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  1. #1381

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    Quote Originally Posted by marine77 View Post
    wala man blema part kung ang usa ka zeal is anchored to what we call the truth! Christians claimed that Jesus is the way, TRUTH and the life...so naa mi rason nga mo stand sa among gi claim nga truth!
    How about the other side nga igo lang motira then walay bisan usa ka verse or resource nga gi quote?

    Delikado sad baya nang term nga inspiration part kay naa man sad daghan nagclaim ana gud then only to discredit the credibility of the Lord Jesus Christ!

    Usa pud, during the old testament times daghan ang laing-laing ginoo nga gi worship sa mga tawo but God the father will always intervene by revealing his power sa ilaha and those false gods were defeated. So dili ta makaingon nga ang tanang giila nga ginoo bisan sa atong panahon mouyon sa Ginoo sa bibliya!
    hehehe..naka hinumdom hinoon ko. "Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites!" These Jews were so arrogant because they claimed they have the TRUTH, because they have the Book, the TORAH! They have known God's law. Who is to blame them? are they not the Chosen Ones?

    Are we only to accept INSPIRATIONS provided they will conform to our belief because we are afraid they might attack the credibility of Jesus?

    your third point, allow mi to quote in Arabic. Asshaduhan Lah ilalah ilahah, Asshaduhan Mohamador Rasulalah. There is no other God but Allah. And Mohammed is the messenger of God. Now, how does this conflict with the God of the Bible? You refer God as the Father. And Jesus is the Son of God. Can I safely say, you believe in the Trinity? But there is only One God right?

  2. #1382

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    Quote Originally Posted by orochimaru700 View Post
    sa answer pa lang niya daan nga logically YES obvious ky ang motive ani marine77, ma ila gyud unsa ka nga pagkatawo, one-sided ang pang huna huna.. cgeg sulti ug TRUE Christian... blah blah blah.. how bout counteron ka sa mga islams, buddhists ug TRUE Muslims, or TRUE Buddhists? unsaon na nmo pag respond?
    hahahhahaa. sayon ra cguro na niya part..ingnon ra niya ang muslim nga wala sila sa bibiliya dili sila maluwas...ingnon pud siya sa muslim wala sad mo sa koran.. hahahhahaa..endless war...

  3. #1383

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    hahahaha mao lagi, one-sided ra na si marine77 or na sobraan na ka fanatic sa Christian, sus maryusep nimo marine77, ug ikaw pay na Santopaps, este Santo papa sa vatican, mo declare cguro kag religious war to non-Christians!

    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    hahahhahaa. sayon ra cguro na niya part..ingnon ra niya ang muslim nga wala sila sa bibiliya dili sila maluwas...ingnon pud siya sa muslim wala sad mo sa koran.. hahahhahaa..endless war...

  4. #1384

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    gatan-aw ba ka ug CNN or BBC news marine77, katong grabi ang mga bomba or mga terrorist plot sa Al Qaeda sa US led by Osama Bin Laden, how many times cya nag pa video sa Al Jazeera always saying

    “Every Muslim, from the moment they realize the distinction in their hearts, hates American, hates Jews, and hates Christians. This is a part of our belief and our religion.”

    Osama believes that it is the sacred duty of every Muslim to wage holy war (jihad) on all non-Muslims until they submit to Muslim rule. This belief also arises from several Quranic passages:

    Sura 2; Verse 216: Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

    Sura 9; Verse 29: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.


    unya marine77 unsay ikasulti nmo ani? hahaha, mkig Holy War ka? bawi-on na nmo imo Logically speaking YES?
    Last edited by orochimaru700; 04-23-2012 at 10:06 PM.

  5. #1385

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantaleon View Post
    pinoy_09! Anti-christ!!!! Ma imperno gyud ka inig abot sa ginoo!!! pang hinulsul na sa imong mga sala!!!
    amen brad! sakit pud na uie.. Ginoo insultohon

  6. #1386

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    hala gusto mo lusot...
    akong pangutana----->so tanang tawo nga dili mo tuo ug nag deny ni Christ nga Ginoo kay lagi dili kristiano like Muslims, Buddhists, taoists , wiccans, fastaparian, sanitarian, librarian etc are all anti-Christ? I'm just following your logic..

    imong tubag--->logically speaking, YES! parehas ra sad kung modeny ko kang Vishnu or Buddha nga dili sila tinuod. Anti-gihapon term ana! sayon ra kayo na sabton.
    hehehhe molusot ka?
    asa may nilusot ana? imong gi accuse nila is SATANAS na SILA! kasabot baka sa imong gisulti or gilibog-libog lang nimo imong kaugalingon?

