MERGED: Metro Cebu Road Development: Flyovers or Road Widening?

[sizzlingROBOT]

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In my opinion, what the city needs are traffic enforcers present in particular intersections in the city where private cars and public utility vehicles clogged up especially on rush hours. With their presence, they could orchestrate the flow of traffic at least.

Bahala ug hinay basta kanunay ang dagan sa mga sakyanan.

What do you think of this? shouldnt we widen the roads first before building a flyover? why is a cebu politician so into it?

[carbrill]

flyovers are not the solutions kay igo ra ila gipa lupad ang dalan nya ika naog sa mga cars mao gihapon gamay ang dalan... ang dalan ta nila ipa widen... ila ta ni giplanohan ug gi implement kadtong di pa daghan ang mga sakyanan...

[neil11]

while the govt mandated process requires public consultation prior to implenting programs using taxpayer funds.the
delmars failed to do do this.they also held the bidding for the
flyovers in DPWH Manila.one can ask why the secrecy from the cebuano
public.the very constituency-interests congressmen are said to
represent?these are all symptoms of bad governance.for what purpose one should ask?the public knows all too well.

[neil11]

the roads will be like a roller coaster na like EDSA

[Harvie]

Building flyovers will diminish the value of historical sites in the city, like the Asilo dela Milagrosa Church on Gorordo Avenue, and “kill” nearby businesses, said Cebu City Mayor Michael Rama yesterday.

“Cebu City is an old city, a compact city. Flyovers will only kill nearby businesses. We don’t really need flyovers now. What we really need is road widening,” he said.

The mayor repeated his desire for the national government to spend first for a traffic master plan and alternative cost-efficient solutions like “flared intersections” and road widening.
Construction of two new flyovers is expected to start this year along the intersections of M. J. Cuenco and Mango Avenue, and along Gorordo and Archbishop Reyes Avenue ( passing by the Asilo church), pubilc works officials announced in an Aug. 26 public forum.

Rep. Rachel “Cutie” del Mar of Cebu’s north district said the national government has already approved release of a total of P600 million for the two projects while several businessmen and the Cebu Cit Traffic Operations Management (Citom) said flyovers should be set aside temporarily until the city comes up with a traffic and infrastructure master plan to guide solutions to traffic congestion.

Four students and youth groups in Cebu City have joined the call for a city-wide master plan.

“We are not against the flyover project. If it’s really needed we will even support it. But we want the assurance that its construction is needed,” said Paulo Saberon, president of the Cebu City Federation of Supreme Student Councils and Governments (SSG).

SSG officials and members from the different colleges and universities in the city gathered Tuesday and expressed their dismay over the lack of consultation on the proposed flyovers.

Yesterday morning, Saberon and officials of the Cebu Bloggers Society, the Cebu Youth Ambassadors and the Student Council Alliance of the Philippines -Cebu called for a press conference to relay their stand to Rep. del Mar through the media.

Saberon said that bloggers were also posting articles on the Internet on their concerns on the proposed flyover projects.

He said that they also intend to come up with a social networking site for the same purpose.
“Hopefully the concerned government officials will also consider the voices of the various youth sectors… Our group decided to organize because we want government officials to know that we also have a stand on the issue,” he said.

“What we are asking for is consultation and a masterplan. Lets invite some experts to do a thorough study before we proceed with any flyover construction,” said Saberon, a BSBA major in marketing student of the University of Cebu Banilad campus said.

Saberon said his group is with the opinion that the DPWH traffic study which they used as basis in determining the need for a flyover project is not enough.

“We need a guarantee nga dili lang sila mag construct ug flyover because the money is already there,” he said.

Rama said he is happy that the youth sector is airing their sentiments.

“Let the people be heard because that is the most important thing,” he said.

Rama said he would write President Benigno Aquino III to express his concern about adding flyovers in the city.

He said he is negotiating with Gov. Gwen Garcia to widen a province-owned lot leading to Beverly Hills subdivision to l help decongest traffic in the Lahug area.

He is also considering extending a road from “The Walk” at the AsiaTown IT Park to the vicinity of the old Cebu city jail. This road can continue to Pino Restaurant in Campo and connect to Marco Polo Hotel, serving as a parallel road to the hotel.

He said the solution to the traffic problem along M.J. Cuenco avenue is not a flyover but wider roads.

“Other countries try to preserve their historical sites. With flyovers, we destroy the skyline, kill business and still not solve traffic congestion,” he said.

Rama said the best solution to traffic congestion is exercising of road discipline, road widening, technology and improvement of the existing traffic system.

As part of a long term solution, Rama is also pushing for the construction of bridge that would connect Cebu City to Cordova town. He said that the availability of said bridge is expected to decongest traffic at the Mandaue Mactan bridges.

Kudos to Mayor Mike.

Source: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/51873/f...ays-mayor-rama

[aguanta]

some fly-overs murag wa pud kaayo mapusli. tinuod mo-smooth ug kadyot... then both entry and exist are funnels.... kanang sa tabunok pananglit maghuot man at both ends... the same dinha sa banilad maghuot na padung sa eruf.

[snifruz]

^^ kanang sa tabunok tungod ra pod na sa MGA WAY DISIPLINA NGA DRAYBER labi ng bus/multicab/traysikel... mga inatay ra ng mga draybera, mohunong man noon after sa flyover kay mokuha ug pasahero.. ignorante/way disiplina = epic fail... bisan pa mobuhat sila ug flyover kada eskina ug naay way disiplina nga drayber way mahitabo sa trapiko diri sa sugbu..

[neil11]

please do support creating a master plan first before putting up any fly overs by liking the page:

No to More 2 LANE Cebu Flyovers | Facebook

it will help a lot

[raphz]

flyovers are juz temporary solutions. we all know it as makita jd. near waterfront n sa banilad. 4 lanes may do last long ky di man ma bottleneck ang traffic pero naa sd jud enforcers nga ma assign ky naa dghan au abusado pasjero-an na drivers kalit lang hunong kilid ky naa mo para or kanaog. mamaau jud ang road widening ky n cases naa mabangga or accidents or any obstacles nga naa sa dalan...so at least naa pa jud space. kung flyover lang gud ky every big crossings rman na.... msdghan ang advatages n benefeciaries sa wider roads than flyovers. apil na ang business dnha na side ky kung imo shop naa sa ubos flyover, hinay jud na. =)

[audi]

What do you think of this? shouldnt we widen the roads first before building a flyover? why is a cebu politician so into it?

i think it must be done cuz we oath to be industrialized not later 2015... we the developing country signed an oath for that... dont problem a thing which is not a problem yet. rama was just trying to make noise thats it. if i where rama i must enforce the lrt or mrt... so no more widening and traffic is not a problem..