Ngano man daghan nag lagot sa Networking Business?

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@Dorjan unsa mana nga Company sir para makita gyud nato. makilatis ba.... ana man gyud na dapat..... d ba? sa any kind of business.....

[Dorjan]

Not all network marketing companies are undesirable or illegal. There are legitimate businesses using innovative marketing systems, and should not be lumped together with pyramid schemes.

Some of the specific guidelines to recognize if it is a legitimate network marketing company:

Safeguards - A participant cannot be required to provide any benefit or acquire any commodity in order to become a participant in the scheme, other than the purchase of demonstration equipment which is not for resale, at no more than cost price and for which no commission can be given out. A legitimate multi-level marketing scheme would not impose a financial risk on salespersons. For example, salespersons should be entitled to full refunds, under reasonable commercial terms, for any inventories kept or purchased by them which are not sold to end consumers, so long as the inventories are returned within a period of 60 days.

Behavioural checks - The companies must not misrepresent the scheme as get-rich-quick opportunities, and should not use fraud, coercion, harassment, or unconscionable means to force people to join the scheme. Instead, the companies should focus their efforts on promoting the quality and features of the products. If a company wishes to show potential participants the earning potential, they must keep records of the maximum, minimum, mean, mode and median earnings of their salespeople in the past.

Sharing of commission - It is all right for a salesperson to share commissions from several layers of salespersons recruited by him. However, such commissions must be generated by sale of the product or service in question, and not through the recruitment of additional participants into the scheme.

[Dorjan]

@messerchtmitt

I am not boasting in relation to business, I have been ups and downs including my experience with MLM businesses. We are just a human being, we are not perfect. I learned from failures and mistakes in the past and not trying to put you down as I have tried not to bully somebody else. But the way you reacted on the comments, I may have said against you. I feel being bullied. That's the reason I have posted my reply against you, it's a "Cause and Effect".

Ok sir, I am sorry, it just sounded to me that you are boasting. 20 years of experience, etc2X. You also want to insist that I am lying on having small businesses. Of course, I would be defensive. But I really do not want to settle on that because I know that it is insignificant compared to yours. Anyway, peace. Let us just have productive discussions. I hope you won't look me down again. I am sorry if I may have offended you.

Once again, I never heard an MLM in Singapore except some Filipinos doing it. If there is really a legitimate MLM business in SG, why my Singaporean friend need to go to Manila just to join the business and even introduced it his place.

Sir, all I know, we are operating legally in Singapore. The Ministry of Trade and Industry recognizes that there are legitimate businesses using innovative sales tactics, and should not be lumped together with pyramid schemes. There is an Exclusion Order enacted for insurance businesses, master franchise schemes, and legitimate direct selling and network marketing businesses. They also have released some conditions on what makes a business legal. But of course, you are the one in Singapore, I cannot argue with you on this one.

Who told you that a liability is a bad thing? I agree that part of the employees salary are considered to be a liability but the company is earning a profit out of it. Yes I believe that an entrepreneur is a never ending process. Unfortunately, I never drink milk, I only drink cappuccino and a few rice in a bowl.

Ok, lisod mn jud e define if what is an asset and a liability. So, I know that we will be going nowhere on this issue. Pahabol lang, employees need to earn the status of being an asset. And nowadays, employees will have a harder time earning that status. It is natural for shareholders to feel that employees are liabilities, but that doesn't mean that they really are. Shareholders are just finding better and newer ways to save money. Most of the time, at the expense of our kababayan employees.

You have to understand the people in this forum as I have said that we are coming from different environment, upbringings, growth and beliefs. You cannot pleased everybody. And of course every business may involve money including MLM. Now I have these hard-earned money and the MLM guy invites me to join, then what you are going to do first? Of course, you have to think twice before joining and I'm not like you. I kept on asking questions, I tried to be a devil's advocate trying to dig deeper on what's behind the business before joining. I'm not gonna waste my hard-earned money to a scam. You are fortunate as you have believed that the MLM business you choose is a good one. I have told you I have been invited by numerous MLM presentations and no one was able to convince me.

I understand them just fine. I think I can handle myself. Yes I cannot please everybody and most of you had already known that I am not trying to please anybody mn pd. But I am trying to be civil and professional as I can, and of course I am trying pd to enjoy my stay here (I am willing to play their game), while learning from different kinds of people. I also maintain a healthy level of skepticism all the time. Sir, you think twice before joining and you are not like me? Again with that attitude? Tsk. I am also not going to waste a cent on a scam. I attended seminars like Global Money before it breaks out as illegal, gamay ra ayu ng 1k membership oi pero wala ko. The business is a scam and it is not sustainable. I have predicted then that it will only last for a few months - I was wrong, it lasted less than a month from that time. Global Money is closed now. My reputation and life principles cannot be bought by money, whether you believe it or not.

The people in MLM industry makes me conclude that their businesses is a scam, not just in google. The link I have posted is the Wikipedia besides the other links. In Wikipedia, it also states the negative of the MLM business. What do you want me to do a research? Asking you that is so biased and one-ended? I also considers other tools for my research. You may include some tools like Bing and Yahoo.

Sir, with all due respect, even my younger sister in High School knows that Wikipedia is not a reliable source, ky dili daw mo sugot ang maestra na gikan diha ila research. Anyway, I must agree that many people and companies today are abusing network marketing. Abuse and bad things happen everywhere - not just in network marketing. Politics is much more even tainted than network marketing. But is politics a scam? Are we going to judge all politicians just like that? All I am saying is, the network marketing industry is a good tree. Good trees bear good fruits and also bad fruits, it is all natural - it is part of life. Bad trees never bear good fruits. I have seen a good fruit in this tree. Therefore, this is not a bad tree. I would just use the most popular good fruit in this industry, as an example: Avon.

