The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[BaDBoY]

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wala gyud maayong padulngan kung maglantugi na gani kabahin sa relihiyon.. hamay maayo kung ato lang respetuhon ang tagsa2 nato ka mga relihiyon ug tinuohan? sa niining paagi dili gyud magubot mahitungod sa isyu kung kinsa ang tinuod ug insakto nga relihiyon..

[JcBoY]

i can come with you bro if you want to magpamisa tah you can set time with me para mutuo ka.. like i said choice nana sa tao if muhatag cla or d..

wait bro 33years nka catholic? did you tried magpamisa nga walay bayad bro?.. kung wala pa bro suwayi nya ing.na ko if d tinuod..

pero usahay man gud kaning gitwag ug halad/donations etc pagtuo man gud na sa mga tao nga mao nay bayad.. though d sad nako mablame ang uban tao kay mao man ila nakit.an sa ila ginikanan without explaining things..

i think deli raman RC nagbuhat ani halos tanan religious sectors man and i don't see any problem ani not unless gipugos cla sa simbahan nila..

33 yrs as a Catholic bro but that's 12 yrs ago na! . Sa una bro, daghan ko mga amigo pari nga mabira nako kon duna man gani mga okasyon aron maoy momisa, mokasal ug uban pang mga ceremonyas mao wa ko problema anang pamisa.

Duna kay mga puntos sa imong mga pamahayag bro pero di nimo ikalimod nga duna gyud discrimination usahay diha sa sulod sa simbahan.

PEACE Bro!

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@ Grammaton

Mass requim or in latin "Missa pro defunctis" translated in english Mass for the dead.

deli jud cla parehas bro i duno how to explain this to you but the best way is to find it urself you buy the standard bible sa Rc icompare sa inyo(just be open minded in doing this though)

hahahaha then how will the priest know about the sins sa tao if wala cla muconfess?.. how will the priest pray for thier sins if wala kbaw ang priests sa ila sala mismo? diba paagi na sa confession?

Lev. 19; 21-22 21 And for his trespass he shall offer a ram to the Lord, at the door of the tabernacle of the testimony. And the priest shall pray for him: and for his sin before the Lord: and he shall have mercy on him, and the sin shall be forgiven.
if so nga deli na important nga muagi ug pari mangumpisal bro then y would God himself said this. if imo ni sabton nga verse nganu muagi paman ug pari para ka mapasaylo ani nga example?..

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33 yrs as a Catholic bro but that's 12 yrs ago na! . Sa una bro, daghan ko mga amigo pari nga mabira nako kon duna man gani mga okasyon aron maoy momisa, mokasal ug uban pang mga ceremonyas mao wa ko problema anang pamisa.

Duna kay mga puntos sa imong mga pamahayag bro pero di nimo ikalimod nga duna gyud discrimination usahay diha sa sulod sa simbahan.

PEACE Bro!

i will not argue with you bro more on this kay wala jud ni padulngan but i challange you to try to do what ive said and find it out yourself.. para maenlightened ka though im not suggesting you to convert in RC im not here para muwave ana nga campaign..

kana sa kasal i know asa padung ang kwarta ana jud.. esp if ang kaslonon gnahan ug nindot nga wedding celebration..

ang diskriminasyon bro naa nana sa ato dugo deli nana nato ikahibulong ug mabatyagan na nimo deli lang sa RC nga simbahan kana maoy tinuod..

[Grammaton]

i can come with you bro if you want to magpamisa tah you can set time with me para mutuo ka.. like i said choice nana sa tao if muhatag cla or d..

wait bro 33years nka catholic? did you tried magpamisa nga walay bayad bro?.. kung wala pa bro suwayi nya ing.na ko if d tinuod..

pero usahay man gud kaning gitwag ug halad/donations etc pagtuo man gud na sa mga tao nga mao nay bayad.. though d sad nako mablame ang uban tao kay mao man ila nakit.an sa ila ginikanan without explaining things..

i think deli raman RC nagbuhat ani halos tanan religious sectors man and i don't see any problem ani not unless gipugos cla sa simbahan nila..

sa akong nasabtan pud kay lahi man ang mga protestant groups. Sa katoliko kay ang purpose sa pamisa kay para man makatabang sa kalag sa namatay nga mahaw-as sa purgatoryo while sa mga uban non-catholic kay ang ilang service para man sa mga nahabilin nga makadungog pa sa ebanghilyo para maka andam pa sila sa ilang kaluwasan. correct me if im wrong.

