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  1. #1271

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    Quote Originally Posted by siobhan kelly View Post
    i believe that there is no absolute privacy in the internet. Take note, not all ur friends in fb are ur true or real friends. If ur friends in fb can see ur pic, there is a tendency that he or she will save the pic and uplod it publicly.. take note anyone can simply right click the pic, click save as and save the pic..
    there's a privacy settings in facebook.

    and will fb pics qualify as evidence? The question also is, are all the nuns and school admins really investigating the facebook pics on each student? Is that part of their job to investigate and police every student's affair outside the school?

    If someone or one of your friend posted a picture of your hacked fb account and the picture showed you were smoking marijuana with eyes closed lying down like sleeping and with all your friends circling around you laughing was also in the picture. And truly you were just drunk on that event and got passed out and never smoke marijuana but your friends made a practical joke on you and someone with a bad motive hacked your fb account and posted the pic made it public and submitted to the police with anonymous name. And you're fired from work and put to jail bec. of that pic, will that say justice is served? Will you feel justified and deserving of such penalty?

  2. #1272

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    Quote Originally Posted by juknojukno View Post
    I stand against your opinion that there's no total privacy in the internet. With your statement it means that a person who owns the fb account has already waived his/her privacy rights? No, the fb account is under your name, under your age, under your own password.
    We are talking privacy sa ilang gipang post, dili ang personal info nila. Again as what I've said, FB POSTS IS PUBLIC BY DEFAULT. When you signed up in facebook or any forums or social networking sites, you signed on their agreement and their privacy policy. Without knowing that is not an excuse.

    Control each time you post

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    Quote Originally Posted by juknojukno View Post
    Ok noted. But will that be justifiable to the person who owns the pic?
    If you are a member of a congregation where you are bounded by rules and you agreed on it so it is justifiable to impose any sanction whether it maybe good to you or not. That's being fair. Again, if we take the school as the congregation, they can impose the maximum penalty of expulsion as what other schools do. Hence, being barred from joining the graduation rites is just and fair. Kung buhaton sad sa uban students unsay ilang violations, makabawi pa kaha ang school kung lenient sila sa ilang mga sanctions? Have we heard they apologized? They can even received their diploma. Maayo pa gani sila kaysa uban na na expel nga mga students and even didn't graduate at all pero wala man naguba ilang ugma.

    Quote Originally Posted by juknojukno View Post
    Oh come on, We all have skeletons in our closet and dark secrets in our life. Now here's my question and opinion. The STC policy has a flaw. why?

    1) It was never mentioned who will police the students
    2) It was never mentioned and specified that any form of evidence of the violation can be accepted as legit and valid regardless of who presented and reported and submitted the evidence


    Mao bitaw ang court naay cross examination sa witness and evidence para ma verify nga legit and vaid dili kay illegal pagka acquire ang evidence, bec. illegally acquired evidence will nullify it's validity.

    the student's privacy outside the school and the invasion of privacy must be also constitutional, meaning should not violate the gov't LAW.


    Ok assuming it's the school admins nuns,home room advicer and etc... are allowed to report for any violation of the students outside the school granting that these school personnel are able to see the actual acts performed. But with pictures submitted to the school personnel by a different source is a different story, bec. STC personnel have no right to invade a minor persons private life.

    Mao bitaw naay search warrant ang ato LAW sa pinas kay dili maski kinsa ang maka hilabot sa imo mga personal stuffs even your own account sa internet and even cell phone. STC have never thought of their action that it was a violation of privacy of the minor student bec. they (STC) have have no right to invade a persons privacy.


    tanawa ni Admissibility of Evidence

    go to III A.

    or here what it says:

    III. Principles which exclude relevant or material evidence:


    A. The Exclusionary Rule Principle - the principle which mandates that evidence obtained from an illegal arrest, unreasonable search or coercive investigation, or in violation of a particular law, must be excluded from the trial and will not be admitted as evidence.
    1. The principle judges the admissibility of evidence based on HOW the evidence is obtained or acquired and not WHAT the evidence proves.

    Pag acquire lang daan sa evidence illegal na, nya dapat ang kato girl nga ni submit sa picture(s) will present herself to further prove the validity of the evidence and explain how she acquired it.


