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  1. #41

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan


    We have to consider the plausibility if we talk about existence. When you ask about the plausibility of God's existence, I would have to say it is implausible, because evidence through science says it is. Now you say, as theists tirelessly point out over and over again: Science cannot answer everything. Well, nobody would disagree, because science is not a BELIEF SYSTEM, but it sure is the best method to understand our cosmos.

  2. #42

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    duhay reaction nato ani TS either mo wonder ka nga it is an intelligent design or just a mere product of randomness. Pero bottomline ani is tayo at ikaw ay tuldok lang. Matud pa sa bandang Asin "Kaya wala kang dapat na ipagmayabangNa ikaw ay mautak at maraming alam. Dahil kung susuriin at ating iisipin Katulad ng lahat, ikaw ay tuldok rin" Now do you think nga credible ka mo conclude nga way Ginoo basin sa imong pag ka Fan ni Carl Sagan? hehehehe. di ka mauwaw.? joke lang ts..

  3. #43

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    We have to consider the plausibility if we talk about existence. When you ask about the plausibility of God's existence, I would have to say it is implausible, because evidence through science says it is. Now you say, as theists tirelessly point out over and over again: Science cannot answer everything. Well, nobody would disagree, because science is not a BELIEF SYSTEM, but it sure is the best method to understand our cosmos.
    That is true but the comparison of the BELIEF SYSTEM and the SYSTEMATIC APPROACH of SCIENCE is not a gage of the existence of something specially of a Supreme Being .

    When we say naay theist who are freethinkers , we cant easily label them as contradicting because susama nila , naa man pod mga scientist who believes ina Supreme Being . So di gyud ni siya pwede himuong basis .

    I say , SCIENCE and FAITH goes hand in hand . Just because we can gather all the evidences we can through science , it is not certain man pod or should I say guideline man lang na siya on a general context .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  4. #44

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    It depends on how you foresee LEGITIMACY by observing who conducted it . Not that SCIENCE is wrong but mind you , pwerting daghana pod na wala matubag sa SCIENCE and a lot also ni raise ang white flag sa science . So its either diha ra ka sa 2 kutob while still alive or you have to wait when you die to find it out the real score .
    sir, as what i've been saying here in YOUR forum, science can't provide the answers yet. but you see, every now and then, science has come up with a lot of breakthroughs. and one breakthrough opens another breakthrough, a domino effect. all this technologies, for our entertainment, and all this knowledge we have acquired at present, we should give credit to science.



    That is true but in most cases lang . Pero an age old story that goes like this " DI MAN NIMO MAKITA ANG UTOK NIMO , SO MEANING WALA DIAY KAY UTOK " contradicts it .

    Maski unsa na form na SCIENCE , kutob ra na sa pag critic sa FAITH but never nila na CONCLUDED sa RESEARCH na wala ni EXIST ang SUPREME BEING .
    yes, because science focuses on tangible things. things that can be seen, heard, smelled, touched, and felt by our senses. in science, there is NO GOD.

    That answers and sums it all . Pwerting layoa nila if na aman gani . Why worry about them ? They have their own issues also . You are here , enjoying the IT AGE , being able to discuss in the forums and live a life of fullness . Isnt that SPECIAL para nimo ?
    the IT age, this forum, the internet, the television are some of the things that gives us the pleasure. and that pleasure, is again, should be credited to science! imagine how boring this world is without the technologies being brought up by science?

    It dont matter and like I said , na sum up na nimo na sa previous reply nimo , adding also na INTELLIGENT man diay ta . So unsay kuwnag pa man aron ma special ka ? UBE ? ICE CREAM ? LECHE FLAN ?
    who knows? there could be far more intelligent beings than us here in the universe.

    We are special . Even on an EVOLUTION THINKING , kung di pa ka special nagpabilin ka na UNGGOY . Sa CREATION THINKING pod , special gihapon ka ! Liman ka you were made in the image and likeness of the Lord !
    we are special in a sense that we humans are at the top of the food chain, and we rule the world. but that "special" thing will vanish in the mind if we knew that we are not the only one's residing in this universe. ug sa dihang mangutana na sad ko, in-ana na jud ta kaspecial para kita ray mga species nga mabuhi diri sa universe ng 47 billion light years ang radius?!

  5. #45

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    Thank for reminding me of being a spec of dust ,

    it will change our paradighm
    exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    duhay reaction nato ani TS either mo wonder ka nga it is an intelligent design or just a mere product of randomness. Pero bottomline ani is tayo at ikaw ay tuldok lang. Matud pa sa bandang Asin "Kaya wala kang dapat na ipagmayabangNa ikaw ay mautak at maraming alam. Dahil kung susuriin at ating iisipin Katulad ng lahat, ikaw ay tuldok rin" Now do you think nga credible ka mo conclude nga way Ginoo basin sa imong pag ka Fan ni Carl Sagan? hehehehe. di ka mauwaw.? joke lang ts..
    sir, i just have one thing to ask you. show me your God and i'll believe in him.

  6. #46

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    @Lady Gaga

    sir, i just have one thing to ask you. show me your God and i'll believe in him.
    di mao ang punto.. kusog ka ingon nga kita irrelevant lang ta sa vastness sa universe. Kana sad imo gi preach nga walay ginoo to the extent nga bugal bugalan nimo ang mga believers, irrelevant sad nga opinion.. nganong wala man ka kakuha ug lesson sa imong gi post bahin anang speck of dust.. nga apil man ka ana..?

  7. #47

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    yeah i won't deny, i belong to that speck of dust that i'm referring. how did you come up with saying that it's an IRRELEVANT opinion to say there's no God? that doesn't measure a human. if you believe in God that doesn't make you more of a person. on the other hand, since i don't believe in God, i believe that it doesn't make me less of the person.

  8. #48

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    hahahahha sa kadako sa universe kana imong kinaiya nga sigeg offend sa belief sa believers irrelevant lang sad na apil na ako ha...mao nay pinaka punto dili imong pag katawo ako gi point ang imo opinion nga way ginoo. nganong naabot man ka anang less of a person. basin mestiso ka laki and mestiso babaye ka ha. hehehehe. malingaw ko nimo bayeet...

  9. #49

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    If ang Theist i question ani: Asa may Physical Proof sa Imung Ginoo?
    Tubag sa Theist: Walay Physical Proof ang Ginoo kay klaru kaayu naa sa Bibliya nga ang Ginoo Espiritu ug Di makita. Magpakita lang ang Ginoo ig Hukom or end of days Which is Wa pa niabot. Naa ang explanation sa Bibliya tanan kumpleto nah.

    If Ang Atheist i question ani: Asay imung Scientific Physical Proof nga naka ingun ka walay Ginoo? na explain na sa imu Science tanan butang para maka conclude ka anah?
    Tubag sa Atheist: DILI pa Ma- explain sa Science tanan butang, wa pa gani katunob ang tawo sa Pluto. Pero SURE ko walay Ginoo!

  10. #50

    Default Re: The Pale Blue Dot - Carl Sagan

    Quote Originally Posted by ketllac View Post
    hahahahha sa kadako sa universe kana imong kinaiya nga sigeg offend sa belief sa believers irrelevant lang sad na apil na ako ha...mao nay pinaka punto dili imong pag katawo ako gi point ang imo opinion nga way ginoo. nganong naabot man ka anang less of a person. basin mestiso ka laki and mestiso babaye ka ha. hehehehe. malingaw ko nimo bayeet...
    did i ever offended believers in this thread? wala raba jud! so ayaw pagpataka.

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