FRAT WAR...THREAT TO PEACE

[digitalsuperman]

i have a friend whoe AKP..nice man..i won't judge my friends just because his so called brother's are waging war against another fraternities...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

i have a friend whoe AKP..nice man..i won't judge my friends just because his so called brother's are waging war against another fraternities...

Bai superman ..... just to clear things out if you are refering ur friends as members of AKP and you are not judging ur friends so called brods ( other AKP members ) for waging war on other fraternities , I will say this once and for the last time , WE DID NOT WAGE WAR nor PROMOTED VIOLENCE that brought this chaos right now at its current stage .

Why dont we hear anything from lytslpr or satoy regarding the status and whereabouts of whats going on now in Cebu anymore?? To lytslpr ( secretariat of cebu ) and satoy ( ctao officer ) , control your tarantulas namely WAWAY , DI-AN , BULHOG , NICO and I will control mine , you know better than that what we got if you really want true peace . Remember people , you cant shake hands with the enemies with a clench fist .

[potterboy]

i have a friend whoe AKP..nice man..i won't judge my friends just because his so called brother's are waging war against another fraternities...

Bai superman ..... just to clear things out if you are refering ur friends as members of AKP and you are not judging ur friends so called brods ( other AKP members ) for waging war on other fraternities , I will say this once and for the last time , WE DID NOT WAGE WAR nor PROMOTED VIOLENCE that brought this chaos right now at its current stage .

Why dont we hear anything from lytslpr or satoy regarding the status and whereabouts of whats going on now in Cebu anymore?? To lytslpr ( secretariat of cebu ) and satoy ( ctao officer ) , control your tarantulas namely WAWAY , DI-AN , BULHOG , NICO and I will control mine , you know better than that what we got if you really want true peace . Remember people , you cant shake hands with the enemies with a clench fist .

true. we wanna hear the other side coz we can't go on like this. I AM A SKEPTRON and it hurts me so bad on how some SPECULATORS SPECULATE and make things worse. things get out of hand when people give in more words that doesn't belong to the conversation or the subject for that matter. let us hear their side... para fair... on both sides.

[LytSlpr]

Why dont we hear anything from lytslpr or satoy regarding the status and whereabouts of whats going on now in Cebu anymore?? To lytslpr ( secretariat of cebu ) and satoy ( ctao officer ) , control your tarantulas namely WAWAY , DI-AN , BULHOG , NICO and I will control mine , you know better than that what we got if you really want true peace . Remember people , you cant shake hands with the enemies with a clench fist .

First of all, i apologize that recently i was not actively following this thread or participating in the entire forum for that matter because I am currently very busy with personal & professional matters as well. I am aware that we have a responsibility of letting the people know at least here in ISTORYA.

Anyway, I don't want to point fingers because it will open old wounds and will not solve anything & I already mentioned this in my previous posts but allow me to do so to remind everybody and for the sake of informing as well.

It is a fact that after the Peace Talks AKP was the one who broke the pact. Not only 1 or 2 incidents but i believe it reached around 15-18 incidents, all involving knives & guns. [I still have the clippings & bookmarked the reports.] The most vivid of which was when one of our brod had a picnic with his family in a resort in Minglanilla & an AKP chapter was also there on an outing celebrating their chapter anniversary. AKP members were bent on killing the entire family including some children. Plus, we were the FIRST to have a casualty after the Peace Talks. It just so happened that when Chigue Romero was unfortunately killed it was so much celebrated that we were the bad guys then in the eyes of the public. But what they did not consider & realize was that we took a good number of hits from AKP without a single retaliation before the "chigue incident".

We accept that the situation is already volatile as it is and we admit that when those incidents happened against AKP probably some brods acted on their own to avenge their close brod and friend. Does it mean that the TGP council ordered it? How can we stop this kind of activity? Even the government cannot "police" their police.

The bottomline is, AKP breached the Peace Talk first & not just once. This is an undisputable fact.

The Cebu Council of TGP never planned a hit on Romero or to any AKP member for that matter.

We were able to contain & temper our brods before & right after the Peace Talk. That is why they agreed to it but after the multiple hits on us, how do you expect us to control some brods who were directly hurt or lost a friend?

I'm asking SPRINGFIELD now, what do you suggest that we should do?

A follow up on the peace pact should be done ASAP!

BTW, the names you mentioned are not tarantulas, there are no more active tarantulas in Cebu simply because they are already old and TGP did not care to put up one anymore. This was just a 70's thing. Moreover, passing off TGP members as APO in one of our supposedly hits to AKP is absurd. We will get APO's ire here in Cebu if we do that. Word does come around you know and the Triskelion principles are not like that.

