Bishop confirms he has custody of priest accused of rape

[Crimson_Viper]

daghana nang balita bahin rape uy.. na unsa namaning kalibutan..

EOTW na cguru jud..

1st c sir, ngayun c father.? hay naku father, sumabay ka nlng sa amin ngayung sabadu.. punta kami sa kamagayan..

[pinoy_09]

Di na ko mahibong kung ma close ni nga thread - naay mod diri nga kusog kaayo mo protekta sa simbahan bisag kahibaw na ang kadaghanan sa ilang mga baho !! Mu ingon dayon "redundant topic . Locking this" . Ma-redundant na hinoon nga naay rape nahitabo sa sulod sa "balay sa ginoo" ...

Tinoud man sad, redundant man gyud, kay mao nama'y binuhatan sa simbahan, so this is nothing new. So redundant, right? Haha

On topic: It should be clear by now that no one, including the Church, should be above the law. It is the nature of these bishops to "protect" his "people" in whatever means necessary. So why don't the authorities find and chase this perv and put him in handcuffs instead? I don't know the circumstances surrounding this case, but it seems to me that until now no authority has ever touched this priest.

Mu ana raba dayun ni'ng mga pulis nga they're at the moment trying to find something to charge the priest with. hahahaha

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ FAQ ...

You need to get your shit straight here otherwise you will end up playing the numbers game .

@ ALL ...

The title alone speaks for itself . Put all the factors you can gather up why such HATRED can be brewed here .

- GABRIELA was involved and interfered , you guys used to not like them yet this time ok kaayo because naa man sila sa side ninyo .

- ACCUSED is a very sensitive word . Put yourself sa shoes sa ACCUSED and people call you a RAPIST , unsya paminaw ninyo ?

- The title says it all , it may sound arrogant yet it promotes FAIRNESS where the subject is bound for INVESTIGATION .

- Puro mo VIOLENT REACTION dayon . Wait for the investigation and ma hukoman ang accuses before mo mo sulti ug angay siya patyon , kinsay ga tinabangay ra , etc . Kamo na lang pag PULIS .

Ang mindsetting man gud ninyo , naka programmed na daan . Give fairness to people who are involved specially on sensitive cases and issues like these . It doesnt justify anything just because naay known , proven etc na sexual abuse done by erring priest , tanan na lang mabalita is tinuod . If naa mo panglantaw on the separation of the state and church then it should speak for itself , let the JUSTICE do the talking by CONVICTING the erring priest .

Lastly ... if I wanted this thread to be LOCKED ... I can do it on my discretion . There is an existing thread that houses all the issues about the CATHOLIC CHURCH . If I lock this , unsay problema diay ? I would like to hear it from you Mr. FAQ unsay problema .

[FAQ]

Tinoud man sad, redundant man gyud, kay mao nama'y binuhatan sa simbahan, so this is nothing new. So redundant, right? Haha

On topic: It should be clear by now that no one, including the Church, should be above the law. It is the nature of these bishops to "protect" his "people" in whatever means necessary. So why don't the authorities find and chase this perv and put him in handcuffs instead? I don't know the circumstances surrounding this case, but it seems to me that until now no authority has ever touched this priest.

Mu ana raba dayun ni'ng mga pulis nga they're at the moment trying to find something to charge the priest with. hahahaha

Right ! Especially it's not shocking anymore to hear priests committing rape or accused of such .

Although the police or the prosecution can't throw this perv to jail if they don't have a reasonable cause . They must have a legit evidence to hold him in jail . This will give a lot of time for the perv to seek an asylum at the Holy See Embassy in Manila !

[hitch22]

That's why I have high respect for that priest, Fr. Salve, who died from a heart attack last year, in anticipation of a threesome with two hookers inside a motel. The moral lesson here is, one of the tenets of civilized behavior is mutual agreement. In the case of priests raping kids, that's just blatant predatory behavior. I find no need to rush to his aid...on the contrary, I find urgent need to charge and arrest him and let him have his day in court. No cover-ups, please.

In the case of the Fr. "Idol" Salve who hired the services of professionals, it was a valid transaction. The buyer and seller mutually agreed on the price and the type of service. It was just unfortunate that the transaction couldn't be consummated due to a disclaimer that was ignored: WARNING- consult with your doctor before engaging in a threesome.