    Pure reason is taht kung ang usa ka tawo ni against sa usa ka butang, of course matawag jud na siya nga anti! unsa man diay nga maayong term nimo ana?
    Last edited by marine77; 04-24-2012 at 01:12 PM.

  7. #1387

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    Quote Originally Posted by orochimaru700 View Post
    ^ ^ hahaha komedyante man sad diay ni si marine77
    how bout this marine77, IF and IF ever assuming ang assuming to the highest level gpanganak ka nga Muslim [islam]
    then your Koran says Allah is the only way to heaven, and since mka dungog ka ug mga pulong sa mga Christians that claiming Lord Jesus Christ is the only messiah... Question: How will you respond to that?
    reminder: straight forward answer only..
    Para nako, simple I will search for the truth!
    don't you know nga most muslims that converted to christianity dunay experiences like dreams or visions of Christ which compels them to search who Jesus was?

    Ug kabalo ba ka nga sa ubang muslim countries dunay compulsion of religion in which kung ikaw nga muslim mo convert to christianity, ipapatay ka sa imong pagbalhin?
    Last edited by marine77; 04-24-2012 at 01:12 PM.

  8. #1388

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    when it comes to religion, wla'y sakto ug wala sa'y sayop. we all have our own beliefs. Wala jud magdaon ani na thread. Broad ra pud kau ang religion para debatehan

  9. #1389

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    Quote Originally Posted by marine77 View Post
    Pana nako, simple I will search for the truth! ?
    Unya nag-sugod na ka bro ug search o naka-confirm na ka ug unsay truth?

    don't you know nga most muslims that converted to christianity dunay experiences like dreams or visions of Christ which compels them to search who Jesus was? ?
    Mao ni klase sa proselytization nga lisod tuhoan kon tinuod ka nga Muslim, ngano man? Tungod kay ang Qur’an clearly tells who Jesus is in Islam unya ang imong statement nagpasabot nga ang mga Muslims wala maka-ila o maka-hibalo kon kinsa si Jesus!

    Here are some of the Muslim’s beliefs about Jesus Christ (pbuh) based on the Qur’an:

    He was a Prophet and humble servant of God to the people of Israel."Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God makes His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!" (5:75).

    "And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: 'Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?' He will say: 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things'" (5:116-117).

    He was born of a Virgin Mother. He cannot be called a son of God just because he was born of a Virgin Mother, for if that’s what we will categorize him; Adam is more worthy to be called a son of God because he was born without a mother and a father. So, Islam eliminated that concept by declaring that “God begetteth not nor is He begotten” (Qur’an 114:3). Dili na mag-lalis ang mga Muslims ana bro ug dili sab mo-ingon ang mga Muslims nga mga anak sila sa Dios.

    He did not die on the cross.“ That they said (in boast) "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary the Apostle of Allah"; but they killed him not nor crucified him but so it was made to appear to them and those who differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) knowledge but only conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not.” Qur’an 4:157

    He performed miracles by the will of God.

    His Teachings is in line with all the Prophets of God that is “BELIEVE in ONE GOD” -
    "When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: 'Now I have come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which you dispute. Therefore, fear God and obey me. God, He is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him -- this is a Straight Way.' But sects from among themselves fell into disagreement. So woe to the wrongdoers, from the penalty of a Grievous Day!" (43:63-65)


    Ug kabalo ba ka nga sa ubang muslim countries dunay compulsion of religion in which kung ikaw nga muslim mo convert to christianity, ipapatay ka sa imong pagbalhin?
    That is still remains to be proven. Naa tay makita/madungog nga mga balita nga ingon ani sama adtong sa afghanistan pero questionable pa to kay ang nag-sigi ug advertize mga Christians nga aktibo sa ilang evangelization. But the truth remains that there is no compulsion in Islam. Kon mohawa ka sa Islam ok rana oi, pero kon mo-engage ka ug rebellion against sa established shari’a government kay lagi mihawa ka na sa Islam, aw lahi na na!

  10. #1390

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmer1384 View Post
    when it comes to religion, wla'y sakto ug wala sa'y sayop. we all have our own beliefs. Wala jud magdaon ani na thread. Broad ra pud kau ang religion para debatehan
    Naay sakto ug naay sayop, its just that way mu angkon nga sayop sila kay most of us post here to DEFEND our belief, we are NOT here to find the Truth.

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