

Unusual man tingali sa leaders, president, or anybody nga mo bisita sa usa ka lugar and at the same time writing chronicles about his visit other than his followers.

Regarding gnostic text............
The Gnostic Gospels preached what Paul would describe as another Gospel. Some Gnostic teachers taught that Jesus was Divine but not human, others the exact opposite and some that He never actually died on the cross but another died in His place. Really? Apparently so, but the problem is that an imperfect sacrifice would not atone for our sins and would also contradict prophecy from the established canon of Scripture!

Some of the Gnostic beliefs were part and parcel of the Greek philosophy of that time. The Gnostic Gospels preached a kind of two tier system of Christianity where knowledge is esteemed above faith. These were essentially gospels of so called hidden knowledge rather than grace! What did Paul write to the Galatians?

'BUT EVEN IF WE, OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL TO YOU THAN WHAT WE HAVE PREACHED TO YOU, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. AS WE HAVE SAID BEFORE, SO I NOW SAY AGAIN, IF ANYONE PREACHES ANY OTHER GOSPEL TO YOU THAN WHAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED, LET HIM BE ACCURSED.' (Galatians 1v8-9)

And what did Paul write to the Ephesians about grace through faith?

'FOR BY GRACE YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH FAITH, AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES; IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD, NOT OF WORKS LEST ANYONE SHOULD BOAST.' (Ephesians 2v8-9)

Gnostic beliefs were in circulation when John was writing his epistles also and he wrote.

'Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits whether they be of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God.' (1 John 4v2)

In reality, since from the start there is already a contest between true and false beliefs. Mao sad ni gusto nakong masabtan pag-ayo.

[Grammaton]

@ Grammaton

i'd like to point this out to you..

Your bible: Hebrews 10:12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God.
My bible: Hebrews 10:12 - 12 But this man, offering one sacrifice for sins, for ever sits on the right hand of God.

hmmmmmmmmmmm that's the big problem there remember about ako giingon b4 nga translations are not the same?.. well this is where things are mixed up..
offering one sacrifice for sins is so different from having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time..
sa RC bro ang sala nga panulundon ra ang nawala.. kabantay ka walay nakabutang sa imo posts nga asta ang tanan sala sa future ang napapas? but the only thing imo gipakita is kana naay sin of all time nya lahi pa jud tag translation kay naay napuno sa inyo..
How odd is it?..

wala man nawala ang point diha nga sacrifice for sins, wala sad nag-ingon nga ang past ra. But that's not the only verse nga maoy basis. daghan kayo mo support nga verses about the cross as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins.

wala may napuno diha but the placement of the comma.

In addition to this:
The sacrifice of Jesus Christ was a substitutionary sacrifice and atonement for sin. Christ died in the place of the believing sinner. Christ suffered for the believer’s punishment. Christ endured the divine wrath for all that His people ought to have suffered as a result of sin. “Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect?” Not God because He has justified the believing sinner for the reason that Christ died in his place and suffered his punishment.

C. H. Spurgeon said it correctly: “My hope is not because I am not a sinner, but because I am a sinner for whom Christ died. My trust is not that I am holy, but that, being unholy, Christ died for me. My rest is, here, not in what I am, or shall be, or feel, or know, but in what Christ is and must be,--in what Christ did, and is still doing as He stands before yonder throne of glory.”

My hope is built upon Jesus’ blood and righteousness alone.

Jesus Christ saves us by vicariously enduring the penalty to which we were exposed. “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us” (Galatians 3:13).

[dartzed]

wala man nawala ang point diha nga sacrifice for sins, wala sad nag-ingon nga ang past ra. But that's not the only verse nga maoy basis. daghan kayo mo support nga verses about the cross as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins.

wala may napuno diha but the placement of the comma.

In addition to this:
The sacrifice of Jesus Christ was a substitutionary sacrifice and atonement for sin. Christ died in the place of the believing sinner. Christ suffered for the believer’s punishment. Christ endured the divine wrath for all that His people ought to have suffered as a result of sin. “Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect?” Not God because He has justified the believing sinner for the reason that Christ died in his place and suffered his punishment.

C. H. Spurgeon said it correctly: “My hope is not because I am not a sinner, but because I am a sinner for whom Christ died. My trust is not that I am holy, but that, being unholy, Christ died for me. My rest is, here, not in what I am, or shall be, or feel, or know, but in what Christ is and must be,--in what Christ did, and is still doing as He stands before yonder throne of glory.”

My hope is built upon Jesus’ blood and righteousness alone.

Jesus Christ saves us by vicariously enduring the penalty to which we were exposed. “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us” (Galatians 3:13).

nice try but im expecting for the verse that strongly suggest that tanan sala ang nawagtang not from the past but as well as in the future..

wait sa if you are suggesting nga napapas na tanan sala what will happen sa kad2ng imo giingon nga murderer, theft, adulterer, ug uban pah nga padung palang mubuhat sa ila sala sa future? are they saved already even if wala pa cla kabuhat sa sala?..

hmmmmmmmm

[sygbyn619]

naa koy pngutana..sorry if napangutana na ni..
ngnung mostly sa atong prayers memorized mn?

[kuroro_lucifer]

naa koy pngutana..sorry if napangutana na ni..
ngnung mostly sa atong prayers memorized mn?

hmm na memorize lang kay sige man tag balik pray ana.

[xco0ter]

hmm na memorize lang kay sige man tag balik pray ana.

mao, mora na lang gud ko ug parrot

[SioDenz]

unsa man tong mga indulgence sa panahon sa crusades, naa sad tos bibliya?

[dartzed]

@SioDenz

asa nman imo proof nga deli misahan ang naghikog sa RC bah murag chismis raman cguro to imo bro.

[SioDenz]

@SioDenz

asa nman imo proof nga deli misahan ang naghikog sa RC bah murag chismis raman cguro to imo bro.

Unsa man say gusto nimu nga evidence, naa diay written document ang RC sa tanan ninyung doctrina?

u expect nga naay video or recording? paita.

kinsa gud tawn pari muhatag ug OFFICIAL church notice nga di pwedi misahan. Nya mag expect sad diay ka nga ang hingtundan magdala dala ug recorder ig ask nila sa pari para pamisa sa naghikog nila nga kabanay?

ang uban RC diri niangkon man gani, if nagpaka buta bungol ka aws imu sad na.

Mura man ka ug natawo gahapon bro.

Unya pangutan on taka, ang uban RC diri mu ingun man nga inyung doctrines uban gikan sa Tradition sa Church nya ikaw mu ingun tanan naa sa bibliya jud. Kinsa may sakto ninyu ana run?

[SugbuNI]

"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites!" I admire those who took extra time to study the Holy Books. But to qualify that one of which is the mere and sole source of salvation is way too much! Who wrote your Holy book by the way? Are these but compilations also? and who decided that it be listed/chronicled in such order?

don't be quick to judge. the book says so, you should read it.

who wrote it? men of God.

who decided? do you have any particular problem that you wish to discuss?