    This issue is not anymore about morality of the girls and school's policy. IT'S ABOUT THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS THAT IS VIOLATED.
    We can't really say nga illegal ang pag acquire sa pictures. Ang school niingon nga naay nisumbong nila nga students nga nakakita sa picture. Kay nakakita man its either public profile ang accounts nga anyone makakita or restricted to fb friends wherein friend ang nisumbong. Dili ang school officials ang nag acquire sa pictures, gi handed over ra ni sa students nga nisumbong so I think it is still a valid evidence. As we all know anything you post publicly will be used against you. Bisag diri sa forums. They posted lewd photos in internet, a clear violation of their schools' policy. The hacking allegation is another issue but dili ko motoo nga gi hack ang ilang accounts as what I've explained on previous posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by juknojukno View Post
    there's a privacy settings in facebook.

    and will fb pics qualify as evidence? The question also is, are all the nuns and school admins really investigating the facebook pics on each student? Is that part of their job to investigate and police every student's affair outside the school?

    If someone or one of your friend posted a picture of your hacked fb account and the picture showed you were smoking marijuana with eyes closed lying down like sleeping and with all your friends circling around you laughing was also in the picture. And truly you were just drunk on that event and got passed out and never smoke marijuana but your friends made a practical joke on you and someone with a bad motive hacked your fb account and posted the pic made it public and submitted to the police with anonymous name. And you're fired from work and put to jail bec. of that pic, will that say justice is served? Will you feel justified and deserving of such penalty?
    Regarding above scenario, that will be a battle of technicalities. On how they check evidence such as edited pictures. Pero dili man ni ma apply sa ani nga case. The students acknowledged the pictures and even a parent said nga there's nothing wrong with using a cigarette while holding a bottle of alcohol nga as a parent okay ra para niya. So walay practical joke, hacking and posting of edited pictures nga nahitabo. Sila mismo nag upload sa ilang own accounts.
    Last edited by cliff_drew; 04-04-2012 at 10:36 AM.

  3. #1273

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    Quote Originally Posted by GemWArrioR View Post
    Sakto ba ang dili pagsunod sa TRO mag comment ka pa, sayop pa jud ang spelling, ako ng gihighlight diha.. ang sakto GRAVE offense.. tsk tsk tsk
    OT b*tch please! para kana lang!? wala na gyud ka nasayop sa imong tibuok kinabuhi?! i know the difference between grave and grieve, it's an honest mistake! basaha daw tanan nko post sa istorya para kita ka that im not some dumb person you take me for. helas lagi ka. and obviously you dint frackin get my post, ingon ko DILI SAKTO NGA WLA SILA NISUNOD SA TRO, CAPESH?

  4. #1274

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    For me lang ha, i suspect there is a negotiation between the parents of the misbehaving girls and sa judge, base from the ruling of the judge na its precisely bias in favor sa girl even sa grades of the girls gihilabtan pa. I know my opinion borders conspiracy theories but i know a few here share my line of thoughts. whether its political nature or not, the fact that the judge mind bogglingly step out of the case makes me think naay truth to that theory.
    You read my mind.

    Not also discounting the fact that the basis for issuing the TRO remains sketchy to this day. You know, besides "Graduation is one of the most important events any student could have in his/her life. Denying them graduation is 'damaging'". Please.

  5. #1275

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    Quote Originally Posted by siobhan kelly View Post
    i believe that there is no absolute privacy in the internet. Take note, not all ur friends in fb are ur true or real friends. If ur friends in fb can see ur pic, there is a tendency that he or she will save the pic and uplod it publicly.. take note anyone can simply right click the pic, click save as and save the pic..
    I definitely agree with this... and I told my female friends 100x about this... some girls are just too dumb to post too sexy pictures of them in their facebook the next time they know its already in kaplog.com or boytikol.com. WTF....

  6. #1276

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    The angle that STC 'hacked' into their facebook accounts is moot. It was their fellow classmates who submitted the photos to the STC admin, thinking the photos were 'un-theresian'. The 'killjoys', in other words.

  7. #1277

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    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...9243365&type=1

    Bang!!! toa na... talking about protecting these minors....

  8. #1278

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    ahak di ko kakita kay blocked ang fb diri... hehe

  9. #1279

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    The sad part is... people are basing their opinions to that picture alone.....

    as of this time, i can say the purpose of their fellow theresian who reported the so called un-thresian photos is to demolished the 5 girls reputation... I dont know why but it seems to me its the same person who spreads the picture all over the net. it seems STC is not only the recipient of the photo...
    Last edited by ®ecycle bin; 04-04-2012 at 04:31 PM.

  10. #1280

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    @®ecycle bin
    Gi post nana earlier bai. No alcohol bottle, no cigarette, no "dirty dancing", no man putting his leg between a girl's thighs. This photo is not it.

    @juknojukno
    Ni log-in rako to say that I appreciate your providing us a POV on the legal aspect of this issue. It fits perfectly sa article ni Dean Raul Pangalangan.

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