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  1. #51

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    ^^kay dili ra man ako ang nahatagan nimo ug lain nga meaning sa amung gipang-post..mao na ako gi-coment...n recomend nila....dli lagi tanan na record sa Bible..mao na nga na-a mi gitawag ug tradition....and my opinion again about aning Great flood.wala gyud ni nahitabo kay its still written in the old testament..its only a story with a good lesson...kinahanglan pa ba diay ko mangita ug asa ngaverse gikan ang akong hunahuna? i dont think so....

  2. #52

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    peace be wtih you mga bro..

  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiArcher
    ^^si RCRUMAN na-ay kaugalingon nga dictionary jawbreaker...palit ka sa ilang bookstore and if mag post si rcruman....basaha ang meaning sa imung gipalit nga dictionary...
    mulenggg... naa sad syay laing meaning gani sa word na perfect

    Youre wrong on that my friend, i didn't base my belief on your belief....
    I just used the bible as my basis


    mr.bibledude, are you sure you understand what FIDEISM means?
    it means your kind of faith.... people whos faith are based solely on one source and neglect or dismissed everything else except one. and thats what your faith is.... a closed one, dependent only in the bible. you dont consider the other definition of FAITH... you think faith is related or exercised in god and god alone.
    anyways this is useless... coz you are a fideist.


  4. #54

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    Call me whatever you want.
    Did i just use the bible alone when I site my faith?
    I use the bible but for you I will use also earthly books to show you that it was.
    I gave you the meaning of Faith in the encyclopedia but you rejected because it tackle about God again.
    Then give me a meaning not from your own or basis about faith.

    Peace!

  5. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    Then give me a meaning not from your own or basis about faith.

    Peace!


    ...hellewwww... mura man ta anig way basahay... post dretso.,,,, hahaaayyy

    Although faith has generated many roots in religion, it is not necessarily a religious word and is not exercised solely in God and god alone, but can apply to any situation where judgments are made irrespective of evidence.

    Faith in something means to have experience with that something and then, due to this experience, judging and concluding so that you can predict an action of this something in a positive way. So for example a sister may leave the house for university, she returns in three years time to find her sister has not opened her diary which she explicitly asked her not to, even though her sister had every opportunity to open it without her knowledge or consent. The older sister would now have faith in the younger sister, judging by that experience she concludes that she can predict that anything else she trusts with here sister is safe. This is faith.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith
    Another form of this kind of faith is fideism: one ought to believe that God exists, but one should not base that belief on any other beliefs; one should, instead, accept it without any reasons at all.

    and that's your kind of FAITH

    I gave you the meaning of Faith in the encyclopedia but you rejected because it tackle about God again
    that's what makes you a fideist..... you based your meaning of the word to god. dude faith is not a religious word. again let me quote "Although faith has generated many roots in religion, it is not necessarily a religious word and is not exercised solely in God and god alone, but can apply to any situation where judgments are made irrespective of evidence."

  6. #56

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    it is not necessarily a religious word and is not exercised solely in God and god alone,

    Then give me the meaning not from your own word.
    That's why I'm keep on saying I have faith in God and you don't.


    Peace!

  7. #57

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    Then give me the meaning not from your own word.
    mr.bibledude bisay-on nako ha aron makasabot ka ha?... naunsa naman tawn ka... kana bitaw akong gihatag nimo nga tubag gikan or kinotlo na sa site na imong gihatag ganina http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith and dili na my own words. hinumdumi ikaw ang naghatag sa site.
    KASABOT NA KA

    That's why I'm keep on saying I have faith in God and you don't.
    bisay-on gihapon nako ha aron makasabot gyud ka.. ha?
    mao bitaw na ingon ko nimo nga fideist ka kay dili ka mo uyon na ang meaning sa faith dili lang para sa ginoo.
    basa: kinutlo gikan sa basahon nga imong gihatag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith
    "Although faith has generated many roots in religion, it is not necessarily a religious word and is not exercised solely in God and god alone, but can apply to any situation where judgments are made irrespective of evidence."
    "Another form of this kind of faith is fideism: one ought to believe that God exists, but one should not base that belief on any other beliefs; one should, instead, accept it without any reasons at all."

    wala ko mag-ingon nga sayop ka ha? illogical lang kaayo ang imong pagamit sa FAITH kay di na nimo taga-an ug importansya o gibug-aton ang ubang meaning... ang meaning nga ang natural nga tao makasabot (human comprehension). kay ang imong dili man natural---> supernatural man.
    basa: gikan kinutlo gikan sa bsahon nga imong gihatag ug dili ako http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith
    "faith refers to belief beyond evidence or logical arguments"
    ang akong faith mao ni
    kinutlo gikan sa basahon nga imong gihatag nga gabalibalik na kog paste http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith
    "Although faith has generated many roots in religion, it is not necessarily a religious word and is not exercised solely in God and god alone, but can apply to any situation where judgments are made irrespective of evidence."

    nakasabot na ka?

    Peace!
    Pagmata!

  8. #58

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    nakasabot na ka?

    Nakasabot bitaw ko bai, ang ako pud pangutana naa ba kay laing meaning or source nga mapakita or mapost about the meaning of faith aside from my link posted.
    Kay ang imo gihatag ang example man nimo sa "girl niadtog college then naa siya igsoon...."
    I want to have meaning or another source from you because I've given you the meaning faith in the Bible that Faith is a substance that is things that we hoped for.

    So here's your meaning of faith:
    Faith in something means to have experience with that something and then, due to this experience, judging and concluding so that you can predict an action of this something in a positive way.

    But the word I've qouted from encyclopedia is:
    but can apply to any situation where judgments are made irrespective of evidence.
    So its clear its not physical because you can't judge irrespective of evidence, but for you it must be experience with that something, you're example of "a sister and the book" is a reality when she found out that the book was not opened when he came back after three years.

    Peace!

  9. #59

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    I want to have meaning or another source from you because I've given you the meaning faith in the Bible that Faith is a substance that is things that we hoped for.

    there are a lot of sites that talks about faith as the basis of human knowledge but i'd rather not, the site you gave is more than enough to prove that faith doesn't evolve in god alone. wikipedia is a very reliable source, and besides you posted this site why look for another?

    Faith is a substance that is things that we hoped for
    hope for something that we know aint so.
    like the black cat story. tsk-tsk-tsk.

    So its clear its not physical because you can't judge irrespective of evidence,
    yes it is clear... it is also called faith, coz faith dont deal with god alone.
    if something deals about the human psych like the human thought, like when human guesses or predicts something, unseen activities, doesnt necessary mean it's religious... do you agree?
    otherwise if we judge something unseen like the human thought as religious then there is no reason for people to study psychology, psychiatry or anything that deals with the human mind.
    that's why we have this studies of the human psych because religion cannot supply the answers. if we take this out, i'm sure we will create a huge headache of human existence.
    the only answer god can give if someone disagrees on him is "oh he is being manifested by satan".
    heelleeerrrr?!


    wake up!

  10. #60

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    RCRUMAN ....

    Fafa ... panagsa ra ko mo sud ug diskusyon sa RELIGION / BIBLE / FAITH and etc . Naa ko questions nimo na gusto ko makahibalo personally sa tubag nimo na DIRECT and dont give me links of verses and passages kung ok ra nimo . If natubag na niom for the NTH time , itubag lang gihapon ko kay tapulan ko moreasearch kay wala koy power karon .

    - Unsa ang religion nimo ?
    - Unsa ang bible na gamit nimo ?
    - Unsa ang pagsabot nimo sa bibliya ? Seems to me it is literally understood maybe not by you but your congregation in general ( Bro Edi ) .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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