How to stop or solve the poverty in the Philippines?

[chris_bern]

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ok.. do u have any certain examples about how to solve poverty which involves revolution but not a violent one but more so an intellectual one?

[chris_bern]

the solution to poverty involves a revolution, not a violent one, but more so an intellectual one. If the message of liberty is more marketed in the media, then we can have more people willing to accept the sole responsibility of their fate, without expecting others to help them...that will unload the burden of the government of which hopefully reduces corruption. the more people expect from the government, the more corruption will spread...

I agree with u on these idea.. it is the reality that we are facing until now... people still expect from the government , and as years go by, they are expecting more from the government.. maayo lage unta bay ang mga datu sa pinas willing jud mutabang without any reward sa ila ginatabangan.. if there are NGO's helping to the poor they are only very few man pud.. in short, sa gobyerno gihapon sila mangayo ug tabang kay gobyerno lang man jud ang ila makita na dali maduolan ug tabang..

[emow]

^ by spreading it one at a time... its only when people's mindset change that we can change the entire society... not by force, but by their own understanding... by their own realization of seeing the results of welfarism.... example: EU and America... both bankrupt by too much welfarism... that when some EU nations use some austerity measures, people revolt because they have been used to by the government taking care of them...the experiment of government taking care all the needs of the people didn't work... welfarism is a dead end investment, it drains away the capital of the businesses and private individuals...less capital, less production....that's why governments must rely on perpetual debt, a key feature of Keynesian economics, to continue to provide for the people.... We don't need statistical growth...We need true prosperity that can be felt by those who strive hard....

[ketllac]

I agree with u on these idea.. it is the reality that we are facing until now... people still expect from the government , and as years go by, they are expecting more from the government.. maayo lage unta bay ang mga datu sa pinas willing jud mutabang without any reward sa ila ginatabangan.. if there are NGO's helping to the poor they are only very few man pud.. in short, sa gobyerno gihapon sila mangayo ug tabang kay gobyerno lang man jud ang ila makita na dali maduolan ug tabang..

Nindot baya sad ang programa sa mga NGOs. pero usahay lang dili kaayo dako impact labi na nga ang programa sa gobyerno dili mo tunong o mocooperate sa NGO.

I don't think nga ang mga NGO sa nangayo sa government. kung mao na, dili na matawag Non governmental organization, kay salig naman sa ira,or subsidy sa panudlanan. kasagaran sad sa NGO naa nay funding agencies or donors sa Europe ug US, like euroaide, usaid, ug christianaide.

[emow]

I agree with u on these idea.. it is the reality that we are facing until now... people still expect from the government , and as years go by, they are expecting more from the government.. maayo lage unta bay ang mga datu sa pinas willing jud mutabang without any reward sa ila ginatabangan.. if there are NGO's helping to the poor they are only very few man pud.. in short, sa gobyerno gihapon sila mangayo ug tabang kay gobyerno lang man jud ang ila makita na dali maduolan ug tabang..

I am saying that when a person will realize not even the government will help him, his survival instincts turns on... he will look at what's best for him and his family... but when the government is making it available for him to be provided, the survival instincts doesn't work, he will be dependent... Welfarism has displaced many people, attracting people from different places to cities that provide social welfare, thus you see the influx of rural people to urbanized cities... there is an inherent incentive for these people to populate the area, regardless of what they do, they can EXPECT a form of welfare...

If there was no welfare, and when they migrate to cities and realize they could not prosper in it, the natural reaction is to seek other places so that he can establish his wealth...suma gud, kung mag abli ka negosyo sa usa ka lugar na dili profitable, dili kaha ka mu balhin sa laing lugar? Pero kung tagaan kag assurance na amount of money to stay in that unprofitable place, most likely you will settle in that place. "may nalang diri, sigurado naay benepisyo" That destroys the drive for success...

Then people should understand that opportunities are only equal if there is nothing done to promote or prevent any person from seeking his wealth. If ever there is an external force that intervenes into these scenario, then it will create an imbalance... the government should not help one industry above any other industry...it should not equalize... it should leave it to the free market...let the demand decide the existence of any industry, opportunity and labor... If ever the government should favor one industry, then everyone will demand the same...that created many of all these social problems...the government has a hard time balancing its budget, to who do they will help first...that will be managed then by affinities to the bureaucracies... sip-sipanay sa gobyerno...leading to the paternalism style of politics we have right now...those closest to the powers at hand, will get more favors....

