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Asa man ko asa akong tubagon ug una bro...

Is there an instance in the bible that the Baby was being baptized?
Does it permitted to kneel down on idols?
Is there a purgatory?
Is there a limbo?
Is the ROMAN CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH was the name of CHurch in the bible?
Does Apostle Peter was the First POPE?
Does God dwells in a man made churches?
Does Veronica really wipe the face of Jesus and leaves an image on the cloth?
Does the two theif on the side of Jesus was named?
Does God allows a leader to be called father?
Does the doctrines of Christ has regular mass and special mass?
Does Jesus Christ born on December 25?
Does we need to worship even the relics of claimed saint?
Does God allows us to worship and make image?
Does rosary is in the bible?
Does sign of the cross commanded by Christ?

Unahon tani ug tubag, Is there an instance in the bible that the Baby was being baptized?

Simple lang nga analogy bro, if you give your baby the most nutritious food and vitamins for her good health without asking her if she likes it or not, how much more sa iyang espiritohanong panglawas. That's why as parental responsibility and love dapat sad nga ihatag ang bunyag sa bata bsan dili pa cya kasabot sakahulugan ug importansya niini.

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Infant Baptism

Since the New Testament era, the Catholic Church has always understood baptism differently, teaching that it is a sacrament which accomplishes several things, the first of which is the remission of sin, both original sin and actual sin—only original sin in the case of infants and young children, since they are incapable of actual sin; and both original and actual sin in the case of older persons.

Peter explained what happens at baptism when he said, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:3. But he did not restrict this teaching to adults. He added, "For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him" (2:39). We also read: "Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name" (Acts 22:16). These commands are universal, not restricted to adults. Further, these commands make clear the necessary connection between baptism and salvation, a
connection explicitly stated in 1 Peter 3:21: "Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."


Christ Calls All to Baptism. The historic Christian Church has always held that Christ’s law applies to infants as well as adults, for Jesus said that no one can enter heaven unless he has been born again of water and the Holy Spirit (John 3:5). His words can be taken to apply to anyone capable of belonging to his kingdom. He asserted such even for children: "Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 19:14).

More detail is given in Luke’s account of this event, which reads: "Now they were bringing even infants to him that he might touch them; and when the disciples saw it, they rebuked them. But Jesus called them to him, saying, ‘Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of God’" (Luke 18:15–16).

The text in Luke 18:15 says, "Now they were bringing even infants to him" (Greek, Prosepheron de auto kai ta brepha). The Greek word brepha means "infants"—children who are quite unable to approach Christ on their own and who could not possibly make a conscious decision to "accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior." Jesus said: "to such as these [referring to the infants and children who had been brought to him by their mothers] belongs the kingdom of heaven." The Lord did not require them to make a conscious decision. He says that they are precisely the kind of people who can come to him and receive the kingdom. If Jesus said "let them come unto me," who are we to say "no," and withhold baptism from them?


In Place of Circumcision

Furthermore, Paul notes that baptism has replaced circumcision (Col. 2:11–12). In that passage, he refers to baptism as "the circumcision of Christ" and "the circumcision made without hands." Of course, usually only infants were circumcised under the Old Law; circumcision of adults was rare, since there were few converts to Judaism. If Paul meant to exclude infants, he would not have chosen circumcision as a parallel for baptism.

This comparison between who could receive baptism and circumcision is an appropriate one. In the Old Testament, if a man wanted to become a Jew, he had to believe in the God of Israel and be circumcised. In the New Testament, if one wants to become a Christian, one must believe in God and Jesus and be baptized. In the Old Testament, those born into Jewish households could be circumcised in anticipation of the Jewish faith in which they would be raised. Thus in the New Testament, those born in Christian households can be baptized in anticipation of the Christian faith in which they will be raised. The pattern is the same: If one is an adult, one must have faith before receiving the rite of membership; if one is a child too young to have faith, one may be given the rite of membership in the knowledge that one will be raised in the faith. This is the basis of Paul’s reference to baptism as "the circumcision of Christ"—that is, the Christian equivalent of circumcision.


Were Only Adults Baptized?

