MERGED: All About Gloria Arroyo - Past, Present, Future

[hulagway]

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susus..ang problema lang jud is ngano mo labag jud sa balaud..illegal ang pag WLO sa DOJ naa nay TRO sa SC..unya ngano ila man gihapon i deny sa pag larga?

kasohi usa bago sila mg deny sa tao sa ilang rights...

[yacky2006]

daghan man gud kaayo gi pang sulti ang current admin nga information against gloria..sa ka daghan wala jud sila ma file maski isa ka kaso


kasagaran dato (high profile people) sir.. completo na sa supporting documents/requirements ug mga legal fees
sa case ni gloria.. pirti baya ang publicity sa current admin

mao lagi kutob rasad sa istorya ambot sad gi lihok ug gi utingkay nila tong truckload of evidence. kuyaw kipa katulog lang ba. peru dili baya sad lalim mag utingkay isa ka truck nga papelis.

kita diay ani uyamot kung walay kuwarta dili ka depensa... dili diay ta tabangan sa governo. bantog ra daghan nag hoot sa prisohan.

[monroy]

susus..ang problema lang jud is ngano mo labag jud sa balaud..illegal ang pag WLO sa DOJ naa nay TRO sa SC..unya ngano ila man gihapon i deny sa pag larga?

kasohi usa bago sila mg deny sa tao sa ilang rights...

Basig nalibog sila doh.. nag huna huna sila.. unsa kahay meaning sa "illegal" kai basig ang meaning ani "legal".. or unsay meaning sa "final and executory" kai basig and meaning ani "not really final"

Kinsay pasanginlan nato ani? Ang SC ra pod.. kai ilahang gitagaan og bag-ong meaning ang "final".. see the PAL v PALEA case...

[tylerdurden]

You need to read between the lines. Lacson supporting this is a simple exercise in logic, he's covering for his own ass too, just in case he'll need the support of the PGMA-friendly Supreme Court to grant him a TRO to get out of the country again, just like he did in the past. The fact that he defied the justice system of this country by running away before he could be arrested, means his opinions regarding our justice system shouldn't be taken seriously.

And lay off the personal insults, hatorade? What the f*.. how old are you? You need to read carefully. Whether the SC is right or wrong isn't the issue I was trying to raise. What I asked is, how can the SC expect its decisions to be respected when the court itself doesn't follow its own rules nor that of the English language? Like I said, if final doesn't really mean final in another case, according to the SC itself, how can they insist that final really means final in this case? It boils down to moral authority. An institutional body that conducts itself with integrity and avoids controversy has more power than a body that has made a mockery of justice and become the butt of jokes in our region. Kasabot ka? It's about the lack of moral authority of the SC. I'm not excusing what noynoy gov is doing, I think a constitutional crisis is bad for the country but the thing is both noynoy and the SC are responsible for this.

Noynoy for defying the SC, and the SC for losing moral authority to the point that it can be defied without consequence. That's the problem.. people no longer respect the SC because they have lost the people's respect.

Awesome response. I'd also like to add that, while I think the administration is risking a lot going against the SC in this issue, I guess it had to happen sooner or later. The SC was always going to stand by its corruptor while hiding behind a thin facade of justice. Thus, it is a corrupting presence in the government and, given its powers, a very dangerous one at that.

The SC going against the admin was a battle that was going to happen anyway and I guess this issue is a good enough reason for the battle to commence.

[tylerdurden]

susus..ang problema lang jud is ngano mo labag jud sa balaud..illegal ang pag WLO sa DOJ naa nay TRO sa SC..unya ngano ila man gihapon i deny sa pag larga?

kasohi usa bago sila mg deny sa tao sa ilang rights...

that's really beside the point and, if you're going to go there, then it's fair for me to ask: if these people are without guilt, why are they so eager to get out of the country?

[fotbol101]

No one is above the law guys....Always read and understand first the fundamentals and that fundamentals is our Constitution...

I think we should change the first article of our Constitution..

