my point is deli ground sa RC ang mujudge sa mga nkasala kay ang simbahan walay katungod ana kay wala kabaw ang simbahan sa sitwasyon sa nagbuhat sa sala ug nganu iya na gibuhat..
Romans 2:1, 1 Corinthians 4:5, James 4:11, etc..
deli man hanap bro wala lang ka kasabot sa punto sa RC.
moa bah bro then i don't agree with you ana nga butang kay unsa may gamit sa final judgement sa pagbalik sa ginuo if napapas na imo tanan sala?.. unsa man sad gamit sa pagpangayo ug pasaylo if nakasala ka sa imo isigka tao krn ug sa umaabot?.. asa man sad ta makabasa ana sa bible bro nga tanan sala ang napapas gikan sa past present ug future?..![]()
Last edited by dartzed; 05-08-2012 at 06:03 PM.
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites!" I admire those who took extra time to study the Holy Books. But to qualify that one of which is the mere and sole source of salvation is way too much! Who wrote your Holy book by the way? Are these but compilations also? and who decided that it be listed/chronicled in such order?
"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
"What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?"
Forgiveness: All sins of all people for all time, except the rejection of Christ as Savior, were forgiven on the Cross of Jesus Christ 2,000 years ago.
Ang message sa cross kay para man mabalik ang atong relasyon ngadto sa ginoo nga naputol in the garden of eden. Kay kung moingon ka nga ang past ra nga mga sala ang napasaylo sa cross unya ang tanan tawo after namatay ang ginoo wala nay labot ato? ni contradict na sya sa kani nga mga verses though daghan pa kayo ni:
2 Corinthians 5:18-19 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, [19] namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
Colossians 1:20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.
Mark 3: 28 Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men
Hebrews 10:12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God .
Luke 12:10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.
Romans 5:10a For if while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, (Notice that this verse says while we were enemies, we were reconciled; this demonstrates that forgiveness occurred on the Cross, not after you put your faith in Jesus Christ as Savior; when you believe, you are given a new heart and the Holy Spirit; that is what specifically saves you.)
Hebrews 2:9b ... Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
John 1:29 The next day he {John the Baptist} saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"
I John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
Dili man lang pari muy gitagaan ana na Mission, kita man tanan mu sunod ni Kristo, mao na tawag 'Great Commission'. Ang simbahan Katoliko natukod pagka-Emperor naman ni Constantine I sa Rome, 300-400 years after the death of Jesus.
Before that there were already many Christian churches. In the New Testament in the Bible for example; those books called Romans, Hebrews, Ephesians, Galatians, Thessalonians, Corinthians, etc.. are letters ni Paul to Christian churches in those places. BTW Christians didn't have buildings back then, tago-tago ra to sila sauna tungod sa persecution. When they say Church it means 'people' not buildings.
All you have to do is look for it and read. Don't over analyze and confuse yourselves.
akong question ngano misahan man ang patay? naa paday mabuhat sa patay?
ma usab pa ang disisyon sa ginoo kong misahan? hehehe
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