Fundamentalists are reluctant to admit that the Bible nowhere says baptism is to be restricted to adults, but when pressed, they will. They just conclude that is what it should be taken as meaning, even if the text does not explicitly support such a view. Naturally enough, the people whose baptisms we read about in Scripture (and few are individually identified) are adults, because they were converted as adults. This makes sense, because Christianity was just beginning—there were no "cradle Christians," people brought up from childhood in Christian homes.

Even in the books of the New Testament that were written later in the first century, during the time when children were raised in the first Christian homes, we never—not even once—find an example of a child raised in a Christian home who is baptized only upon making a "decision for Christ." Rather, it is always assumed that the children of Christian homes are already Christians, that they have already been "baptized into Christ" (Rom. 6:3). If infant baptism were not the rule, then we should have references to the children of Christian parents joining the Church only after they had come to the age of reason, and there are no such records in the Bible.


Specific Biblical References?

But, one might ask, does the Bible ever say that infants or young children can be baptized? The indications are clear. In the New Testament we read that Lydia was converted by Paul’s preaching and that "She was baptized, with her household" (Acts 16:15). The Philippian jailer whom Paul and Silas had converted to the faith was baptized that night along with his household. We are told that "the same hour of the night . . . he was baptized, with all his family" (Acts 16:33). And in his greetings to the Corinthians, Paul recalled that, "I did baptize also the household of Stephanas" (1 Cor. 1:16).

In all these cases, whole households or families were baptized. This means more than just the spouse; the children too were included. If the text of Acts referred simply to the Philippian jailer and his wife, then we would read that "he and his wife were baptized," but we do not. Thus his children must have been baptized as well. The same applies to the other cases of household baptism in Scripture.

Granted, we do not know the exact age of the children; they may have been past the age of reason, rather than infants. Then again, they could have been babes in arms. More probably, there were both younger and older children. Certainly there were children younger than the age of reason in some of the households that were baptized, especially if one considers that society at this time had no reliable form of birth control. Furthermore, given the New Testament pattern of household baptism, if there were to be exceptions to this rule (such as infants), they would be explicit.

Jesus Said "Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of God" (Luke 18:16).

Shalom!

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wala ni padulngan nga topic if naay tawo nga siya ra sakto pirme then gamiton ang bibliya sa iya pangalandraka...

Tan-awa gud na show sa iya boss, Itanong mo kay Soriano...Bibliya ang sasagot...

Unsa, bibliya si Soriano

[rcruman]

Did he give the verse?
Pilosopo ra ka kung biblia gyud motubag in audible.
How could it answer in audible when it has no mouth.
Bro Soriano just read it and its up to you to accept it or not.

wala ni padulngan nga topic if naay tawo nga siya ra sakto pirme then gamiton ang bibliya sa iya pangalandraka...

So pamatud-i bay kung sayop ang biblia og kami sayop, mao bitaw open for discussion.
Wala ko muingon sakto ko kay biblia ako gibasihan, ang biblia ang sakto igo ra ko nibasa og nigamit.

PEace!

[rcruman]

Simple lang nga analogy bro, if you give your baby the most nutritious food and vitamins for her good health without asking her if she likes it or not, how much more sa iyang espiritohanong panglawas. That's why as parental responsibility and love dapat sad nga ihatag ang bunyag sa bata bsan dili pa cya kasabot sakahulugan ug importansya niini.

This is just an analogy of yours bro, my question is can you find it in the bible? is encyclopedia a bible?

Peter explained what happens at baptism when he said, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:3. But he did not restrict this teaching to adults. He added, "For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him" (2:39). We also read: "Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name" (Acts 22:16). These commands are universal, not restricted to adults. Further, these commands make clear the necessary connection between baptism and salvation, a
connection explicitly stated in 1 Peter 3:21: "Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

When you use the verse Acts 2:38, can a baby or infant repent? Its clear that you should repent and be baptized.

Christ Calls All to Baptism. The historic Christian Church has always held that Christ’s law applies to infants as well as adults, for Jesus said that no one can enter heaven unless he has been born again of water and the Holy Spirit (John 3:5). His words can be taken to apply to anyone capable of belonging to his kingdom. He asserted such even for children: "Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 19:14).

Then in Matthew 19:14 did it says that the children was baptized, with that verse it end up our discussion already because the children don't have sins and the kingdom of heaven belongs to them already.
Christ was baptized in the age of 30 and he is the perfect example of a true Christian.

