Fixing our country: Where did we go wrong?

[ketllac]

Maypa i-step-by-step ni ang mga posts diri sa mga solution para klaro gyud kung asa padung.
Nag-wonder sad ko kung maapil ba kaha sa mga lista diri ang "Step 1. Impeach CJ Corona.... Step 2. Put Gloria Arroyo to prison (life sentence).... " for a better Philippines matud pa sa atong administration karon. hehe

Sugdi bai @emow... dili kay puro lang ta liberty, free market, ug No gov't intervention ato sturyaan diri kay dili mana mahitabo in a snap. Naa man tay kanya2x nga ideal world so ato nalang tan-awon asa ang mas dali makab-ot gikan sa atong kahimtang karon.

kung mag end of the world gyud karon, basin tungod ni sa mga sala ni Gloria.... hehehe
paet

kini uyon ko ani.. ang ideal state or world should be sa kadaghanan naggikan kay ang liberty dili man na sa usa ka tawo lang. ang liberty jud nga mo harmonize sa mga citizens nga lahi panan-aw ug ideals...maypa adto sa mga practical nga solution nga ato i- enumerate para sa kasamtangan situastion..

[masakiton]

kini uyon ko ani.. ang ideal state or world should be sa kadaghanan naggikan kay ang liberty dili man na sa usa ka tawo lang. ang liberty jud nga mo harmonize sa mga citizens nga lahi panan-aw ug ideals...maypa adto sa mga practical nga solution nga ato i- enumerate para sa kasamtangan situastion..

less anak = more chances ma hatagan ug maayo nga quality of education
good quality of education = dako ang chances maka sud ug trabaho nga maayo ang sweldo
trabaho nga maayo ug sweldo = dako chances nga maka hatag ug maayong future sa future family

[ketllac]

less anak = more chances ma hatagan ug maayo nga quality of education
good quality of education = dako ang chances maka sud ug trabaho nga maayo ang sweldo
trabaho nga maayo ug sweldo = dako chances nga maka hatag ug maayong future sa future family

uyon ko ani..usa ni sa mga solutions..pero kung pananglitan imo ning i -pwersa nga mao ra ni solution aw simplified ni nga version part ...slippery slope argument...

[salvadorjr]

sooner or later someone will post it here "its GMAs fault" ...

Hehehe its true and much better "Blame it on the Rain"

[SioDenz]

daghan solusyon wa jud na implement

ang ending, si juan dela cruz naghikahos.

[kimleeKINO_choi]

sooner or later someone will post it here "its GMAs fault" ...

Mean as it seem to blame GMA but I totally agree with you bro.

[zvike005]

Where did we go wrong? Kita! Kulang sa disiplina. As simple as throwing the trash in the garbage bin, di man gani.

I also wonder, katong countries under Spain ba kay kurakot lagi like Mexico. Tan-awa under Britain, asensado lagi like HK and Singapore.

[emow]

nindot ni imo idea bai, mo agree ko ani kay dapat ang liberty ug inherent rights dapat sa atoa magsugod.Pero dili gyud malikayan nga naa gyud ng interference sa government but ideally gamay lang unta. kana lang enforcing contract is already an interference. gusto diay ka mobalik atong time sa mga american indians nga dili ayo organized ang system ug walay tax system compared karon sa America?

unsay imo idea or definition about progress and development? wala kaayo involvement ang government? makasiguro kag order sa competition?

The first 200 years of the American republic was characterized by relatively negligible inflation, 100$ saved in year 1 is relatively the same 100$ in year 200.... The standards of living of ordinary men (negro slavery and tariffs were the only things that contradict their libertarian society) improved so much, that America became the "land of the free!" Many people migrated to find fortune in America's almost completely free market system, save for tariffs. Their government then has little intervention with everyday lives, and commerce was very abundant. Upon the turn of the 20th century, several bankers influenced the leaders to establish central planning and increase government intervention with the free market. The Great Depression was not caused by uncontrolled market, but by government intervention through the Federal reserve, sadly it was blamed on the free market which paved the way for more economic control by the government.

Progress is advancement in human well being. Contemporary times link it with statistical growth which is rather deceiving... because statistical data are almost always manipulated (from Kennedy upto Obama, Mao Tse Tung, Marcos dictatorship, Kim Jong Il, etc...) to establish a sense of efficiency with their respective leaderships... Prosperity, on the other hand, is the more important factor because it is what the people can actually feel and enjoy. To differentiate growth from prosperity, the clearest example i can give is the Soviet Union. They became a super-power, an industrial giant in the world economy. There was gradual growth into their production of machineries. However, there was no prosperity felt on the normal people. Their economic status remain the same regardless of their labor. Which would you prefer? Progressive Growth? or Progressive Prosperity?

