daghana mag genius diri oi. sge pamo masters. tubag tubag tubag
daghana mag genius diri oi. sge pamo masters. tubag tubag tubag
original sin?
ngano d.li man ma wagtang ang original sin. ngano ang bata na.an may original sin, bisan binunyagan man ang iyang mama ug papa. dili ba ang bunyag maka papas sa original sin?
mao ra ba ni nga sala nga dili malimtan sa ginoo? pwede di ay ta maka inherit ug sala?
1. Si Pedro nga na hisgotan sa Mathew dili and labing una nga santo papa. Ang roman catholic religion wala ma establish until after more than 200 A.D. Christianity on the other hand was established right after the death of Jesus. (Acts).
2. Purgatory wala ma hisgotan ni Jesus. Wala ni siya sa bible. (4x na ko naka round trip og basa sa bible)
3. Judgement happens during judgement day (2nd coming of Christ), and right after the death of a person. Sa ato pa, bisan unsaon nato ug hangyo kung na impiyerno na dili na ma usab ang disisyon sa Ginoo. (Luke 16 - Parable of the rich man and Lazarus)
Dili jud ni about religion. Relasyon sa Ginoo ang maka luwas sa tawo pinaagi na Jesus.
religion nako catholic man jud pero dli ko mu basa ug bible or memorize ug prayer.... ang ako lang mangurus ug salig lang sa ginuo kung mu ad2 simbahan ug e sulti lang ang mga sala
pero ang nasabtan rajud nako sa tanan!!!
LIHOK PARA TABANGAN KA SA GINUO!!!!
Biblical Elements Of Purgatory
The definition of the Catholic Church on the existence of purgatory is derived from Sacred Scripture and the Sacred Tradition, which Christ promised would enable the Church to interpret Scripture without error. In particular, the Church relied on the writings of the early Fathers in defining this article of faith.
The classic text in the Old Testament bearing witness to the belief of the Jewish people in the existence of a state of purgation where souls are cleansed before entering heaven is found in the Book of Maccabees. Judas Maccabeus (died 161 BC) was a leader of the Jews in opposition to Syrian dominance, and Hellenizing tendencies among his people. He resisted a Syrian army and renewed religious life by rededicating the temple; the feast of Hanukkah celebrates this event.
In context, Judas had just completed a successful battle against the Edomites and was directing the work of gathering up the bodies of the Jews who had fallen in battle. As the bodies were picked up, it was found that every one of the deceased had, under his shirt, amulets of the idols of Jamnia, which the Law forbade the Jews to wear. Judas and his men concluded that this was a divine judgment against the fallen, who died because they had committed this sin of disobedience. The sacred writer describes what happened next:
So they all blessed the ways of the Lord, the righteous Judge, who reveals the things that are hidden and fell to supplication, begging that the sin that had been committed should be wholly blotted out.
And the noble Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves from sin, after having seen with their own eyes what had happened because of the sin of those who had fallen. He also took a collection, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, each man contributing, and sent it to Jerusalem, to provide a sin offering, acting very finely and properly in taking account of the resurrection. For if he had not expected that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead; or if it was through reward destined for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore he made atonement for the dead, so that they might be set free from their sin (2 Mac 12:42-46).
The Maccabean text shows that Judas, and the Jewish priests and people believed that those who died in peace could be helped by prayers and sacrifices offered by the living. Luther denied the canonicity of seven books of the Old Testament (the Deuterocanonical books), including the two books of Maccabees. But even if the text were not inspired, as an authentic witness to Jewish history in pre-Christian times it testifies to the common belief in a state of purgation after death and in the ability to help the faithful departed by prayers of intercession on their behalf. Jewish tradition since the time of Christ supports this view.
There are also certain passages in the New Testament that the Church commonly cites as containing evidence of the existence of purgatory. In the Gospel of Matthew, Christ warns the Pharisees that anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven either in this world or in the next (Mt. 12:32). Here Christ recognizes that there exists a state beyond this world in which the penalty due for sins, which were pardoned as to guilt in the world, is forgiven. St. Paul also affirms the reality of purgatory. In his first letter to the Corinthians, he says that "the fire will assay the quality of everyone's work," and "if his work bums he will lose his reward, but himself will be saved, yet so as through fire" (1 Cor 3:13, 15). These words clearly imply some penal suffering. Since he connects it so closely with the divine judgment, it can hardly be limited to suffering in this world, but seems to include the idea of purification through suffering after death, namely in purgatory.
read this link for better details (not limited to): Catholic Culture : Library : The Doctrine Of Purgatory
Sure ka ani? Kung wala pa matukod ang church before 200 A.D., nganong duna man lagi pope sa tuig 76 A.D.?
Pope Saint Linus (d. ca. 76) was, according to several early sources, Bishop of the diocese of Rome after Saint Peter.
Linus is presented by Jerome as "the first after Peter to be in charge of the Roman Church", by Eusebius, as "the first to receive the episcopate of the church at Rome, after the martyrdom of Paul and Peter"
src: Pope Linus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Unsa man ang imong source nga nakaingon man ka nga wala pa'y catholic church before 200 A.D. ?
balik sa pangutana ngano manguros ang mga katoliko....kami naga tuo sa sola verbum nga usa kay the apostolic TRADITION ug ang BIble sa tradition manguros ta para timailhan ug pahinumdum nga sa ngalan sa amahan/ si Jesus nagagikan sa amahan. sa anak/ni kanaug gkan sa langit ug gipakatawo. sa espirito/mo sangyaw sa maayong balita sa hudyo. santo/mo sangyaw sa maayong balita sa mga gentiles. ang patern sa agtang-tiyan-sa wala nga bukton dayon sa tuo. tradition nmn na gud naandan na ba. tabang rman na para makahinmudum ka ni cristo. kung dibatihon ko nin.u ay nalang kay di ta magdaog kay inyo ko labayan sa in.u sola scriptura unya mag sige ko pasabot nin.u sa atong sola verbum. hehehe!!!
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aw sa pangutana diay sa TS misahan na na ang naghikug mao na bag.o mando sa simbahan. google lang nganu hehehe!!!
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