MERGED: Vigilantism and related issues

[slyder10]

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vigilantes are like robinhood. he stole food from the rich to give to the poor. is he a hero or a criminal? who gaves the vigilantes the authority to kill? the mayor? vice mayor? governor? people say that criminals just come and go out of prison. why? maybe there's something wrong with our law or justice system. maybe, the flaw is in the law... who makes the law and why is it flawed? we all know that drug couriers that goes to china are given the death penalty, why more people still doing it? even if you kill all the criminals everyday, it doesn't eliminate the problem. the main cause of the problem is the system. unless the system is fixed, there will always be problems. no vigilantes nor robinhood can fix it. how long did davao had their vigilantes? a long long time ago. are they crime free? not in your wildest dreams.

[chris_bern]

vigilantes are like robinhood. he stole food from the rich to give to the poor. is he a hero or a criminal? who gaves the vigilantes the authority to kill? the mayor? vice mayor? governor? people say that criminals just come and go out of prison. why? maybe there's something wrong with our law or justice system. maybe, the flaw is in the law... who makes the law and why is it flawed? we all know that drug couriers that goes to china are given the death penalty, why more people still doing it? even if you kill all the criminals everyday, it doesn't eliminate the problem. the main cause of the problem is the system. unless the system is fixed, there will always be problems. no vigilantes nor robinhood can fix it. how long did davao had their vigilantes? a long long time ago. are they crime free? not in your wildest dreams.

in your statement you are talking about perfectionism which in real world cannot be attain..

the issue why majority of pipol even in cebu idolizes the vigilantism just like what happen in davao until today because of the fact that DAVAO has MINIMAL CRIMES because of this existing vigilantism..

if u can stay in davao for at least a month u can understand what I am saying..

davao has always been aggressive in making their place peaceful and prosperous for many years under the management of the duterte's, davao also is popular for its police force in our nation despite of being small in numbers because they managed to lessen the crimes at minimal as possible..

and the vigilantes that is spreading in the entire davao is actually true for there are indeed davaoenos that can attest that this vigilante groups exist and they want to stay it in secret identity so that davao will always have LESS CRIMES as much as possible..

[lhorenzoo]

just hoping that the local police force in cebu will act and be up to the task of keeping the streets safe so that no one will be forced to rake the law into their own hands.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Huh what? Bai extreme ra kaayo na imong huna-huna oi. When I say we all do crazy shit, of course I don't mean we've all raped, stabbed or killed someone when we were minors. We are all adults here, let's use practicality when understanding where each one is coming from. What I'm trying to get at is that kids don't have the same mind for analysis as adults. Now, with respect to those serious crimes, yea it's disturbing ain't it when kids commit serious crime like murder. But then again, how many of these serious crimes are committed by minors? That's why I asked for figures.

It dont matter if its one or 20 . The point is that , it was committed and it is existent regardless who did it mapa adult or a minor . Let say someone committed a heinous crime against you or to your loved ones , mo matter pa ba kung minor or adult ang ga buhat regardless if its a suspect pa lang or convicted na ? It has a common denominator , damage was done and from where I come from , someone must pay dues .

Now , on the part of being young and has committed some crazy shit , if it never even sounded like maski mamaregla ,mangawat or mo sexually harass .... kung comparable lang diay sa acts similar to " JACKASS " then it is not worth to be called CRAZY SHIT but instead , what is more appropriate is STUPID SHIT , no more and no less .

If a juvenile commits murder are you sure they will serve their sentence in a juvenile center? Even when they turn 18? I'll ask my GF about this, cos she's the expert on juvenile justice act.

Asa man diay na sila dalhon ? Dili ba sa Argao ? Well you can ask your GF , maybe she has something add and we can learn from .

OK I understand what you mean now. Just because a police officer is the one doing the killing, does not mean he can't be considered a vigilante. Definition of vigilante just means extra-judicial killings outside the law, whether done by a citizen or an enforcement officer.

Now we are talking . Is it because the media is trying to identify that the supposed to be vigilante is a controversial cop na itago lang nato sa ngalan na Dumpit ? Bai .... however nato ibali bali ang storya , wala na ma prove gyud . Dead man tell no tales . Remember Alemar's claims na siya pa ang naka pusil ni Dumpit daw instead na siya unta ang target mao ni tago kadyot sa Davao mao pag uli Cebu ga takiang ? Claims doesnt justify the means if di siya ma proven .