Thus in this verse refers to baptism? Christ is telling that these children already belongs to Kingdom of God because they don't have sins to repent.
‘Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of God’" (Luke 18:15–16).
When Christ accept the children because He want to show something in spirits:
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 18:4.

Christ was the example:
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 1 Peter 2:21.

ANd lastly we don't have original sin to be baptized and we don't inheret it from our parents.
The bible says what we can inheret from our parents.
House and riches are the inheritance of fathers: and a prudent wife is from the LORD. Proverbs 19:14.

Only baptism you've tackled but please refer to the meaning of Baptism, it means immerse not sprinkle in the forehead.

Peace!

[junmar4]

Did he give the verse?
Pilosopo ra ka kung biblia gyud motubag in audible.
How could it answer in audible when it has no mouth.
Bro Soriano just read it and its up to you to accept it or not.

wala ni padulngan nga topic if naay tawo nga siya ra sakto pirme then gamiton ang bibliya sa iya pangalandraka...

So pamatud-i bay kung sayop ang biblia og kami sayop, mao bitaw open for discussion.
Wala ko muingon sakto ko kay biblia ako gibasihan, ang biblia ang sakto igo ra ko nibasa og nigamit.

PEace!

It doesn't mean nga abi bibliya imo gigamit sakto naka! If magpataka ra ka'g punit sa verse without even getting the background, pataka ra ka! Klaro ana nga mogamit ka ug verse nga moigo sa imo gisulti even if it doesn't point to your ideas!

[joy_happy]

Did he give the verse?
Pilosopo ra ka kung biblia gyud motubag in audible.
How could it answer in audible when it has no mouth.
Bro Soriano just read it and its up to you to accept it or not.

wala ni padulngan nga topic if naay tawo nga siya ra sakto pirme then gamiton ang bibliya sa iya pangalandraka...

So pamatud-i bay kung sayop ang biblia og kami sayop, mao bitaw open for discussion.
Wala ko muingon sakto ko kay biblia ako gibasihan, ang biblia ang sakto igo ra ko nibasa og nigamit.

PEace!

abi diay maoy isulti ni soriano sakto na? What if pareho siya nimo sige lang kuha ug verse nga layo ra sa tinuod?!

[eagleseye]

This is just an analogy of yours bro, my question is can you find it in the bible? is encyclopedia a bible?

Bro, word for word you cannot find in the bible ordering the infants to be baptised. In same way also THERE IS NO ORDER IN THE NEW TESTAMENT PROHIBITING INFANTS TO BE BAPTISED. But, I can give you a Bible verse on infant baptism if you understand that the Church’s teaching on this subject flows from the Church’s teachings on original sin and the sacrament of baptism.

You said, When you use the verse Acts 2:38, can a baby or infant repent? We are not talking here bro the sin of commision by the baby but the original sin.

The doctrine of original sin is that "in" Adam all have sinned. This parallels the doctrine of justification that "in" Christ all are righteous. Many do not fully understand or appreciate the importance of this parallel and how it weaves through much of Catholic teaching.

We can begin to understand this parallel—namely, through the first Adam all have died and through the second Adam (Christ) all have life—by looking at Romans 5. Verse 12 says that "sin came into the world through one man and death through sin." And look at the evidence throughout verses 15–19: "Many died through one man’s trespass. . . . For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation. . . . Because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man. . . . Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men. . . . By one man’s disobedience many were made sinners."

Look at verse 16: "For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation." Who did it bring condemnation for? Adam only? No—verse 18 says, "Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men" (emphasis added). This is stated even more clearly by the King James rendering the same verse: "Therefore, as by the offense of one, judgment came upon all men to condemnation."

These passages are all about the Church’s doctrine of original sin. Because of Adam’s sin, all men were made subject to sin and death. That is Scripture’s teaching on the doctrine of original sin. That's why Jesus said ‘Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:5]. Does this mean a baby is not included? Where can we find that babies are not included in this statement?

Matud pa nimo Christ was baptized in the age of 30 and he is the perfect example of a true Christian. Then nipadayon pag yud ka
Christ was the example:
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 1 Peter 2:21.

Buot ba nimo ipasabot nga 30 sad ta dapat bunyagan? Unsaon naman lang ang [John 3:5] 'Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’. If mamatay uroy wla pa 33... hehehe... kakuway ana gud.
Asad sad mabasa bro nga ang bata mamatay derecho cya sa langit?

