We can learn from the Saints!

[koralstratz]

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St. Pope Pius X
(Feast Day Aug 21 )



On June 2, 1835, Giuseppe Melchiorre Sarto saw the light of earth at Riesi, Province of Treviso, in Venice; on August 20, 1914, he saw the light of heaven; and on May 29, 1954, he who had become the two hundred fifty-ninth pope was canonized St. Pius X.

Two of the most outstanding accomplishments of this saintly Pope were the inauguration of the liturgical renewal and the restoration of frequent communion from childhood. He also waged an unwavering war against the heresy and evils of Modernism, gave great impetus to biblical studies, and brought about the codification of Canon Law. His overriding concern was to renew all things in Christ.

Above all, his holiness shone forth conspicuously. From St. Pius X we learn again that "the folly of the Cross", simplicity of life, and humility of heart are still the highest wisdom and the indispensable conditions of a perfect Christian life, for they are the very source of all apostolic fruitfulness.

His last will and testament bears the striking sentence: "I was born poor, I have lived in poverty, and I wish to die poor."

[petite fleur]

It is Our Lady's Feast tomorrow.

Hoping that you will be able to attend tomorrows Mass in Honor of her Queenship.
Me? You know where I'll be going.

Have you memorized the Salve Regina yet?
Also the Holy Mary now we crown you...

It's good to sing with the people most. esp if you know the lyrics. hehehe

Ave Maria!!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

ANyone help me find out kinsa ang pinaka una na SAINT na dili out of MARTYRDOM ? I know si St. Stephen man ang firts saint but out of MARTYRDOM man . Thanks !

[petite fleur]

ANyone help me find out kinsa ang pinaka una na SAINT na dili out of MARTYRDOM ? I know si St. Stephen man ang firts saint but out of MARTYRDOM man . Thanks !

@Libraun~ Ei Libraun....I think you can answer this.

Ayun sa aking pag sasaliksik Sir...

In chronological order...and pinaka first kay si...dun dun dun
MAMA MARY.(who was assumed into heaven body and soul,in which we just celebrated her Assumption last Aug 15) second..St. Joseph and so on...

Lets talk about Martyrs.....
F ~ FEAST

Nag sugod ang First Martyrs of the Church of Rome F:June 30 pag 64 AD

" These 'proto-martyrs' of Rome were the first Christians persecuted en masse by the Emperor Nero in the year 64, before the martyrdom of Saints Peter and Paul."

then after nila..sila Sts. Paul F:June 29 and Peter F:June 29 ang sunod...

But who is St. Stephen?

Looking at the chronological order....
ST STEPHEN, THE FIRST MARTYR
He is not an apostle but he holds a special place in scripture. Found in Acts 7:54–60
He is the first recorded Christian Marytr.
Feast: December 26

here is the chorono list of the Saints.
http://www.rchistory.com/files/40900728.pdf


Question: Hmmm looking through the list it seems nga....nag start na siya sa New Testament. How about St. Elijah? Why is he called St?? hmmm When did Christianity began? Are all the Saints in list are Christians? When did the Roman Catholic Church began? hmmm

I would like someone to answer this... @Koral how 'bout you?? I know you can! haha cge na! hehe

The Saints,Who are they
(I just took this somewhere)

Identity of the Saints
According to the Roman Catholic Church

The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) defines a saint as "a disciple who has lived a life of exemplary fidelity to the Lord" (CCC 2156). Of the 83 paragraphs in which the word "saints" occurs, the overwhelming majority speak of "saints" as Christians in heaven.

By canonizing some of the faithful, i.e., by solemnly proclaiming that they practiced heroic virtue and lived in fidelity to God's grace, the Church recognizes the power of the Spirit of holiness within her and sustains the hope of believers by proposing the saints to them as models and intercessors.[303] "The saints have always been the source and origin of renewal in the most difficult moments in the Church's history."[304] Indeed, "holiness is the hidden source and infallible measure of her apostolic activity and missionary zeal."[305] (CCC 82.