And on the vandalism issue, it is very obvious that there are a lot of AKP insignias graffitti'd almost everywhere in Cebu. I have pictures to prove this in different locations and during the clean up drive, AKP cleaned up only the very obvious and in a major street only. TGP graffittis are very minimal. It is also absurd for TGP to make AKP insignia graffittis just to make AKP look bad. First, it is costly & second, the risk of getting caught for vandalism will be on us. So it is a plain stupid act. Ironically, I have seen elaborate AKP graffittis side by side with a mediocrely designed triskelion seal morphed into a running man with exactly the same paint used. This is a very cowardly & treacherous act if I may add. It also doesn't figure if AKP will say that these are done by their "fans". I have aslo heard non-frat people comment on AKP naming public streets, alleys & subdivision streets as AKRHO or AKP street.

[shoeless_rebel]

tsk tsk tsk... was talkin to an AKP friend of mine and he said the war is stupid but he can't see an end to it... he said it'll go on forever... he said it's an old grudge and the people who started it all prolly doesn't even care anymore... basically frat men and innocent people are dying because of a useless and pathetic old grudge...

[LytSlpr]

tsk tsk tsk... was talkin to an AKP friend of mine and he said the war is stupid but he can't see an end to it... he said it'll go on forever... he said it's an old grudge and the people who started it all prolly doesn't even care anymore... basically frat men and innocent people are dying because of a useless and pathetic old grudge...

I TOTALLY AGREE, THIS WAR SHOULD END BECAUSE IT IS POINTLESS!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

LYTSLPR : bai on issues being brought up , I wil just comment or give answers to the best of my ideas .

PEACE PACT : You are referring to AKP who broke it first because you are basing in the news . Are you aware of what happened that very same night on the day the Peace pact was in effect? An incident happened in Talamban and the very next day in University of the Visayas . Just because it is not in the news does not justify that it is not counted as an evidence of who first broke the pact .

TARANTULAS : I dont want to play games with you bai but I wasnt born nor joined AKP yesterday . Kinsa diay to ang Tarantulas from Zambo na gi deploy ninyo last year as an SO to Cebu ?? Kadto bitaw nag stay sa may Alang Alang Mandaue ?? By the way for everyones information , Tarantulas are TGP hitmens/frontliners , counterpart of AKP's now obsolete/defunct 13( trese) .

VIOLENCE : isnt it a shame that mismo ang alumni ninyo involved sa violence ? Remember ROB ROY ARIENZA REYNA of Surigao chapter na taga Opra village and JIMMY SANCHEZ na taga Banilad on their plan hits to Brod Paul Oaminal and brod Richard Buscaino ? THe plans of RAYMUND SOSOBRADO to kill Crisjune and " Aries " ? These names of ur brods ang mga dagko na tae pa sa Cebu , then sila pa ang source sa mga plans . Unsa pa kaha kung kami mga alumni mag-apil2x ?? Dugay ng bugto ng mga ngalana but we chose not to, kabalo nami asa pangitaon mo mga CTAO and MCRC but we know its wrong and unjust.

SOLUTIONS : Sinulog 2005 is fast approaching , remember that this chaos all started in SInulog 2001 when TGP founding member visited Cebu . You know the whole 9 yards about it so no need to open old wounds ika nga nimo . Patawag mo ug general meeting and implement a CEASEFIRE , we already did . From that ceasefire , maybe we can start something . Kamo pod naay mabasahan sa media , ayaw mo tuo dayon . Gather facts and figures mo , ayaw mo tuo dayon na gikan sa botbot na storya na inig abot nimo wala mo kabalo kung nasobraan or kulangan na ang mga information nakuha ninyo .

[shoeless_rebel]

nindot man sad inyo intentions bay. i mean kanang mga officials... may lang gyud ta ma control ang members... kung ang quality sa mga brod ninyo (SPRINGFIELD_XD_40, LytSlpr) parehas ninyo daghan gyud cguro pa ma buhat na maayo inyo frat... nidota siguro sa? di na ta ma hadlok...

[louie007]

like in any community, may it be a fraternity, a city, a country, or even a family..

we've got good eggs and bad eggs..

mr. good egg can't always tell mr. bad egg what to do..

and of course, if mr. bad egg is bad.. doesn't make all eggs bad.

[potterboy]

like in any community, may it be a fraternity, a city, a country, or even a family..

we've got good eggs and bad eggs..

mr. good egg can't always tell mr. bad egg what to do..

and of course, if mr. bad egg is bad.. doesn't make all eggs bad.

right.

TGP and AKP alike are just a part of a so-called stage drama. all actors and actresses tried putting up their best but the producers just gave them 20 pesos to buy a colored cartolina as a backdrop. and so the play flopped.