In the New Testament we read that Lydia was converted by Paul’s preaching and that "She was baptized, with her household" (Acts 16:15). The Philippian jailer whom Paul and Silas had converted to the faith was baptized that night along with his household. We are told that "the same hour of the night . . . he was baptized, with all his family" (Acts 16:33). And in his greetings to the Corinthians, Paul recalled that, "I did baptize also the household of Stephanas" (1 Cor. 1:16). So, dba sa usa ka household or family apil man ang mga bata?

Only baptism you've tackled but please refer to the meaning of Baptism, it means immerse not sprinkle in the forehead.

Although the New Testament contains no explicit instructions on how physically to administer the water of baptism, Fundamentalists argue that the Greek word baptizo found in the New Testament means "to immerse." They also maintain that only immersion reflects the symbolic significance of being "buried" and "raised" with Christ (see Romans 6:3-4).

It is true that baptizo often means immersion. For example, the Greek version of the Old Testament tells us that Naaman, at Elisha’s direction, "went down and dipped himself [the Greek word here is baptizo] seven times in the Jordan" (2 Kgs. 5:14, Septuagint, emphasis added).

But immersion is not the only meaning of baptizo. Sometimes it just means washing up. Thus Luke 11:38 reports that, when Jesus ate at a Pharisee’s house, "[t]he Pharisee was astonished to see that he did not first wash [baptizo] before dinner." They did not practice immersion before dinner, but, according to Mark, the Pharisees "do not eat unless they wash [nipto] their hands, observing the tradition of the elders; and when they come from the market place, they do not eat unless they wash themselves [baptizo]" (Mark 7:3–4a, emphasis added). So baptizo can mean cleansing or ritual washing as well as immersion.

A similar range of meanings can be seen when baptizo is used metaphorically. Sometimes a figurative "baptism" is a sort of "immersion"; but not always. For example, speaking of his future suffering and death, Jesus said, "I have a baptism [baptisma] to be baptized [baptizo] with; and how I am constrained until it is accomplished!" (Luke 12:50) This might suggest that Christ would be "immersed" in suffering. On the other hand, consider the case of being "baptized with the Holy Spirit."

In Acts 1:4–5 Jesus charged his disciples "not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, ‘you heard from me, for John baptized with water, but before many days you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’" Did this mean they would be "immersed" in the Spirit? No: three times Acts 2 states that the Holy Spirit was poured out on them when Pentecost came (2:17, 18, 33, emphasis added). Later Peter referred to the Spirit falling upon them, and also on others after Pentecost, explicitly identifying these events with the promise of being "baptized with the Holy Spirit" (Acts 11:15–17). These passages demonstrate that the meaning of baptizo is broad enough to include "pouring."

Kamo bro unsa man inyong pamaagi kung bunyagan ug pila man ang edad?

Shalom!

[rcruman]

You said, When you use the verse Acts 2:38, can a baby or infant repent? We are not talking here bro the sin of commision by the baby but the original sin.

What is original sin, can you find it in the bible? or even the essence of it? Original sin is just a catholic doctrine which will enable to baptize infants.

Bro, word for word you cannot find in the bible ordering the infants to be baptised. In same way also THERE IS NO ORDER IN THE NEW TESTAMENT PROHIBITING INFANTS TO BE BAPTISED. But, I can give you a Bible verse on infant baptism if you understand that the Church’s teaching on this subject flows from the Church’s teachings on original sin and the sacrament of baptism.

Did I say word for word? here's my question: This is just an analogy of yours bro, my question is can you find it in the bible? is encyclopedia a bible? even an essence.

Buot ba nimo ipasabot nga 30 sad ta dapat bunyagan? Unsaon naman lang ang [John 3:5] 'Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’. If mamatay uroy wla pa 33... hehehe... kakuway ana gud.
Asad sad mabasa bro nga ang bata mamatay derecho cya sa langit?

Ngilngiga nimo bro oi, its a example that you're matured enough to be baptized and willing to accept God.

Kamo bro unsa man inyong pamaagi kung bunyagan ug pila man ang edad?

Bunyagan ang tawo kung makadawat na siya sa pulong sa Ginoo og andam na siya mutuman ani og nana siyay pagtoo sa Ginoo.

