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[Ramini]

In celebration of the Lion King's 2nd success at the box office with its "3d" reissue that raked in $29.3 million..not bad for a reissued film..i wouldn't say 2d is dead..i like 3d i enjoy it but it doesn't catch my attention wholeheartedly as traditional animation does.

you can read more about this news here and here thanks to Cartoon Brew

and a delightful array of Scar pencil test from the awesome Andreas Deja

Scar pencil tests - YouTube

[jnom]

2D is not dead just stagnant. 3D is growing but becoming too mainstream and now everyone can do it. In 5-10 years animators will earn as much as print designers, manga artist, in-betweeners, which is to say just above minimum salary. Lol.

The new age of animation. This is mocap with Lightwave 3D and Jimmyrigger
Kinect Jimmy|Rig Motion Capture Test - YouTube

Kinect Live Motion Capture with JimmyRig - YouTube

Ipisoft and brekel have their own version.

[Ramini]

@Jnom

2d has never been stagnant..it is very much alive. Only the people has become stagnant, people's minds that is..3d is one overrated medium which should be only be used sparingly.

[jnom]

Like any medium, black/white/color tv, film, time passes and things become passe. 2D is passe. if you would work as a 2D character animator nowadays good luck feeding your family. The only profitable thing for 2D character animators is to teach animation. But that is also going away because the young animators don't believe they need to know how to draw.
3D is overrated and sometimes automated but sad to say its what viewers want.
3D stereo is another fad that keeps coming and going and people always say its a fad but the amount of investment from the game, movie, hardware industry will make it a household name this time. Its not going away and I'm very annoyed to render twice the frames for stereo projects. Lol.

[Ramini]

2D character animator nowadays good luck feeding your family..

I wouldn't say that totally...you should look at artbooks made from 3d cartoons..you should check out Cartoon Brew more often jnom. 2d is the skeleton for 3d cartoons only crazy and mindless executives, directors and studios. Brad Bird's core crew were 2d animators and designers..Lou Romano, Teddy Newton, Tony Fucile etc. Tony Fucile who i think is not a quite knowledgeable in 3d softwares were the one together with Brad Bird and other guys goes around the studio checking 3d animator's output..traditional animation is the anchor of 3d animation..you can never say that 3d can live without 2d..perhaps in terms of technology but never in principles and techniques.

In my opinion 2d artists have a much longer range if you don't let them animate they can surely draw and you can place them as story artists or character designers which is vital in creating a 3d cartoon. 2d will always be there.

The only profitable thing for 2D character animators is to teach animation..

Cosmo Animato

Claire Keane

Inspector Cleuzo

Blackwing Sketchbook

the funkship

check out these guys..i don't know if they're teaching animation and even if they are..i don't think they're doing it full time.

But that is also going away because the young animators don't believe they need to know how to draw. .

I think that's the reason why 3d cartoons suck big time these days.

3D is overrated and sometimes automated but sad to say its what viewers want.
3D stereo is another fad that keeps coming and going and people always say its a fad but the amount of investment from the game, movie, hardware industry will make it a household name this time. Its not going away and I'm very annoyed to render twice the frames for stereo projects. Lol.

3D cartoons are overrated..for me .though some spark some attention but it is never really that memorable only a few of them really stand out. 3D is lucrative in the fields of special effects and video games. but taking a deeper look..i think it's not the platform that's actually overrated i think it's the stories that are overrated. People are focused too much on how impressive the effects are done how the textures are realistic..but the bottomline is you can never hide an ugly story.

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[jud_ith]

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[jnom]

I wouldn't say that totally...you should look at artbooks made from 3d cartoons..you should check out Cartoon Brew more often jnom. 2d is the skeleton for 3d cartoons only crazy and mindless executives, directors and studios. Brad Bird's core crew were 2d animators and designers..Lou Romano, Teddy Newton, Tony Fucile etc. Tony Fucile who i think is not a quite knowledgeable in 3d softwares were the one together with Brad Bird and other guys goes around the studio checking 3d animator's output..traditional animation is the anchor of 3d animation..you can never say that 3d can live without 2d..perhaps in terms of technology but never in principles and techniques.

In my opinion 2d artists have a much longer range if you don't let them animate they can surely draw and you can place them as story artists or character designers which is vital in creating a 3d cartoon. 2d will always be there.




Cosmo Animato

Claire Keane

Inspector Cleuzo

Blackwing Sketchbook

the funkship

check out these guys..i don't know if they're teaching animation and even if they are..i don't think they're doing it full time.