[chris_bern]

We need true prosperity that can be felt by those who strive hard....

I agree with u on these.. but if people will strive hard for true prosperity daghan man hinoon sila makaaway kay ang uban magselos sa ila na achieve and if that happens their life will sometimes be at risk kay daghan gusto mukuha sa ila mga riches..
na daghan pa naman sa ato mga pinoy naay crab mentality..
but as what u said it's only when people's mindset change that we can change the entire society.

nice idea...

[emow]

I agree with u on these.. but if people will strive hard for true prosperity daghan man hinoon sila makaaway kay ang uban magselos sa ila na achieve and if that happens their life will sometimes be at risk kay daghan gusto mukuha sa ila mga riches..
na daghan pa naman sa ato mga pinoy naay crab mentality..
but as what u said it's only when people's mindset change that we can change the entire society.

nice idea...

Yes bai, you have mention something very important... man has two natures in order to sustain his life... one, to work ceaselessly to exploit the natural resources of this earth....two, to exploit other men...that is called plunder... Work is pain and man resorts to something less painful, stealing. Thus, the existence of laws is one that makes plunder more painful than work.. That is the truest nature of a law, protecting life, liberty, and property..

However, that is no longer what we have right now... We accept welfarism as legitimate...penalizing honest work and rewarding the sloths and unworthy... Laws are now perversed to the despotisms of power...

[blaklist25]

on a small case, example sa amo barangay..

i noticed that most of the dreams sa mga bata is makagraduate hiskul then mangaply og mepza or adto sa ciudad(cebu\manila) manarbaho unja maregular na...pyts na kaau..pwedi na magminjo..

Uban manarbaho ja og naa nka ikadown tricycle\motor or mkapalit na tricycle\motor moundang na trabaho ja mag driver na...aws daog na.... karon kinadaghanan na mga tricyle..pro ang pasahero wa managhan....so uban tricycle pahuway sa..


maybe most of them are contented with their life..its like their dream life..(but then kon magkasakit ila anak mgkalisod og taman or ngkalisod pa iskwela sa mga anak ang uban dili kahuman hiskul)
then the next generation of kids grew up, mao mana ila makitan sa palibot nila chances are anha rapod kutob ila mga pangandoy... it becomes a cycle..

then, this is where i think others\us can step-in\interfere\break the cycle, we can show\teach\inspire\talk to them to dream higher, to explore more, that they can achieve anything it they want and work for it with all they've got, to see, feel and experience the other side of the wall...
hopefully it will give a long lasting positive impression amongst them...and even if one child out of a thousand(hopefully more) can break that cycle\be inspired to dream higher and work for it, because of you, hats off to you my friend...
i think the best to way to impart those things ky during the elementary years sa bata..ky dili pa kaau brainwash sa mga negative na butang...so pwedi pa ma brainwash og mga positive na butang... and the best person is someone from that community(or person most of them know) that was able to succeed in life given the same(more or less) condition\environment that those kids are in....

sa ngkalahi2 na lugar lahi pod situation, lahi2 solution....
it's up to us look sa situation and think of the best way to help others make their live's better....


“I accept that there will be disparities in the world. I accept that life is not fair. I accept that resources, power, opportunities will not be shared equally. But I hate that we live in a world that these disparities are based not on the limits of people’s abilities, but their circumstance. That’s what I want to help change.” -- Brendan Baker

[chris_bern]

However, that is no longer what we have right now... We accept welfarism as legitimate...penalizing honest work and rewarding the sloths and unworthy... Laws are now perversed to the despotisms of power...

mao pud ni gi stressed out nimo.. and I learn that welfarism is not that good at all.. so what should we do para maundang ning welfarism that gives rewards sa mga unworthy??

[emow]

yes, inspire the new generation to aspire bigger than what they see...to strive at their own power and not expecting any charity, which only puts out the drive for success... I agree that different places need different approach, that's why we must limit the government... most policies should be decided at the most smallest level as possible...nationalizing any policy, other than that pertains to national security, will cause unnecessary expenditures that provide no effect solution on other areas...