Are gays and lesbians normal?

[ketllac]

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often too we forget we are simply in a forum with a simple question and our opinions are are own and should be simply respected by others.

OT: sakto ni sa laing aspeto. but hinumdumi nga ang truth is higher than anything including respect and religion. ang nakalisod ani, unsaon pag tuki tuki sa kamatuoran at the same time respecting other views. Since this is a forum, then we all have the right to scrutinize other views and opinions if it 's factual and truthful.

[eezychair]

^^ Fact: It is difficult to argue with science that has determined that a being having a male organ is indeed a male and that if the organ is female, then so is that being. Science has yet to find anything else in between other than hermaphrodites who are of course out of the norm and therefore abnormal.

Truth is indeed higher than anything. So what now is the truth after that fact?

[Scott Bernard]

... maypa ang mga iro, dili pa mag unay ug hinabalay ang mga lalaki...

[ketllac]

^^ Fact: It is difficult to argue with science that has determined that a being having a male organ is indeed a male and that if the organ is female, then so is that being. Science has yet to find anything else in between other than hermaphrodites who are of course out of the norm and therefore abnormal.

Truth is indeed higher than anything. So what now is the truth after that fact?

Ok thats a fact but a fact remains a fact. It is not yet a conclusion because it is still a premise. You still have important thing to do with that fact and that is to make a conclusion. Now lemme ask you about that fact, can you make a valid argument that "having a male organ is indeed a male and that if the organ is female" would connect to a conclusion that it is abnormal?

[eezychair]

^^ I think you're stretching it for the sake of your argument.

Here's a truth though. I am not homophobic and neither do I discriminate against abnormality. I have high regard for gays and lesbians (as they are called) and do have friends and family who belong to this 'gender'. I have accepted that. But unless forms start printing 'gay and lesbian' beside male and female for gender, then you yourself cannot conclude that that is still not within what is 'normal'.

[eezychair]

... maypa ang mga iro, dili pa mag unay ug hinabalay ang mga lalaki...

Now that, I really wonder why... perhaps another interesting thread topic under science?

[ketllac]

@eezychair

hahahaa. You are talking about scientific fact but you forgot that you still have the responsibility to make a conclusion basing on that premises. That is simply a naturalistic fallacy.

But unless forms start printing 'gay and lesbian' beside male and female for gender, then you yourself cannot conclude that that is still not within what is 'normal'.

your argument is simply a false dichotomy.
again, how can you connect gay and lesbian sexual preferences to abnormality.?

[Peacefulguy]

Daghan man mu ingon "Normal ra, kay tao man sila parehas nato.." So, unsa diay pag tan-aw nila sa kanang mga tao pud nga naa sa mental institutes? Di diay na sila tao? So normal ra sila kay w/ feelings pud? Nya unsaon taman nga lahi man ug feelings ang mga gay/lesbians, just like the people who are mentally insane, they have different feelings too.

Para nako, abnormal ang mga in-between. Exception sa mga hermaphrodites though. Just imagine how humanity would survive, and how chaotic it would be if we all fall under 1 s3x.

[ketllac]

@Peacefulguy

naa kay point bai nga feelings are not basis aron matawag ang tawo nga abnormal kay naa man sad nay feelings ang mental patient and gi brand na sila as abnormal sa mga expert

sa mental hospital naa nay valid nga criteria nga matawag ang mental patient nga abnormal nga gibase sa DSM -Diagnostic statistical manual sa mga psychological abnormalities. Pero mo disagree ko anang imong premise nga "dili mo survive ang humanity kung third *** ang majority" nga mo konekta sa conclusion nga sila abnormal. lagpas na nga logic part.

[Scott Bernard]

I have a few friends, and some distant relatives who are "gay".

Even if they are like that, I treat, respect and look at them as a man, not another 3rd s3x gender.

Still, I do not encourage them on making gay activities.

Another thing, I have no problem with those who are gayish, or binabaye ang lihok. The line is tripped when gay s3xual activities arises.