I think that's the reason why 3d cartoons suck big time these days.



3D cartoons are overrated..for me .though some spark some attention but it is never really that memorable only a few of them really stand out. 3D is lucrative in the fields of special effects and video games. but taking a deeper look..i think it's not the platform that's actually overrated i think it's the stories that are overrated. People are focused too much on how impressive the effects are done how the textures are realistic..but the bottomline is you can never hide an ugly story.

I have no doubt 2D animation and principles are essential. But if you focus on it too much you will be left behind. 3D software is getting more and more complex and the field is getting more competitive and congested. Learn the principles as quickly as you can then move to 3D where there's still some livelihood left.
2D is a deadend job. Maybe because anyone with practice can learn how to draw and use a pencil. That's my belief anyway. I drew everything from western to japanese to classical style art since I was a kid up to college. But it will take you nowhere especially in the philippines.

Interesting to read up on veteran animators. Story two is quite common.
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Like it or not, no matter how ugly the story is, people do watch these 3D flicks especially the kids who really don't need a deep engaging story.
My point is not to be disillusioned about 2D animation and end up with nothing.

[Ramini]

@Jnom

problema sa ikaduha wla sya ni participate sa Union which wasn't a very smart move to do in the very beginning of his career..nag strike gani ang Disney pag 1941 nag lockout pd ang Warners just to unionize the industry hence, the animation guild was born..aimed at uplifting the financial and work opportunities of its member. whether 2d ka or 3d so he should've thought better.. kabaw ka bai noh..there's a huge amount of work available to you even if you don't know 3d..3d is not the beginning nor the end of the entertainment industry. 3d is a very broad subject you can't say EVERYTHING 3d is a gold mine.

2D is a deadend job.

I am flabbergasted at this post that 2d is a deadend job..you didn't even say what kind or aspect of 2d that you say is a deadend job..have you picked up an artbook from your favourite 3d animated feature lately?..pick up one and tell me again that 2d is a deadend job..pick up any artbook from any popular video game..and tell me that 2d is a deadend job the mobile phone gaming industry is booming right now..most of them are flash animated which is in 2d. Please take a look at these links and tell me again that 2d is a deadend job.

Art Jobs for the Art Mobs Full-Time Positions - Concept/ 2D Artist

Art Jobs for the Art Mobs Collaborations - 2D Animator - London Based Studio

Art Jobs for the Art Mobs Full-Time Positions - Senior Concept Artist (Temporary)

Art Jobs for the Art Mobs Full-Time Positions - Senior 2D Artist

Art Jobs for the Art Mobs Full-Time Positions - Senior Concept Artist

Art Jobs for the Art Mobs Small Freelance - 2d artist for mobile games-ENTRY

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again tell me that 2d art is a deadend job.

Like it or not, no matter how ugly the story is, people do watch these 3D flicks especially the kids who really don't need a deep engaging story.

oh yeah the Zemeckis films was so HUGE at the box office..so huge even the people working on it earned the ire of the animation community.

especially the kids who really don't need a deep engaging story.

yeah!! let's feed our kids garbage since they're too little to notice it..you know what take a good look at this job posting from Pixar Canada..and tell me again that a good story is not a requirement..hmm i guess not at Pixar..Well at least there's Zemeckis' studio that's hiring people who're not too keen on story nor on technical creativity.

Pixar Canada Jobs

My point is not to be disillusioned about 2D animation and end up with nothing.

expand your knowledge of 2d or anything from your craft and you will never run out of work..the link that you showed us is just a simple mistake of not joining the Union. I think it has nothing to do with the skills.

the equation should be like this

SKill and Talent+ Insatiable Researching,Innovative Thinking and Approach + Positive Outlook in your chosen craft + Unwavering Perseverance = Rewarding Job be it in 2d or 3d animation

Dude, please don't say such things..it's really insulting.

PS: OH YEAH!! ANIMEE!!! that's 2d! now tell me that 2d is a deadend job..i haven't heard of any news of japanese 2d animation artists going hungry nowadays.. now tell me again that 2d is a dead end job!!

[Ramini]

To further my claim that 2d animation is not dead..here's a website for the annula OTTAWA INTERNATIONAL ANIMATION FESTIVAL and its 2011 WINNERS

And also our local ANIMAHENASYON


CalArts, Sheridan College, Vancouver Film School, Ringling College etc. have their own respective 2d and 3d animation programs. 2d animation graduates aren't just equipped with skills in traditional animation principles but also have solid foundation in drawing and character design which could also land them jobs as Story Artists, Concept Designer, Character Designer etc.