Do you believe in god?

[yanong_banikanhon]

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Simple ra gyud kaayo ang issue nga pirming likay-likayan sa mga atheist.

• The only thing we know that exists in nature and is capable of producing a sophisticated language is a conscious mind.
  
  
• Science knows that the instruction on what kind of cells and tissues to create as well as the key traits/characteristics of a living organism are written using a very sophisticated language (genetic language).
  
  
• Atheists INSIST that the genetic language came about in a random fashion, without the aid of any conscious mind. That assertion could be false OR true.

For that assertion to be true, the atheists should present:

1. A verifiable scientific evidence nga gawas sa usa ka conscious mind, there is another thing that exists in nature that is capable of producing a sophisticated language.
   
   
2. A verifiable scientific evidence that the thing mentioned in point no. 1 is the origin of the genetic language.

If they cannot provide the scientific evidences mentioned above, then:

1. Like the theists, THEY also believe in miracles (events that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature)
   
   
2. Their belief is not based on science but on faith. They have strong faith that theism is wrong.
   
   
3. Contrary to what most of them believe, science DOES NOT have the ULTIMATE power to decide what is true and what is false.

[twizted1031]

OT: naunsa na man tawn ni nga thread uy... simple ra unta jud kau ang question which needs a simple answer... nana lagi debate diri... hahai...

[pnkachoicebu]

It doesn't mean that if you can't see me I don't exist - wind

[yanong_banikanhon]

OT: naunsa na man tawn ni nga thread uy... simple ra unta jud kau ang question which needs a simple answer... nana lagi debate diri... hahai...

Mao bitaw unta. YES or NO ra man unta ang gikinahanglan diri. Pero unsaon, duna man gyu'y mga hilabtanon. Kusog kaayo magbugal2x sa pagtoo sa uban. Feeling nila sila na ang kinabraytan. Feeling nila ang ubang mga tawo mga walay alamag sa science maong dali ra patuohon og mga magic2x.

Ang angay untang buhaton, mo-respeto pagtoo sa uban. Dili magbugal2x. Tutal dili man pinugsanay ang atoa diri. Respeto lang gyud ang gikinahanglan. Kun feel gyud nimo nga 100% sure ka sa imong gituohan, be happy and most importanly, be humble. Don't go and shout in public places that your belief is right and all the other beliefs are wrong.

[bearish]

Simple ra gyud kaayo ang issue nga pirming likay-likayan sa mga atheist.

• The only thing we know that exists in nature and is capable of producing a sophisticated language is a conscious mind.
  
  
• Science knows that the instruction on what kind of cells and tissues to create as well as the key traits/characteristics of a living organism are written using a very sophisticated language (genetic language).
  
  
• Atheists INSIST that the genetic language came about in a random fashion, without the aid of any conscious mind. That assertion could be false OR true.

For that assertion to be true, the atheists should present:

1. A verifiable scientific evidence nga gawas sa usa ka conscious mind, there is another thing that exists in nature that is capable of producing a sophisticated language.
   
   
2. A verifiable scientific evidence that the thing mentioned in point no. 1 is the origin of the genetic language.

If they cannot provide the scientific evidences mentioned above, then:

1. Like the theists, THEY also believe in miracles (events that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature)
   
   
2. Their belief is not based on science but on faith. They have strong faith that theism is wrong.
   
   
3. Contrary to what most of them believe, science DOES NOT have the ULTIMATE power to decide what is true and what is false.

This is generalization. Who told you that atheists are scientists? and what made you think that when a thing can't be explained yet in science then it is made by a god?

[yanong_banikanhon]

This is generalization. Who told you that atheists are scientists?

Bay, asa mang dapita sa akong post nga akong na-mentioned nga ang tanang mga atheists mga scientists?

Ang akong giingon nga kusog lang manaway ang mga atheists nga ang mga theists dali ra kuno motuo og magic2x. Pero sila mismo nga mga atheists nituo man pud og miracle, mga butang nga dili ma-explain sa science. Example ana kanang existence sa genetic language nga matud nila gikan lang kuno sa usa ka random process, without the aid of any conscious mind. Wala ma'y verifiable scientific evidence nga makapamatuod ana, yet atheists strongly INSIST nga tinuod na.

[hitch22]

yanong, I do not wish you to misread my intentions. When I first responded to your post, you were making a comment about scientific theories that keep changing. And I only replied that that's the beauty of science: it follows where the evidence leads it, unlike religion. And because of that, you think I'm imposing my views?

How do you expect me to want to answer any of your questions from hereon in? If I answer, you'll just accuse me of imposing my views. And when I ask a question, you don't want to answer it and you insist that I'm avoiding your question. And then you take my words out of context and ask me to respond to something I did not say. And then you make all those lies about me, like I go around shoving my ideas down people's throats. How is any intelligent discussion going to be had if this is going to be your attitude, that you only want to control rather than exchange rationally? Is this how a Christian should act? I'm not surprised then.

If you ask a question, have the decency to read and understand the reply. If you do not like what I have to say, then why bother engaging me in a discussion?

[SioDenz]

"Remember, Jesus died for our sins so if you do not sin, he died for NOTHING."

It would be a shame to let all that effort go to waste, right?

Atheist explaining the writings of the Bible But don't believe in God in the first is nowhere near Funny.

[SioDenz]

i don't believe in god

Any Scientific Physical Evidence?

[yanong_banikanhon]

@hitch22:
Perfect excuse, I guess. Well, you don't need to answer my question kung dili nimo kaya. Kun imong nabantayan, my latest question about the existence of genetic language is not specifically addressed to you but to the readers of this thread in general.

So kun wala kay ikatubag, instead nga magsige ka'g employ anang mga innuendos ug personal attacks, just keep quiet.

P.S.
I hope you've learned your lesson nga dili lang unta ta magbugal2x sa pagtoo sa uban. Nga dili lang unta ta magtoo nga kita ang dunay kinalawoman og kahibalo diri sa forum (to the point nga instead of answering questions directly, ang edad naman noon sa nangutana ang gi-focus). Dili man ni pugsanay ang atoa, dili pud ni contest kinsay kinabraytan. Kaning maong thread igo ra man unta ni nangutana kinsay motuo sa Dios. Wala man himoa kining maong thread aron magbugal2x ta sa pagtuo sa uban.