Well that would be murder unless it's self defense. And what kind of criminal are we talking about. AThis also a chicken and egg dilemma. Since vigilante killing itself is a serious crime, does that justify vigilante killing of the vigilante killer?

It dont matter , what the VIGILANTE are doing would be so fitting in a way you yourself would do if you are in the situation where
you need to do something because someone , somewhere out there will definitely be your worst nightmare . Luckily for you , there are people doing it VIGILANTE STYLE for you .

@CLIFF DREW .....

Walay na priso either walay witness or naay witness pero dili ganahan mo testigo kay hadlok sad patyon. yes, it's a big possibility nga daghang patay nga gamiton ang vigilante style.

Of course mao gyud na ang ato i assume because we are tied up in the notion kung unsay gi feed sa atoa . Like I said na wala tubaga gyud .... ngano naa man sa limelight ang VIGILANTE KILLING instead of talking about VIGILANTE STYLE KILLING ? Wala na ka prove pa gyud sa VIGILANTE and that puts us in the position of talking about it and that answers your idea ngano walay na priso pa . Of course walay maka aidentify sa " VIGILANTE " doing some " VIGILANTE STYLE KILLING " kay kanus-a man nahitabo na wala ga taptap ni sila ?

What if atraso ra diay to ,a typical day na naminusan lang ang mga elemento na di angay buhion aning kalibutana ? Let them kill each other .

[superidol]

@superidol,

Have you known a fil-chinese nurse killed recently in Davao? Can we say that the place is still safe? Naa gihapon mga snatchers/robbers sa Davao pero mostly wala nabalita kay walay ni report.

My question is this, why man sa ubang lugar lower ang crime rate bisag walay vigilante?

Yes, nka basa ko ana nga new regarding sa Fil-chinese but theres no such thing as 100% safe place. Pro ang Davao, 2ngod sa elang mga Vigilanti.. gmay ra ang crime rate.. just what I stated in my previous post.. wla pay lugar nga 0% crime. Para mo gmay ug samot hang2d ma hurot na ang crime, dpat full upport jd ta sa mga Vigilante or Shoot to kill sa pag hipos sa mga criminal.Sa Davao nag ka gamay nlng jd na ang crime dha. F mangita ka ug evidence, naay mga news nga nag cge ug balik2x sa mga police report regarding sa crime rate sa davao, naay mga testimony sa mga tawo qng unsa elang observation while naa cla sa Davao..

Cge, panganli kuno na imong ge ingon.. nga "ubang lugar lower ang crime rate bisag walay vigilante" .. I hope kana imong ge ingon nga "ubang lugar".. City jd na, dli lng province2x, barangay2x or sityo2x lng..

[superidol]

vigilantes are like robinhood. he stole food from the rich to give to the poor. is he a hero or a criminal? who gaves the vigilantes the authority to kill? the mayor? vice mayor? governor? people say that criminals just come and go out of prison. why? maybe there's something wrong with our law or justice system. maybe, the flaw is in the law... who makes the law and why is it flawed? we all know that drug couriers that goes to china are given the death penalty, why more people still doing it? even if you kill all the criminals everyday, it doesn't eliminate the problem. the main cause of the problem is the system. unless the system is fixed, there will always be problems. no vigilantes nor robinhood can fix it. how long did davao had their vigilantes? a long long time ago. are they crime free? not in your wildest dreams.

sir, Davao is absolutely not crime free... but just try to look at there Crime Rate and Compare it from other places here in the Phil..

[ambokz]

^^tuara! btw:wla pmana ma wla cla,naa pman ghapon na till now....kung naa moy ipa hipos,tgaan ra nmo clag picture hipos jud na,kay sagbot daw na cla sa katilingban.hehe

[ethan12]

Yes to Vigilantism... para makaton nang mga abosado sa syudad!!!

[phoqscofield]

nig tungtung ni tomas balik mayor ds coming 2013.. murag mubalik nani ang vigilante

[EviLHigH]

dli jud ko uyon anah..... ky wla clay katungod na mo patay og tao.......