***truth about jesus christ!

[SioDenz]

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Yes!
you know bro, ang pasabot anang kaluwasan nga imong maangkon are 2 things:

1) Salvation from the slavery of Sin (present)
2) Salvation from eternal death and damnation (after physical death)

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

john 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Kung imong pangutana is akong present salvation, then i would answer YES. Dili nako parehas sa una nga dili mobati or konsensya in committing SIN. murag ang sala sa una normal lang.

Kung imong pangutana salvation after death, then as what Jesus promised in his word, my answer will be YES also! I am confident coz i have trusted him that he is able to give me that eternal life.

I don't see in the Scripture you provide that gave an exact assurance that you are already saved even before the coming of God.
What I saw is the REQUIREMENTS of Salvation, Not a Conclusion of salvation - Because in the end God is the Only one that has the authority to say We are saved or Not And I dont think that day has come.

So when you say you are saved when God did Not mentioned that You are already saved, is that the same as Elevating your human status to being God?

Even if we think we already followed Gods commandments, I think God will still be the one to Judge Us

[marine77]

hoi bogets! wa jud ka kasabot anang buot ipasabot ni mokiloo oi! ang thought sa iya gi sulti is nganu ipamugos nimo imong pagtuo diri nga wala mn ka uyon ang mga taw diri sa imoha? so dapat mo stop naka..

hehehhe---
sige lang gud kung dili mohunong part kay wala mana nanghasul ninyo) i deadma lang gud na.

[marine77]

I don't see in the Scripture you provide that gave an exact assurance that you are already saved even before the coming of God.

kung mao sad nang imong pagsabot, imoha sad na! dili manka makapugos sad sa ubang Christians sa ilang interpretation. Kung ang Ginoo nagsulti nga makabaton ka ug kinabuhing dayon once magtuo ka sa iyaha ug magkinabuhi sa insakto, imong pasabot nga i withdraw sa Ginoo imong salvation?

What I saw is the REQUIREMENTS of Salvation, Not a Conclusion of salvation - Because in the end God is the Only one that has the authority to say We are saved or Not And I dont think that day has come.

respetaran tika sa imong pagsabot pud brod!
Of course tingali kay wala paman ta mamatay but ang verses nga nagsulti ana wala mag-ingon sad nga ihatag ang kaluwasan inig kamatay ra nimo kundi " that ye may know that ye have eternal life" present tense na. So magkinabuhi naka in a way nga naangkon na nimo ang kaluwasan!

So when you say you are saved when God did Not mentioned that You are already saved, is that the same as Elevating your human status to being God?

we will not become God bro!
Thats the lie of Satan! kung nabuka man ang imong third eye, still you are a mortal man. Tinuod that you will feel like god kay naa nakay knowledge of good and evil. But ang result sad ana kay Death of your soul!

Even if we think we already followed Gods commandments, I think God will still be the one to Judge Us

sakto bro.

[SioDenz]

unsa may problema diay ana brod? ang issue is for the salvation of the soul.
pwede raman mo share ka sa imohang enlightenment.
welcome kaayo na diri

Why do we have to talk about Salvation of the Soul where in fact we dont even have the idea or authority to save?
Salvation is a Gift, so why try to talk on how to achieve it if its a gift? Gift dont have requirements, it is given by God and he alone have the idea why...

For me, If our purpose to be a Christian is solely to achieve salvation - then same ra nang istoryaha nga naningkamot ka sa imung eskwela para Ma-Honor and Not to Learn.

[SioDenz]

sakto bro.

Ni agree ka nga God is the only one who can Judge us if naluwas naba ta or wala, nya mu ingun ka luwas naka karun pa lan daan - humana diay ang Judgement?

[marine77]

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Why do we have to talk about Salvation of the Soul where in fact we dont even have the idea or authority to save?

Sharing about Jesus Christ as the way to Salvation is the Christian idea and he has that authority to save us

Salvation is a Gift, so why try to talk on how to achieve it if its a gift? Gift dont have requirements, it is given by God and he alone have the idea why...

Thats right! it is a gift.
It's still have the requirement, accept and believe! how would you obtain if you dont accept that gift?

For me, If our purpose to be a Christian is solely to achieve salvation - then same ra nang istoryaha nga naningkamot ka sa imung eskwela para Ma-Honor and Not to Learn.

we already have that Salvation bro. It was already fulfilled at the cross!
Our purpose is to share that good news of salvation to others who havent heard of it!

[marine77]

Ni agree ka nga God is the only one who can Judge us if naluwas naba ta or wala, nya mu ingun ka luwas naka karun pa lan daan - humana diay ang Judgement?

Again, backread my previous comment.
If we say that we are saved, meaning, for the present we are saved from the bondage of Sin (wala nkay kalipay magpadayon ug buhat ug sala).
After we die, then believe what the Lord promised to those who put their trust in Him, eternal life!

[marine77]

Ni agree ka nga God is the only one who can Judge us if naluwas naba ta or wala, nya mu ingun ka luwas naka karun pa lan daan - humana diay ang Judgement?

wlaa man nimo gihapon masabti ang point bro.

[orochimaru700]

hahaha,,, saktoha sa kadghanan dri oi, gamay gyud diay kaau kag utok! tsk tsk tsk... wla ko nagtuo ana diay na kagamay imoha dha! hahaha, media? owsss... d ka mutuo ug news? aha ka tuo? sa imong belief nga useless? non-sense and especially assuming ka nga naluwas nka? hahaha... gamaya gyud oi, gamay pas ginamos loy...

what a pity, tsk tsk tsk...

tawn pud. heheheh---
For your information, ang Christians part mas mao pay advance ug knowledge about sa mga panghitabo sa kalibutan karon kaysa imoha nga kung unsay gi feed sa media (controlled by the ruling elite) mao ra sad ang imong nahibaw-an! perteng luoya nimo part.

Wala ka kabalo nga giluto raka sa imong kaugalingong mantika anang mga propaganda sa politika?

[orochimaru700]

Christians part mas mao pay advance ug knowledge

post ug link daw kanang reliable sa imong gpang yawit dha nga binutbot, hahaha...

cge rakag ataki ug lain religion dha, again... gamay titing utok, it's just so happen you were born a Christian! and na sobraan naka sa ka fanatic, pataka ra kag yawit, search for the truth, true christians, blah blah blah... tawn pud nmo loy, dili ingon ana kadali ma ilad ang mga taw dri, mas utokan pa mi nmo, lolz