MERGED: Metro Cebu Road Development: Flyovers or Road Widening?

[peewee_toot]

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^^nice idea.

[amingb]

nindot jud ug padak-an ang karsada mao nay da best solution unta ... pero saon mana nimo pagpalapad ug dili na puede palapdan ... example diha sa gorordo ug uban pang mga intersection ... sa tinood lang ug wala pay Flyover diha sa Ayala ug did2 sa Banilad mas grabi jud ang traffic ...

[kreik101]

maski unsa pana kadaghan ang flyover ug unsa kalapad ang kalsada di gihapon na mawala ang traffic kung mao ra gihapon ang kinaiya sa mga tao...
saon ta man dependent man kaau ug sakyanan ang pinoy. duol ra unta sakay gihapon. sa uban nasod lakwon ra intawn nila or bike.
aw unsaon sad pag bike ug lakaw na pirting nipisa man sad sa sidewalk, gi alihan pajud ug vendor, mga atop nanglapas, nay kahoy sa tunga, basura, or poste.
Napay mga jeep na mamasahero atubangan sa 'no stopping anytime' na sign. (sigh)
napay gobyerno wa pa gani na palapdan ang kalsada gahimo na ug flyover. XD

[peewee_toot]

^^dili mn tanan pinoy ing ana. mostly lang cgro...

i do walk and/or use my bike baya. bahalag layo akong adtu-an.

[adrian7299]

Of course, they wouldn't stop building those flyovers. They get 20% for each flyover constructed!

With both flyovers costing P600M, now, you do the math on how much they get.

And now, clearly, they will push through this since they already received the 20%.

By they, of course, I mean a certain public official who is the mastermind of all these useless flyovers.


This public official seems do be doing nothing but planning these flyovers (constructed three already). Is that what keeps this official busy?

Of course it would make you think there is something in it for this official.


Flyovers are band aid solutions. The traffic has not eased around where these flyovers are made. They remain constant or even got worse.

Solutions for the traffic in this city is not to build more flyovers, but to:

1. Widen the roads.
2. Discipline the drivers.
3. Limit sale of vehicles.
4. Color/Number coding.
5. Encourage the use of mass public transport (PUV's, for now).

There are also several good solutions on earlier posts.

I suggest Government officials take time to read this thread. Especially "they".

[MugenRR]

What say you, people of Cebu?

MANILA, Philippines—Public Works Secretary Rogelio Singson has put on hold the construction of two flyovers in Cebu City following protests over the controversial projects.
Singson said he decided to order the suspension of the projects after meeting with leaders of civil society groups from Cebu.
He, however, said on Tuesday that the Department of Public Works and Highways would proceed with widening the intersections on streets where the flyovers were supposed to be built.
“Our position is, if the people of Cebu object to that, we would not insist,” Singson said.
“We have put on hold the construction of two flyovers in Cebu and instead we would proceed with the widening of those intersections,” he said.
The first planned flyover at the intersection of M.J. Cuenco Avenue and Gen. Maxilom Avenue costs P480 million while the second was supposed to have been built at the junction of Gorordo Avenue and Archbishop Reyes Avenue.
Singson said he would wait for Cebu City officials to complete a master plan for the city before deciding whether or not to proceed with the flyover project.
“That issue will come back again and again as civil society and NGOs oppose it,” Singson said.
He said that the construction of the flyovers was approved by the local government and other agencies.
“But if (civil society and NGOs) feel that most of those approvals were railroaded, then we said that is a different story,” Singson said.
“So, the agreement was that we would put on hold the construction of the two flyovers…instead, we would proceed with widening,” he added.
A group of nuns has joined protests against the flyovers, organizing prayer rallies and going on processions to press officials to stop the projects.
On Oct. 1, nuns belonging to the Daughters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul held a dawn procession at first to seek divine guidance on how to respond to threats posed by the flyover projects on parts of the nuns’ compound.
Part of the compound of the Asilo de la Milagrosa at Gorordo Avenue, the nuns’ home, sits on the path of the flyover projects.
DPWH officials earlier said they would redesign the projects to reduce their impact on the Asilo.
Augustinito Hermoso, legal officer of the DPWH in Central Visayas, said design changes have to be made to protect the Asilo compound.
Cebu politicians earlier tried to ride on the protests, issuing statements appealing to the project contractor, WTG Construction, to spare Asilo.
The nuns have the support of the 3,000-strong Movement for Liveable Cebu, a multisectoral group against the construction of more flyovers in Cebu.

Source:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/86569/d...yover-projects

[THE LAST CLONE]

samut ka traffic

[digitalsuperman]

Most of the istoryan here kept on pointing agency, government official na mao ni ang buhaton...

Why not mag organize ta ug grupo then mo observe ta sa daily activities aning mga officials or government agency related to urban planning and etc...

Let say unahan nato ang CITOM, mo side by side ta sa mga traffic enforcer maybe one week nya atong e document in form of video or anything na ma express nato ang atong na observe.

I think sa kani nga pama.agi, aside na makat.on, makasabot ug ma-experience nato ilang trabaho at the same time we can give them fresh ideas from people nga dili immune sa ilang systema.

Pero I doubt it kung naayo istoryan diri na mo agree ani nga IDEA..

this is a very good idea. anhi na mahibaw-an ang katag aning mga tawo diri if they want to be part of the solution or to just keep on complaining and be part of the problem.

[killerpol]

Why are some sects oppose the construction of overpass?

[mindtrickz]

baka flyover?