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  1. #2011

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    SO back to the topic, based sa atung badget ug Priorities, Kinahanglan ba jud mu palit tag f-16's? naay maka hatag ug hard data ani para sad naa tay idea.

    If maka afford ta, pila sad kaha kabuok mapalit natu?
    current program karon sa airforce is LIFT (Lead-In Fighter Trainer)

    Asia Times Online :: Philippines builds anti-China muscle

    Candidates: T/A-50 Golden Eagle and Alenia Aermacchi M-346

    So before mo acquire ang govt nato ug F16 mo acquire pa cla ug 6 trainers. Since it will take time(2-3 years) jud mag train ug multirole aircraft thats why we need it ASAP. Behind na kaayo ta in terms of pilot skills.
    Last edited by flanker; 03-13-2012 at 01:48 PM.

  2. #2012

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Considering the expenses and budgets we have?

    Every country man jud NEED na pero if mu consider ka sa gasto sa pag maintain ug ang badget sa nasud or ang priorities ba karun, maka ingun ba ta nga Dapat jud F-16's or MIGS?
    since kay ka alyado man tag USA of course F-16 jud ang the best na e consider sa ato government.. ug kasabot na man ka siguro sa sunod kung ngano F-16..

  3. #2013

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Unya if ang imung armas kay Sundang ra kay di ka maka afford ug M16 kay wa kay badget nya ang musaka sa imung balay 5 ka tawo nag dala AK47 tagsa tagsa, Mupalit paka ug sundang?
    ngano sundang man ako paliton? alkanse nako daan..same sa ako g post regarding the OV-10 and modern jet intrude our airspace last year. and that's the answer to your question ."do we really need modern jets"

    your answer indirectly say "nga mo tanaw lang ko sa ni saka sa akong balay kay sundang raman ako armas."

    as to the air force they need an equipment to at least go head to head with the intruder.
    Last edited by hulagway; 03-13-2012 at 02:08 PM.

  4. #2014

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by hulagway View Post
    ngano sundang man ako paliton? alkanse nako daan..same sa ako g post regarding the OV-10 and modern jet intrude our airspace last year. and that's the answer to your question ."do we really need modern jets"

    your answer indirectly say "nga mo tanaw lang ko sa ni saka sa akong balay kay sundang raman ako armas."

    as to the air force they need an equipment to at least go head to head with the intruder.
    can't believe you responded to that ridiculous analogy.

  5. #2015

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by hulagway View Post
    naay nahitabo last year sa west Philippine sea under the airspace sa Philippines..and our OV-10 PAF pilot way nahimo sa intruder kundi mo tanaw lang why? for the reason that OV-10 could not much the intruders jet.
    dili ni siya mabaw nga rason..kung ang imo balay sakon unya dili ka kasukol kay wala kay ikasukol mag unsa manka?
    on this note naa ko question.

    what if naa natay f16. then the intruder came clearly trespassing. do we have the right to attack and vaporize it? much like sa balay gud if naay mo trespass you can defend yourself and disable the person. pwedi bana?

  6. #2016

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    on this note naa ko question.

    what if naa natay f16. then the intruder came clearly trespassing. do we have the right to attack and vaporize it? much like sa balay gud if naay mo trespass you can defend yourself and disable the person. pwedi bana?
    pwede sir if an intruder (unidentified flying aircraft) does not cooperate by landing down in our airport and explain fully his/her intentions why he trespass our airspace..

  7. #2017

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by chris_bern View Post
    pwede sir if an intruder (unidentified flying aircraft) does not cooperate by landing down in our airport and explain fully his/her intentions why he trespass our airspace..
    aw oh noh.as long as follow lang sa protocol then if dili mo respond pud ang aircraft.

  8. #2018

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by whiteKelso View Post
    hmmm.. you dont think they dont have the spare for the first ten years? i dont think so. i guess its worth a buy!
    This what happens before sa F-8 Crusaders, we only have spares for 10 years, after 10 years kay wala na kwarta pangpalit ug parts..

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Does our country really needs F-16's or MIGS? i mean considering the expenses like maintenance? and considering its purpose?
    YES, the only plane we have are 2 S-211 and OV-10 Broncos, ang S-211 pde ra ipasok sa engine intake sa Su-27, MiG-29...

    Quote Originally Posted by waterboy0911 View Post
    naay mga donation nga gikan america.. kaso di gusto ug item ang ato gov. gusto ug kwarta ra kuno.. )
    Proof or it never happened... EDA equipments are easier to donate than money kay dili hassle sa accounting...

  9. #2019

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    That should answer your question. Sige raman kag ilis sa imung question. Imung first question, kung kylangan bah ang acquisition ni-ani. Karun with respect to domestic insurgencies nasad. the straight answer is: YES, alluded in the previous post--foreign, and domestic. It will help the defense significantly. So budget is definitely warranted. If wa ka kasabot, please do tell and allow me to elaborate.

    Now it's my turn to ask, should the Philippines allow foreign vessels to illegally trespass Philippine waters and airspace, or should we at least give the AFP some teeth to deter them from violating Philippine rights and sovereignty?
    Cge ilis kay wa man ka kasabot

    Ako question related sa Budget ug priorities sa atung nasud, ang imu ra jud tawn gi huna huna ang Trespass ra jud tawn.

    para sa imung pangutana, kinsa guy tawo ganahan iyang sala higdaan ug laing tawo nga wa siya kaila.
    Last edited by SioDenz; 03-13-2012 at 03:38 PM.

  10. #2020

    Default Re: Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world

    Quote Originally Posted by hulagway View Post
    ngano sundang man ako paliton? alkanse nako daan..same sa ako g post regarding the OV-10 and modern jet intrude our airspace last year. and that's the answer to your question ."do we really need modern jets"

    your answer indirectly say "nga mo tanaw lang ko sa ni saka sa akong balay kay sundang raman ako armas."

    as to the air force they need an equipment to at least go head to head with the intruder.
    Murag wa ka katuhog, ang pangutana is practical ba if F-16's or Migs atu paliton. nya based sa atung badget, pila sad kabuok mapalit natu? if practical ba sad ang kadaghanun sa atung ma afford.

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