[FAQ]

@SPRINGFIELD

I saw it coming that I would get an infraction from you but for "disrespecting a moderator" ?? I wonder where in my post I demonstrated any disrespect even though my post were all indeed was accurate to your stance as a moderator . Don't you always defend the church everytime they're in the middle of public criticism ? How many threads have you closed because the allegations and criticism were posted are contrary to your opinion , beliefs and religion ?

But I'm not surprised ! You have close ties to the owner of this forum and you can pretty much do whatever you want . You have your own opinion and everyone has their own , why don't you respect theirs as we live in a democratic country after all although some may be against yours .

OnT: Guilty people do guilty things . Cabonce went hiding when the victim started spilling the beans about her unpleasant experiences inside the convent . Hiding won't help his case . Go figure ...

Giving him FAIRNESS doesn't mean the court of law has to treat him as innocent per se and to empathize , that's NOT the real concept of PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE . The only FAIRNESS the People of the Philippines can give to Cabonce are (as stated in the 1987 Constitution) ... the right to a FAIR trial , legal counsel and to be heard in the court . Now that "Leah" is pressing charges , Cabonce won't have to prove anything because the burden of proof will be on the prosecution who must demonstrate that he's guilty beyond reasonable doubt .

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[mudskipper77]

I feel sad every time I hear news like this but my faith is in God and not on the priests that are just human as we are. They commit mistakes and if proven guilty I would love to see them punished too.

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On Dicks and Double Standards: Misplaced Reactions to Misplaced Phalluses

Posted on 30 August 2011 by Red Tani. Tags: CCP, Christianity, Freedom of expression, hypocrisy, Mideo Cruz, Roman Catholic Church, separation of church and state, theocracy
An artist puts a dick on a poster of Jesus and on a symbol of the Christian cross. A priest puts a dick inside the mouth and vagina of a 17-year-old girl. Which is more offensive? Which is more deserving of a Christian’s disgust and damnation?
When conservative Catholics learned of Mideo Cruz’s juxtaposition of Jesuses and phalluses in an art gallery in the Cultural Center of the Philippines, they were furious. They wanted heads to roll — at least Mideo’s — and heads to resign — whoever was in charge of displaying Mideo’s blasphemy.
They wrote and sent hate mail, hate text, and even death threats, harassing anyone who had the slightest thing to do with Mideo’s sacrilege. They created Facebook groups and pages to express their hate for Mideo and to get others to hate him just as much. They condemned artist and artwork, saying these were not artist and artwork, even lecturing experts on what it means to be both. They vandalized Mideo’s “artwork” and called the violence justified. They called for a Senate investigation and even a national Day of Penance, showing how the entire country should be angry at and sorry for what Mideo did to their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
But Mideo never really hurt anyone — Jesus least of all — with his work. The degree of hurt brought about by offense is debatable, but one thing is clear: he did not hurt anyone physically.
Compare that to what was done to a girl who was hurt so badly she now has to hide behind a fake name. “Leah” filed charges of rape, acts of lasciviousness, and child abuse against Fr. Raul Cabonce of St. Anne Parish in Tubay, Agusan del Norte.
If we’re to believe Leah, Fr. Cabonce forcefully molested her on several occasions, groping her private parts despite her protestations. Fr. Cabonce forced Leah to perform oral s3x at least twice. He did this so violently that he made her gums bleed. The sexual harassment and assault eventually escalated to rape.
Talking about an experience like this would be difficult for anybody, but Fr. Cabonce made sure it would be torture for Leah. He threatened to curse Leah and her family if she told anyone. He also made sure Leah saw the guns in his room whenever he sexually assaulted her. Spiritual and physical blackmail.
For what he’s allegedly done, all that Fr. Cabonce got was a transfer to a different diocese, far away from his former servant and sexual object, safe and comfy in a Bishop’s palace.
How did conservative Catholics react to the news of Fr. Cabonce and Leah? What was the reaction of those who so furiously condemned Mideo and the CCP board? Did they send hate mail and death threats? Did they create Facebook groups and pages? Did they doubt Fr. Cabonce’s priesthood or question the authority of those who decided he could be one? Did they ask anyone to resign? Did they commit violence and call it justified? Did they call for a Senate investigation, Day of Penance, or even a public apology?
Mideo Cruz put phallic symbols on a symbol of Jesus and a symbol of his cross. None of the symbols refused. None of the symbols got hurt. Fr. Cabonce forced his actual dick into a living 17-year-old girl’s actual mouth. He eventually forced his actual dick into her actual vagina. In both instances, the girl refused. In both instances, the girl got hurt.
Which is more offensive? Which is more deserving of a Christian’s disgust and damnation?
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