Hey, I shifted up because I'm trying to make an arguments against on what you believed in MLM.

Yes sir, you shifted from point to point. But at least have some humility to accept some good points I have made. Do not just focus on the small portion of the big picture that is comfortable and favorable to you.

Thank you sir.

[rics zalved]

mas nindot ang TTG (Thirst Thursday Group of Istorya.Net) kaysa networking kay tanang invites mangapil jud.......may pag mamaligya na lang ug buwad pareha ni @superidol..


bitaw, naa ra man jud na sa taw kung linya nila ang networking, naay uban nisuway pero failed, mura ra gud ug nieskuyla ug college, dili haom iya kurso iya napilian, mao fail jud...

[lodyl]

Not all network marketing companies are undesirable or illegal. There are legitimate businesses using innovative marketing systems, and should not be lumped together with pyramid schemes.

Some of the specific guidelines to recognize if it is a legitimate network marketing company:

Safeguards - A participant cannot be required to provide any benefit or acquire any commodity in order to become a participant in the scheme, other than the purchase of demonstration equipment which is not for resale, at no more than cost price and for which no commission can be given out. A legitimate multi-level marketing scheme would not impose a financial risk on salespersons. For example, salespersons should be entitled to full refunds, under reasonable commercial terms, for any inventories kept or purchased by them which are not sold to end consumers, so long as the inventories are returned within a period of 60 days.

Behavioural checks - The companies must not misrepresent the scheme as get-rich-quick opportunities, and should not use fraud, coercion, harassment, or unconscionable means to force people to join the scheme. Instead, the companies should focus their efforts on promoting the quality and features of the products. If a company wishes to show potential participants the earning potential, they must keep records of the maximum, minimum, mean, mode and median earnings of their salespeople in the past.

Sharing of commission - It is all right for a salesperson to share commissions from several layers of salespersons recruited by him. However, such commissions must be generated by sale of the product or service in question, and not through the recruitment of additional participants into the scheme.

Useless lang gihapon ni imohang mga argument diri bai if dili nimo isulti kung unsa nga kompanya imohang gi refer kay so far, sa akoa lang, wala pa ko nakasugat ug MLM company nga parehas anang imohang gi defend/describe...

[Dorjan]

Useless lang gihapon ni imohang mga argument diri bai if dili nimo isulti kung unsa nga kompanya imohang gi refer kay so far, sa akoa lang, wala pa ko nakasugat ug MLM company nga parehas anang imohang gi defend/describe...

My friend that comes from Ministry of Trade and Industry Singapore. That won't be included in the exclusion order of the very strict law that governs illegal network marketing there, for nothing. Why enact an exclusion order for nothing? Singapore is the strictest government for the network marketing industry. That means, good network marketing really do exist. Unless, you are better than most governments and other groups.

I want to make it more general onta. Like evaluating the industry - and not the company. I know where this is going. This is going to be personal. It is like the one I watched in law movies. The other side of the camp results to destroying the person - than sticking to the issue. But anyway, the company is Max International. I never intended to make it a secret mn pd, I just want to abide to the rules set forth here, and I want to maintain a healthy discussion of the industry.

Now, let me predict what you will gonna do, you will gonna make use of the power of Google and search every bad thing you can find about our company. This will all be about the company na. Let me tell you in advance na lang, mga boang na tao exist everywhere, Max International is no exemption. But as far as I am concerned, me and my team are doing our best to do the business professionally, morally, and legally. I know you are dying to ruin my company and make this forum same as usual again. I hope you will not be the same as the networker we both hate so much, in the process. Thank you.

[lodyl]

My friend that comes from Ministry of Trade and Industry Singapore. That won't be included in the exclusion order of the very strict law that governs illegal network marketing there, for nothing. Why enact an exclusion order for nothing? Singapore is the strictest government for the network marketing industry. That means, good network marketing really do exist. Unless, you are better than most governments and other groups.

I want to make it more general onta. Like evaluating the industry - and not the company. I know where this is going. This is going to be personal. It is like the one I watched in law movies. The other side of the camp results to destroying the person - than sticking to the issue. But anyway, the company is Max International. I never intended to make it a secret mn pd, I just want to abide to the rules set forth here, and I want to maintain a healthy discussion of the industry.

Now, let me predict what you will gonna do, you will gonna make use of the power of Google and search every bad thing you can find about our company. This will all be about the company na. Let me tell you in advance na lang, mga boang na tao exist everywhere, Max International is no exemption. But as far as I am concerned, me and my team are doing our best to do the business professionally, morally, and legally. I know you are dying to ruin my company and make this forum same as usual again. I hope you will not be the same as the networker we both hate so much, in the process. Thank you.

Aw, diara raman diay na...... nagpa igot paman jud ka "my friend"...

[firestarter]

Aw, diara raman diay na...... nagpa igot paman jud ka "my friend"...

nyahahaha.. nalingaw nakooooo... lolz....

[Dorjan]

Aw, diara raman diay na...... nagpa igot paman jud ka "my friend"...

Ngek. Ga himo ko thread before gani of all the registered network marketing company in the DSAP. I highlight my company I am with didto. Because I know that this time will come. I am just basing my statements on that company and I don't want to mislead anyone to thinking that all network marketing companies are the same with mine. But then, the thread was closed, wala mn lang notice or warning - it makes me look like that I do not abide to rules, I can edit it mn onta without any fuss. Tyg nalimot mo na allergic ayu mo tanan sa network marketing diri? My friend.

[Dorjan]

nyahahaha.. nalingaw nakooooo... lolz....

nang.gawas na ang ako gipa sabot sa ako mga previous posts... hehe. nyaaahahaha? funny my friend? hehehe.