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sa akong nasabtan pud kay lahi man ang mga protestant groups. Sa katoliko kay ang purpose sa pamisa kay para man makatabang sa kalag sa namatay nga mahaw-as sa purgatoryo while sa mga uban non-catholic kay ang ilang service para man sa mga nahabilin nga makadungog pa sa ebanghilyo para maka andam pa sila sa ilang kaluwasan. correct me if im wrong.

Yes kay mao may naa sa RC nga bibliya.. ok manang mga service bro para sa naay chance magbag.o samtang buhi pa ang gitan.aw sa RC nga simbahan man gud kay para atong nituo sa ginuo pero wala nakapanghinulsol b4 cla namatay for some valid cause. deli man sad mujudge ang simbahan nga impyerno na cla kay wala man clay katungod ana buhat mana sa Ginuo.

[Grammaton]

@ Grammaton

Mass requim or in latin "Missa pro defunctis" translated in english Mass for the dead.

deli jud cla parehas bro i duno how to explain this to you but the best way is to find it urself you buy the standard bible sa Rc icompare sa inyo(just be open minded in doing this though)

k. pero wala may dakong kalahian tingali ang bible sa catholic ug sa protestants kay wala man nausab diha ang context. hinuon ang pagka translate maoy deperensya.

hahahaha then how will the priest know about the sins sa tao if wala cla muconfess?.. how will the priest pray for thier sins if wala kbaw ang priests sa ila sala mismo? diba paagi na sa confession?

Lev. 19; 21-22 21 And for his trespass he shall offer a ram to the Lord, at the door of the tabernacle of the testimony. And the priest shall pray for him: and for his sin before the Lord: and he shall have mercy on him, and the sin shall be forgiven.
if so nga deli na important nga muagi ug pari mangumpisal bro then y would God himself said this. if imo ni sabton nga verse nganu muagi paman ug pari para ka mapasaylo ani nga example?..

You have a point but para nako this is in direct opposition to the teachings of Jesus, the teachings of God, which makes it heresy and blasphemy, demeening Jesus and Jesus sacrifice to Our Father God through Jesus crucifixion and resurrection.
During the early years, the time of Moses, God instructed Aaron as High Priest the following:

LEVITICUS: 4: 23-26:
"Or if his sin wherein he hath sinned, come to his knowledge; he shall bring a kid of the goats, a male without blemish: And he shall lay hand upon the head of the goat, and kill it in the place where they kill the burnt offering before the Lord: it is a sin offering. And the priest shall take the blood of the sin offering with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out his blood at the bottom of the altar of burnt offering. And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sins."

This was the teachings of Almighty God before Jesus had come to earth, been crucified and resurrected for the remission of all sin. After Christ's crucifixion, through Jesus as well as through His apostles we are given a different teaching.

In ACTS: 13: 37-39; Paul teaches, making reference to Jesus Christ:

"But he, whom God raised again saw no corruption. Be it known unto you therefore, men and bretheren, that through this man is preached unto you forgiveness of sins: And, by him, all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the laws of Moses."

COLOSSIANS: 1: 14-15: "In whom we have the redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature.

In other words the laws of Moses were not capable of forgiving all the sins of man so Christ had to die so that full forgiveness could be available to man.

Naa may dakong kalahian between sa gi require sa Ginoo sa mga Jews ug sa atoa karon nga giapil sa ginoo sa iyang grasya sa kaluwasan. Usa pud, wala ta mag practice anang halad sa mga hayop.

[Grammaton]

bro can you site one bro para naa specific topic kay for sure RC have based their teachings in the bible..

Curious lang ko about sa atong pope. Is he the vicar (substitute) of Christ on the earth, wielding universal power over the whole church? If you believe the catechism, he is:

"For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered." Pg. 234, #882
"The Roman Pontiff... as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful..." Pg. 235, #891

I dont think naa tay ma based ani nga teaching sa bible.

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in short para nimo deli nana maapply sa ato krn ang naa sa old testament?.. is that what you are saying?..

if heresy na para nimo then i think you are addressing it to God since that is His words to the successors of his teachings..hehehe

like i said nifollow ra ang RC sa ila bible..

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Curious lang ko about sa atong pope. Is he the vicar (substitute) of Christ on the earth, wielding universal power over the whole church? If you believe the catechism, he is:

"For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered." Pg. 234, #882
"The Roman Pontiff... as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful..." Pg. 235, #891

I dont think naa tay ma based ani nga teaching sa bible.

RC believed that the 1st successors of Christ as a hight priests kay ang apostles, according to the bible they have been given that power by Christ himself then from them padung sa mga pari krn sa RC. though im not sure ani kay deli man ko sweto sa family tree sa simbahan kung kinsa jud ang pinakauna gipasahan sa teachings after sa apostles but it seems ang RC church can provide sa info ana better ask a priest nlang..hahaha