MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

[emow]

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It is wise for people to read the Constitution before giving any opinion regarding the matter.... It has purposely chained the government from being a tyrant... Rights cannot be deprived as long as the individual is not being charged.... This grave violation is a threat towards all our freedom...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Now the Aquino admin is in total hypocrisy since its been debated that Circular 41 is unconstitutional and clearly it violated peoples right ... then they still used it against GMA ....

LOL... The last I check unless the the SC say its so unconstitutional only then will it be...

From a political Science grad perspective the admin is using such means hypocritic or not, its legal and it was not even crafted by them... they are within their bounds

Even if they do think its unconstitutional. LOL...

[amingb]

Murag under Investigation man gud siya mao na ganahan unta ang gobyerno naa iya presence diri...



naninigurado lang ang gobyerno...

Dili man magkakaso kung dili pa na arraigned ang taw...

kung wala pa naka plead ang taw dili makadagan ang kaso... mao na...

Diman ka pugos ang Goberno sa presence puede raman na siya ug Lawyer accordingly kay its still a preliminary investigation ...

i think the last option ani nga Goberno its to violate arroyos rights kay ug balaod jud basihan lusot jud na siya ....

[digitalsuperman]

Asa man dapita ang naka bias bro .. kindly explain ... constitution mana sa inahan sa atong presidente ang gibasihan sayop diay ang constiution ani .....

Kana nga kaso ingon ana wala na siya gi ingon nga gi dali2x kay its a case accordingly to be address immediately ( mao ako ni hear ni Marquez ) ug 2 weeks na siya nga petition .....

basaha usab akong gi post bro.murag wala ta nagkasinabot da.

[tylerdurden]

basaha usab akong gi post bro.murag wala ta nagkasinabot da.

helpful link to the timeline of the whole bruhaha

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/94527/t...-supreme-court

interesting tidbits:

#1. that was a quick deliberation!
#2. it must be awesome to be an arroyo. 2 million in a duffel bag anytime you want! dang!
#3. check the times. i thought government offices closed at 5.
#4. when they first tried to pay, a copy of the TRO was still not with the cashier. that's how rushed the SC did all this.
#5. 2 million in a duffel bag! in thousand peso bills! i can't get over how casual that sounds. they either had it prepared well in advance or that's just cheap change for these people.

#6. checkout that pic! nice try but you're no nora aunor. :P

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Dili ku familiar sa EO ni GMA affecting this particular issue....

But what i think will happen is that GMA can challenge the admin regarding the Constitutionality of depriving her rights.... the issue of whether it is Constitutional or not will then be explored deeper.... However, as long as there is no case filed against Arroyo, shouldn't she enjoy the rights of an ordinary citizen? I know how we want to prosecute GMA because of her anomalies, but we should not sacrifice the rule of Law and the sacredness of our Constitution... Many Law experts are scratching their heads because of the recent actions of the Admin and DOJ, leading to a possible Constitutional crisis... For liberty's sake, we cannot prevent anyone's rights just because we are still building a case against that person....
Noynoy's tuwid na daan would be undermined by stepping on the Constitution...
That's my two cents regarding the matter....

This is very interesting isnt it, anyway the problem is the SC did not even rule whether the DOJ has a right or not to put GMA on hold departure list they made restraining order it not even a TRO becuase it suspend the effectivity of the circular...

Yes there is no case against GMA yet but she is under investigation....

Sometime our laws can be very inconvenient in search for justice, dont you think?

this is i think a copy of the decision
http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprud...199046_TRO.pdf

the dissenting opinon is interesting is worth reading though.

http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprud...046_SERENO.pdf

[amingb]

LOL... The last I check unless the the SC say its so unconstitutional only then will it be...

From a political Science grad perspective the admin is using such means hypocritic or not, its legal and it was not even crafted by them... they are within their bounds

Even if they do think its unconstitutional. LOL...

Sa ako pud na basa regarding ana nga circular ang mga opposition that time arguaing that it is unconstitutional particurly kining admin karon .... its hypricsy kay they used it against GMA asa man ang logic ana ....

Well of course any circular order is bounded by the Government unless declare unconstitutional by SC .. diko makiglalis ana ....

Now About ana nga Circular naa koy cut and paste ...

The Justice secretary can only issue an HDO or a WLO against a person who has violated the Anti-Trafficking in Persons Act or if he or she is being investigated to that effect, or if is in the interest of national security, public safety or health.

The Arroyos had neither violated RA 9208 nor are they being investigated on that issue. And the Arroyos are yet to be declared a threat to national security, public safety or health.

Well anyway kana nga Circular Diay is Legal ... and also is not Applicable to GMA ....

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Diman ka pugos ang Goberno sa presence puede raman na siya ug Lawyer accordingly kay its still a preliminary investigation ...

i think the last option ani nga Goberno its to violate arroyos rights kay ug balaod jud basihan lusot jud na siya ....

I think the presence of the accused is needed during arraignement... and in case GMa is not around by that time walang kaso mapasaka because her counsel cannot plead in her behalf... the trial cannot go on without her presence there could be no trial in absentia unless the accused has entered her plea...

What a dilemma diba? very apt that DOJ sec is named de lima? LOL

[tylerdurden]

here's a link on how much the arroyos want people to focus on her supposed medical condition. sa kadugay na ani niyang abuso ug pa-VIP treatment, di man gani mubayad ug toll fee sa dalan, karon nalang siya magpadramadrama ug inani?

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/95049/m...ent-to-arroyos

unsa toy termino sa akong tiyo sa una? sa masud lang sa bulsa? hehehe!

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

Sa ako pud na basa regarding ana nga circular ang mga opposition that time arguaing that it is unconstitutional particurly kining admin karon .... its hypricsy kay they used it against GMA asa man ang logic ana ....

Well of course any circular order is bounded by the Government unless declare unconstitutional by SC .. diko makiglalis ana ....

Now About ana nga Circular naa koy cut and paste ...

The Justice secretary can only issue an HDO or a WLO against a person who has violated the Anti-Trafficking in Persons Act or if he or she is being investigated to that effect, or if is in the interest of national security, public safety or health.

The Arroyos had neither violated RA 9208 nor are they being investigated on that issue. And the Arroyos are yet to be declared a threat to national security, public safety or health.

Well anyway kana nga Circular Diay is Legal ... and also is not Applicable to GMA ....

SEc.1 Doj Cir 41
(c) The Secretary of Justice may likewise issue an HDO against any person, either motu proprio, or upon the request by the Head of a Department of the Government; the head of a constitutional body or commission; the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court for the Judiciary; the Senate President or the House Speaker for the Legislature, when the adverse party is the Government or any of its agencies or instrumentalities, or in the interest of national security, public safety or public health.


isnt the case which GMA is under investigation the adverse party is the government?