Overseas Call Centers Target Of Anti-Outsourcing Bill

[sngbm87]

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All the methods have some good meat to them. Negatives and benefits depending on the situation case by case basis.

You have to consider the variables. Corporations run much like a country in similarities. They apply many tactics and evolve quickly for the changes and competitive threats in the Market. Country has a Government for a ONE SIZE FITS ALL. Including libertarian political approaches to fix social issues that let things run naturally or amock as depending who views it. And free market philosophy or gold standard.

Again it all depends. Some can't have a gold standard or base their currency on something. Germany used their land after their currency collapsed and it was a disaster. Some countries can't afford to monetize some goods or resources. it will ruin their economy. Some have no choice but to use debt as capital.

Outsourcing or receiving overseas jobs sometimes is a good trade off. True government pushes employment overseas based on over regulation. But the market segmentation and implementation depends on alot of factors.

We can go on and on about the issue...but it doesn't stop the fact the market will adjust accordingly.

Just who is the BREAD WINNER? and LOSER?

Both can't be winners.

ha

[blueleigh25]

i love the job really. sayang if mawala. technical support has been my life.

[digitalsuperman]

i don't think mawala gyud ang CC's. mag suffer ra gihapon ang economy sa US if mahitabo na.kay since ang sweldo sa mga taga US is mahal. so mo jack up pud ang prices.mag domino effect. im not sure if unsay plans ani. siguro sayon ra ang pag create ug bill/law about ani but if mo take effect na ang unexpected.lisud na au mo backfire. im sure american's dili ganahan nga mo jack up pud ilang inflation kay gikan pa silag recession.newly recovered pa sila.then with the pending EU financial crisis murag mag hinay2x gyud ang US sa ilang policies siguro oi. italy is in deep shet. and spain is going again into recession due to bad debt. so somehow someway that will affect the americans also.

[Eve's Apple Project]

this will eventually happen. wa tay mahims kay dili man ta US citizen (their politicians is serving for their people not for the philippines). let's just hope for the best. magdomino effect sad ni sa ato-a. asa naman ning atong mga BRIGHT nga Politicians? natug nasad sa kangkongan? they don't see the urgency of this news? haskang paita.
tan-awa ra gud ang kapalpakan aning mga politicians nato : kadtong teri hatcher & alec baldwin incident pag ugma lumba dayon og comment ning atong pinalangkang politicians (Paging Sen. Bong revilla). it was just a comment that both hollywood actors did react dayon ang politicians karon nga ang US Gov't na ang nag move nga kulban ta og kaldero. Unsa naman ilang gibuhat? Di kaya sa powers nila? paita.

[gareb]

Redistribution of wealth from one for another's benefit has been the name of the game, and serves the interest of a select few. That is what has become of the United States. There are many shades of socialism embedded into the thousands of laws their legislators have produced, allying government with lobbyists either directly or indirectly.

redistribution of wealth (fortunately) appears in all economic types and not just in socialist states;

• authoritarian socialism does it through property redistribution and collectivism.
• welfare states do it via progressive taxation and subsidies.
• neo-liberal economies do it via economic growth and charity.

how the US does its wealth redistribution falls mainly on the third, but also has some hints of the 2nd example, albeit minor.

In capitalism, the competitors won't naturally come in the same industry as advancements of technology has made the usage of any particular product so vast that no one can ever predict what new forms can come out of it. The mighty businesses will always be on the look out to stomp competition by improving their products and lowering the price as much as possible to stay relevant with consumers. Any new competition that is not viable in the market will be irrelevant and fades away by its own merit and not by "unnatural" causes...


But with government regulations in the market, it has protected some industries while preventing new competitions to challenge them. Let's take US for example, they have priced their employees so high that it increased the production costs making them globally uncompetitive... Companies will always seek profit for its survival.

this is the reason why the thesis of an unfettered and unregulated competition will ultimately not work as the aim of competition is to eliminate the competitor by any means necessary. a laissez faire capitalism, as advocated by the neoliberals, will ultimately stagnate into hegemony.


this is why we need government regulations contrary to what the neo-liberals at the WTO-IMF are saying, to protect weak economies from being snuffed out by the bigger players. this should run both ways to even out the playing field. this should be the prescription that the WT0-IMF should have given if indeed they are serious about poverty eradication: protect weak economies while on the process of maturing, at the same time opening up the strong economies so that the balance of power (political and economic) would even out.

there are things to be done.

first, there is a need to voice out and expose the hipocrisy of the US economic planners on the arbitrary usage of "trade liberalization"; something that they use and impose on everybody else only when it is to their advantage, but resort to protectionism when "trade liberalization" is percieved to be untenable in their own back yard. (we do not have this power as we are held hostage by our credit rating and our national debt)

second, given these stark contradictions, there is the need to revisit and reevaluate the mainstream economic ideology to see if it really serves to alleviate world poverty or is this just a tool for economic and political advancement of one player.

third, the call center/BPO industry, being a tangible manifestation of how the world economic order works, is indeed threatened by this skewed and arbitrary reasoning. as an extension, the economy, down to our very families, are threatened as well. there is a need for the government to re-imagine job creation over and above our dependency to foreign corporations for employment.

