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  1. #71

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    there's no reason to debate or to argue who is at fault. they are already dead.... they're gone. maybe both parties has it's flaws....

    i don't think sad na gibali wala jud nila ilang papa or unsa kay the eldest daughter learned how to drive kay mismo iyang papa nagtudlo nya... and for sure nagkabonding jud to sila and etc.

    okay! we can say that sabton lang, respetohon, adjust.... and etc. what if they did? long time ago... and it still didn't work but, instead it got worse.... even worst? i don't think they will just abandon their father after the accident. i think they too suffered and for sure nag-adjust sa ilang papa. what more can you do with that? maybe it depends how grave the problem is.

    @ilovedogs: maybe your situation was tolerable than theirs? (we don't know)

    kasabot ta tanan sa point na if naa moy family member na mentally disturbed, you try to encourage, bond, boost up their self-confidence and do things with them and etc. it depends kung unsa say cause... drug abuse, alcohol abuse, traumatic experiences and etc. pero makasabot sad ta na 1s paranoid na ang taw, lisud jud na lalison ang iyang gusto huna-huna-on. naka deal kog mentally ill na person na with paranoia. naa jud lapses... sometimes ok but most of the time isug jud and aggressive. i need to give him sealed foods and drinks para mukaon kay he thinks ako siya gihilu-an if dili sealed... lisud jud kaayo lalison unsa naa sa iya utok. naa pay times na gukdon ka or mu-action manglabay og bato so mahadlok jud ka. hehehe even if sabton nato ang person who is suffering from a mental problem, naa jud tay limit. gi-limit nako ako exposure to him kay threat naman sad sa ako and to others. so ingon ana sad.

    i have a brother who is mentally disturbed sad. dili ill ha... hehehe different lang iya case. it's not paranoia, it's depression. naa nay suicidal attempts, threats or unsa pa but he's not inflicting pain to others or threats to kill someone so kani makaya ni og storya. kay self inflicting pain man iyaha so masmakaduol and masmakastorya ka nya compared sa aggressive na taw and isug, paranoid and naay history na ni-threat nimo patyon ka diba?

    so for 9-10years of beating sa papa nila og sa mama, maka ingon pa ba kaha tag na okay lang? normal ra ni... antos lang, sabot lang, and for the wife to sleep with her husband? naa nay times nag-attempt na patyon gud. gukdon kag sundang or knife... nahan paka mu-tapad og tulog? what if naka inum or unsa? dili kaha ka ma-paranoid basin dunggabon ka kalit while your sleeping? hehehe (scary diba?) for sure you will feel scared, unsecure and confused. actions are different from words.... maybe for those people na nag-nervous breakdown, manghagis, magthreat na patyon ang pamilya or self lahi ra jud if gibuhat na... and the father 1s poked the mother with a knife asking his children to defend their mother. we can't say sabton lang gihapon nato and the family should work together to make the father feel okay. that's a different story. let's not try to compare each other's situation with theirs, our interventions with theirs.... our interventions might be effective for us but doesn't mean it will also work with theirs. we need to assess the gravity of the problem. if kaya pa, pangita-an natog paagi. pero if dili na jud ma-dala? maskina imo na gibuhat tanan diba? matod pa sa mga parents... if mag-tantrums ang inyo anak, just ignore.... pahilaka lang and later on they will get tired and keep quiet. maybe they did the same thing everytime mag-yaw2 na ang papa or what. just like mag-uyab sad, nagger man jud ang babae most of the time. hehehe, so the boyfriend will just keep quite to cool down the fire. kaysa sila 2 puro hot, magsumpaki jud...

    this tragic event is a lesson for us all... this happened for a reason. kato naay problems sa family, try to look for ways how to make your relationship harmonious, free from anger, jealousy and work together as a family.

    I agree with jeremiahjay... The family plays an important role... it is not easy but nonetheless essential. basin ni abot lang guro jud ang time na nahutdan nasad sila og hope na ma okay ang tanan and nahadlok nasad jud sila sa mga gipangbuhat sa ila papa na dili nasad nila ma-tolerate and makaya so ni gave up nalang and we can't blame them kay we didn't experience what they've been through.

  2. #72

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    ^ ^ well said again Miss Krissy. I think the best position iss to stay neutral. not pass judge on both sides because whether we like it or not each situation is unique in itself.. I still believe that it is OGK (only God knows)...

  3. #73

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    hmmm.. nag wonder ku, nag away ba kaha ang grandparents on both sides sa.?

  4. #74

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    At the end, the welfare of the survivor is what matters. She may never be the same person that she once was.

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    Default Re: Droga, Selos, ug Sakit sa Pangutok...

    bsta gikan gyud head injuries, plus wa na work and family issues pa gyud.. lisud jud kau nga problema.. unta to ang kabanay mao'y ni adjust sa ilang papa and ilang gi-istorya og tarung kong unsa gyud ang problema sa ilang papa.. kan heart to heart talk bah...

  6. #76

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    Wala namay grandparents didto. Sisters and relatives of both parties. Natural naa juy tension between the 2. Dili jud na malikayan kay dili man gud natural death, terminal illness or accident ang cause. But for the sake of the spared daughter, wala nila gipadako ang tension kay ang bata ang ma-apektohan and dili maayo para sa iya kay makasamot sa trauma.

    Nag heart to heart talk na jud na for sure. Wala lang jud ni work out. Lisud man jud ng family issues oi. Kasuway nasad ko ana. Permi mi mag-away sad sa ako papa pero maskina unsa-on og sabot, care and etc... Wala jud siyay paki. Kay iyang huna2 mao ra jud. So makasabot sad ko sa mga anak if ever napuno nasad sila og sabot.

    They're all dead and will never come back to life. So the main issue here is how is embre going to cope up with this traumatic experience? How will her relatives help her cope up? Mao nani ang angay hatagan og importance karon.

  7. #77

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    naa kunoy magpakita nga "GHOST" sa balay. creepy...

  8. #78

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    maluoy ko sa bata nabilin

  9. #79

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    wa lng jd cla g dahum nga m ing ana mahitabu nla. kadtung nay ing ani nga sitwasyun d lng jd mo kumpyans

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    victim ni ang killer sa depression og hatred, sayop gyud ang pamilya if walay paghinigugmaay...
    og ang asawa naka bantay na ani before, of course she would fine some counseling, or some psychiatric
    evaluation about her husband.,. ang nakasayup lang is she's not minding him coz she is also a victim of insanity...astang paita, pwerti ka trauma sa mga tawo ani...maka ingon gyud ang tawo ani, unsa naman ning
    mga demonyoha oi...

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