I would like to introduce to you the Austrian school of economics, which i find very true and the only school of thought consistent with the concept of individual liberty. It basically believes in a completely free market economy, unbridled by government intervention and regulation, limit taxation to the minimum level as possible, and respect civil liberties. That is where i adhere my world view, the current international peaceful revolution that is still on going... It is worthy to know, it is through their intellectuals that have persuaded the majority of world leaders the ill effects of communism and socialism.

Para lagi nimu saktu ka, ikaw naay solusyon nya kadtung nangaging mga tawo Sayop to sila, di ba mao man nay pasabot nimu? angkona nlan gud.

Naa ko diri para pagpahinumdum sa uban nga nagtuo nga sila ray insakto, sila ray naay solusyon nya ang uban sayop. Nga lisod masulbad atung problema kay daghan tawo sa atung nasud sama nimu nga nagtuo nga sila ray sakto ang uban sayop na.

Historical records will show you that the society of man fluctuates between the extreme of collectivism and the extreme of liberty. This is the paradigm of man, and not some conjured idea of anyone. That is what it is. Complete control vs complete Liberty. Societies who drifted towards collectivism (either through compassion or oppression) tends to degrade the quality of life for its people. Whereas, societies who progress closest to Liberty tend to improve the quality of life for its people. How did former socialists states like China, Vietnam, and Russia improved their economy? By loosening the control of government with the free market... I am not introducing any new idea, it may be that you are not well informed with the history of societies.

I see the road that our country is heading, towards socialism and communism. I envy your nonchalant attitude towards the state of this country, if only there are more people like you, then there would be no need for commerce...for everything will be at someone's mercy...

Maypa i-step-by-step ni ang mga posts diri sa mga solution para klaro gyud kung asa padung.
Nag-wonder sad ko kung maapil ba kaha sa mga lista diri ang "Step 1. Impeach CJ Corona.... Step 2. Put Gloria Arroyo to prison (life sentence).... " for a better Philippines matud pa sa atong administration karon. hehe

Sugdi bai @emow... dili kay puro lang ta liberty, free market, ug No gov't intervention ato sturyaan diri kay dili mana mahitabo in a snap. Naa man tay kanya2x nga ideal world so ato nalang tan-awon asa ang mas dali makab-ot gikan sa atong kahimtang karon.

kung mag end of the world gyud karon, basin tungod ni sa mga sala ni Gloria.... hehehe
paet

Having a step by step process of what? To improve the country? remove government regulations, and you wouldn't worry how to improve the economy...

[eezychair]

^^ If you haven't yet, perhaps you should read the parable of the ship. But never mind, really, you should instead read less and experience the real world yourself more.
Going through the posts in this thread, most see what is HERE and NOW, with suggestions on what to do to correct whatever is perceived to be wrong with the country. It is obvious that political inclinations of those who are here vary from libertarianism, marxism, to authoritarianism and even towards a dictatorial rule. I don't know if a 'middle ground' can be found to make it worthwhile for us to arrive at suggestions on 'fixing our country' that are indeed doable again, HERE and NOW. But perhaps that should be the focus rather than our philosophies.
Do you honestly think removing government regulations at the state where we are in now would improve our economy? That, in my honest opinion is wishful thinking.

[turff_y]

Fixing our country means making GMA pay for all her mistakes during her term? im not rili in favor of the admin or sa opposition, in fact im kinda apathetic when it comes to politics bt i jst want to ask, why blame GMA for all the
things that went wrong in our country?? c GMA jud kha? do u think that would fix our country? or just for the
world of those people who hates GMA? for me, i will not matter..ang ka pollution, or crimes sa manila or maski sa cebu, naa nman gani daan kaniadtong wala pa na presidente c GMA... krn shes blamed for all the mess that left by all those people running the government before?? sometimes dili man gani ta consistent sa pg help sa chores at home, or if student ka sa mga studies, or sa work kapoyan man gani ta coz we are not contented of what we have.i think it would be better to start realizing
sa ato self first kay maski we will be headed by best leaders in the country if kita mismo civilians wla ghapon discipline, wala ghapon tay pa-ingnan.

let me share lng sa ako experience in some place in hk, sa pedestrian lane nla, i rili appreciated sa nakita nko na citizn didto, kay gi huwat just nya na mo signal ug "go" for pedestrians to cross the road even it was about 2am where wala na hapit vehicles will pass by..wala na nko nakita diri sa pinas..so i think discpline mismo nato ang first tool para ma improve and not
blaming GMA or letting her pay for what she did kay to tell you, wala na tay mahimo ana, ang mahitabo, mg bawsanay ghapon na sa either side..peace!