Article 1...Read all this first before talking non-sense and bullshit arguments..

[yacky2006]

Basig nalibog sila doh.. nag huna huna sila.. unsa kahay meaning sa "illegal" kai basig ang meaning ani "legal".. or unsay meaning sa "final and executory" kai basig and meaning ani "not really final"

Kinsay pasanginlan nato ani? Ang SC ra pod.. kai ilahang gitagaan og bag-ong meaning ang "final".. see the PAL v PALEA case...

Mao bitaw naka libog ani.

Naapa toy ingon nila nga puwede nila bakwi-on ang TRO once ma usisa nila ang "facts". Unsay pasabot nila sa "facts" supporting material sa motion to reconsider. Diba wala pamay motion.

Ga libog na gyud ko sa statement sa SC oi....

[tylerdurden]

No one is above the law guys....Always read and understand first the fundamentals and that fundamentals is our Constitution...

I think we should change the first article of our Constitution..

Article 1...Read all this first before talking non-sense and bullshit arguments..

uh that's not quite right, man. while the constitution does list down the rules, it's all open to interpretation and, in the end it's the willpower to implement the rules that really matters.

[wildfire1203]

Suweto mag gyud ka bai naa ko pangutana.

1. Ngano man sad ang Arroyos Camp wala kahulat sa preliminary investigation? Dili man cguro life and death situation si Madam Gloria. Nganong atat-na-atat man gyud mo larga?

2. Ngano man ang SC dali kaayo naka review ug decide sa WLO? Daghan kaso dinha pending wala tagda.

3. Ngano man sad ang Arroyos wala ka hulat sa statement sa DOJ about sa SC TRO?

bro,tagsa-tagsaon nako ug answer imo questions.base ra pud ni sa ako opinion.
1.ngano ang arroyo's camp wala makahulat?obvious na kaayo,nga naa sila gikahadlokan...time is gold.and kung naa na sila sa gawas,moingon dayun ug, "catch me if you can",famous movie title man seguro ni,if i'm not mistaken.
2.Ngano man ang SC dali ra kaayo naka-review ug decide sa WLO?ikaw ba naman ang motan-aw ug utang na loob.remember that most of SC justices are arroyo appointees.and Chief justice Corona is arroyo's midnight appointee.
3. Ngano man sad ang Arroyos wala ka hulat sa statement sa DOJ about sa SC TRO?As i've said,time is gold for them.nagpa-book naman gani daan ug flights,imagine,5 bookings?as in,nakahibalo na sila daan kung unsa decision sa SC.

[AlbertCruz]

You need to read between the lines. Lacson supporting this is a simple exercise in logic, he's covering for his own ass too, just in case he'll need the support of the PGMA-friendly Supreme Court to grant him a TRO to get out of the country again, just like he did in the past. The fact that he defied the justice system of this country by running away before he could be arrested, means his opinions regarding our justice system shouldn't be taken seriously.

And lay off the personal insults, hatorade? What the f*.. how old are you? You need to read carefully. Whether the SC is right or wrong isn't the issue I was trying to raise. What I asked is, how can the SC expect its decisions to be respected when the court itself doesn't follow its own rules nor that of the English language? Like I said, if final doesn't really mean final in another case, according to the SC itself, how can they insist that final really means final in this case? It boils down to moral authority. An institutional body that conducts itself with integrity and avoids controversy has more power than a body that has made a mockery of justice and become the butt of jokes in our region. Kasabot ka? It's about the lack of moral authority of the SC. I'm not excusing what noynoy gov is doing, I think a constitutional crisis is bad for the country but the thing is both noynoy and the SC are responsible for this.

Noynoy for defying the SC, and the SC for losing moral authority to the point that it can be defied without consequence. That's the problem.. people no longer respect the SC because they have lost the people's respect.

Even with all those blunders by the SC, their past mistake still wont change the fact that allowing GMA to leave is within the Constitution. With or without the SC's decision, a person's right to travel cannot be taken away without probable cause. Stepping over the Constitution is the road to Tyranny