And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
Isa 53:7
In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
Isa 53:8
And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

Acts 8:30-39.

Dili ni amoa, kundi sa biblia gikan unsaon pagbunyag.
Igo rami nisunod sa biblia og sugo sa Ginoo.

Peace!

[tulisan666]

nganomang naka kotse ang bishop, pari, pope...garbo lagi kaau ug kinabuhi. asa man diay na gikan ila wawart...diba sa bulsa sa mga kabos na nanimba??

mga santos, pista, pasko...dako kaau silag halin noh...

pero ngano mang naay pari sa mga bukid
ambot, basun wala nay pwesto sa syudad.

[eagleseye]

What is original sin, can you find it in the bible? or even the essence of it? Original sin is just a catholic doctrine which will enable to baptize infants.

Ingon ba diay ko nga naa ang original sin sa bible. Dcotrine na cya sa church which nakabase sa mga bible verses. Akong balikon bro ha..

The doctrine of original sin is that "in" Adam all have sinned. This parallels the doctrine of justification that "in" Christ all are righteous. Many do not fully understand or appreciate the importance of this parallel and how it weaves through much of Catholic teaching.

We can begin to understand this parallel—namely, through the first Adam all have died and through the second Adam (Christ) all have life—by looking at Romans 5. Verse 12 says that "sin came into the world through one man and death through sin." And look at the evidence throughout verses 15–19: "Many died through one man’s trespass. . . . For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation. . . . Because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man. . . . Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men. . . . By one man’s disobedience many were made sinners."

Look at verse 16: "For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation." Who did it bring condemnation for? Adam only? No—verse 18 says, "Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men" (emphasis added). This is stated even more clearly by the King James rendering the same verse: "Therefore, as by the offense of one, judgment came upon all men to condemnation."

These passages are all about the Church’s doctrine of original sin. Because of Adam’s sin, all men were made subject to sin and death. That is Scripture’s teaching on the doctrine of original sin. That's why Jesus said ‘Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:5]. Does this mean a baby is not included? Where can we find that babies are not included in this statement?

Did I say word for word? here's my question: This is just an analogy of yours bro, my question is can you find it in the bible? is encyclopedia a bible? even an essence.

Sa akong nang giingon bro, word for word you cannot find in the bible ordering the infants to be baptised that in same way also THERE IS NO ORDER IN THE NEW TESTAMENT PROHIBITING INFANTS TO BE BAPTISED. But, I gave you already the Bible verses as our basis about the baptism of infants. And those verses are not analogy. Ang gipasabot nako nga simple analogy bro is ang akogn example; if you give your baby the most nutritious food and vitamins for her good health without asking her if she likes it or not, how much more sa iyang espiritohanong panglawas. That's why as parental responsibility and love dapat sad nga ihatag ang bunyag sa bata bsan dili pa cya kasabot sakahulugan ug importansya niini.


Bunyagan ang tawo kung makadawat na siya sa pulong sa Ginoo og andam na siya mutuman ani og nana siyay pagtoo sa Ginoo.

Sa pagbasa nako sa imong gihatag na verses (Isa 53:7- wla man ko nakabasa lagi ordering na bunyagan ang tawo kung makadawat na siya sa pulong sa Ginoo og andam na siya mutuman ani og nana siyay pagtoo sa Ginoo. Saysay raman na sa panghitabo nga inyo dayong giapply generally. Mao na bro kay dili man gud makita sa bible nga dagko na ang dapat lang bunyagan...

Ka wala sad klaro ana bro oi nga bunyagan kung makadawat na siya sa pulong sa Ginoo og andam na siya mutuman ani og nana siyay pagtoo sa Ginoo. Unya ug dili na bata nya wla gyud nabunyagan nya namatay because God said 'Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’, unsaon naman na karon bro.

Wala sad ka kapakita nako unsa nga text sa bible na derecho na ang bata sa langit kung mamatay...

Nia pa gyud bro, ang akong gipangayo nimo sa unsa nga paagi kamo bunyagan. Imo man noon kung gihatan sa verses sa bible. Ako lang ang mosabot-sabot adto? Kanang gihimo ninyo karon ba if naa mo bag-o member or anak sa inyong member na bunyagan. ka simple ra ana bro nga question, ang seremonyas ninyo ba.

Shalom!