[gareb]

interestingly, another hipocrisy emerges. manufacturing plants of US companies overseas (e.g. iPhones made in Taiwan and China, etc.) aren't seem to be targeted when the issue seems to be the same: employment.

why?

• is it because the manufacturing industry is a vital part of the US economy and any distortions could bring the whole economy crashing down?
• or is it because they do not want to go on a trade war with the manufacturing giant China which has both worldwide economic and political clout, unlike the puny Philippines whose government has proven to be an enamoured servant to US interests since time immemorial?
• take note that this heightened call to shift the call center industry came after the Philippines reached the top spot in the BPO industry, surpassing India, which begs the question, are they doing this because they can bully us, something that they cannot do with other countries?

these are things to be thought about...

[digitalsuperman]

interestingly, another hipocrisy emerges. manufacturing plants of US companies overseas (e.g. iPhones made in Taiwan and China, etc.) aren't seem to be targeted when the issue seems to be the same: employment.

why?

• is it because the manufacturing industry is a vital part of the US economy and any distortions could bring the whole economy crashing down?
• or is it because they do not want to go on a trade war with the manufacturing giant China which has both worldwide economic and political clout, unlike the puny Philippines whose government has proven to be an enamoured servant to US interests since time immemorial?
• take note that this heightened call to shift the call center industry came after the Philippines reached the top spot in the BPO industry, surpassing India, which begs the question, are they doing this because they can bully us, something that they cannot do with other countries?

these are things to be thought about...

mao sad na ako kalibugan bitaw. IMO the manufacturing of american products to me is outsourcing already. and if nahan gyud sila nga naa work ilang populace then the manufacturing industry is bigger and wider than the CC's. i generation of jobs ilang apas then having the manufacturing facilities in the states should be done.

[gareb]

mao sad na ako kalibugan bitaw. IMO the manufacturing of american products to me is outsourcing already. and if nahan gyud sila nga naa work ilang populace then the manufacturing industry is bigger and wider than the CC's. i generation of jobs ilang apas then having the manufacturing facilities in the states should be done.

it does not make much economic sense does it? which leads us to the conclusion that this is a populist ploy by the conservatives for more votes. it's almost election season, by the way.

[Kenshiro]

ngano daghan man jud murag negative ika storya sa mga cc agent.. wtf! its an honest job!

are you not happy for us or selos lang jud mo kay mas daku mi ug sweldo ninyo and yeah the benefits like health insurance... like u dont have to pay anything if ma hospitalize ka and guess what naa pa ka imoha own private room with tv and the best part of it is if naa ka anak apil sila covered.. so dili naka mangutang pa para pang hospital sa imoha anak.. and once again private room sa chung hua ehhehe.. or cdc....

and by the way, its not an easy job... and we deserve the pay

One Thing I can add if your talking about customer service skills wala ra sa fraction for an employee based on local to an outsource call center experienced employee. customer service from globe or PLDT rings a bell doesn't it?

I think there are alot of other options or jobs if ever the cc industry would collapse.

[digitalsuperman]

ngano daghan man jud murag negative ika storya sa mga cc agent.. wtf! its an honest job!

are you not happy for us or selos lang jud mo kay mas daku mi ug sweldo ninyo and yeah the benefits like health insurance... like u dont have to pay anything if ma hospitalize ka and guess what naa pa ka imoha own private room with tv and the best part of it is if naa ka anak apil sila covered.. so dili naka mangutang pa para pang hospital sa imoha anak.. and once again private room sa chung hua ehhehe.. or cdc....

and by the way, its not an easy job... and we deserve the pay

well daghan gyud suyaon sa atoa society in general.so ikaw nalang pud sabot ana nila. hehe. pasagdahi nalang na sila kasagaran ana nila gagmayon pud ug utok.as long as CC agents are contributing to our economy and earning.then so be it.pasagdihi nalang nang uban tao bai. as long as lang nanarbaho lang ug tarong walay dapat ikabalaka