This statement immediately restricts the sense of saints again to a select group of exemplary believers already in heaven. "Saints" in this sense is the typical usage in CCC (e.g., 61, 127, 156, 313, 326, 688, 795, 867, 956, 957, 962, 1014, 1021, 1023, 1090, 1161, 1173, 1187, 1192, 1195, 1352, 1370, 1419, 1434, 1471, 1477, 1478, 1577, 1717, 2005, 2011, 2013, 2030, 2043, 2131, 2146, 2162, 2642).


To tell you honestly, my religion foundation (Catholic) is so so poor but I am slowly learning. How can we defend if we don't have a full or should I say a little knowledge and understanding of our religion. yes of course we didn't choose to be one (Catholic) but I know for some, it means something to them ...it's more than just a religion!

.. and so I get to know this Cathechism... (wala ko kabaw if available pa ba ni sa mga bookstore karon) but good thing there's an HTML Link

The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC)
Catechism of the Catholic Church

Regarding about Laws and Regulation...you may refer to..

Code of Canon Law
Code of Canon Law
There you can find answers to your questions like..about Religious Orders (like for example ako kunuhay if mag pa preso ko dapat akong edad maka abot naku ani or if nakasal ko dapat amu marriage wala na nag exist "2/ a spouse, while the marriage continues to exist" ).... about Feast days, days of Penance, penalties and sanctions for some....also there is a Law regarding about the placements of statues and holy images inside the church...hmm so nice to know about that too.

Now lets go back to the Saints...

How does the Church choose saints?

Canonization, the process the Church uses to name a saint, has only been used since the tenth century. For hundreds of years, starting with the first martyrs of the early Church, saints were chosen by public acclaim. Though this was a more democratic way to recognize saints, some saints' stories were distorted by legend and some never existed. Gradually, the bishops and finally the Vatican took over authority for approving saints.

In 1983, Pope John Paul II made sweeping changes in the canonization procedure. The process begins after the death of a Catholic whom people regard as holy. Often, the process starts many years after death in order give perspective on the candidate. The local bishop investigates the candidate's life and writings for heroic virtue (or martyrdom) and orthodoxy of doctrine. Then a panel of theologians at the Vatican evaluates the candidate. After approval by the panel and cardinals of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, the pope proclaims the candidate "venerable."

Frequently Asked Questions about Saints - Saints & Angels - Catholic Online

“From one ancestor [God] made all nations to inhabit the whole earth, and he allotted the times of their existence and the boundaries of the places where they would live, so that they would search for God and perhaps grope for him and find him – though indeed he is not far from each of us.”
Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 2

waaah I talk a lot!!!!

this is just for the benefit of some....some might comment "O why are u praying to Saints, pray to God! or "Why the hell you Catholics venerate Saints!! ...my suggestion for you....Read and get to know more about our Faith/Beliefs/Religion through reading.. o Maski Catechism of the Catholic Church lang hehehe...before attacking someones Faith. ...and the reason for attacking is??
“It is more profitable to leave everyone to his way of thinking than to give way to contentious discourses.” ~St. Therese ...oh wait. "Our?" or should I say get to know more about your Religion, if you are Catholic I suggest you to read.... But be ready, a radical change might occur... dghan nang Santos tungod ana. weeee Like St. Ignatius (Holy Father of the Jesuits, if you are a product of Sacred Heart or Ateneo kaila ka niya of course) who was imprisoned left only with two pious books...walay xay laing mabuhat kundi pugson nalang iyang self mu basa sa libro just somewhat to entertain himself. Amazing. Now naa xay book available sa St. Pauls which is the Spiritual exercises...it pays to read good books esp written by our beloved Saints.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ PETITE FLEUR ...

The BLESSED VIRGIN MARY is not a SAINT .

A dead person becomes a SAINT when he /she is CANONIZED .

[wenlove24]

@ PETITE FLEUR ...

The BLESSED VIRGIN MARY is not a SAINT .

A dead person becomes a SAINT when he /she is CANONIZED .

MARY is in fact QUEEN OF ALL SAINTS

Mary was not canonized because that process did not begin until about the 12th century. She was proclaimed a saint by the early Christians because of her being the Mother of Our Lord.

Mary, conceived without original sin, was born to Anne and Joachim. Betrothed to Joseph at a young age, the angel Gabriel appeared to Mary asking her to become the Mother of God. Mary responded obediently with the words, "behold, I am the hand-maiden of the Lord; let it be done to me according to your word".

God chose Mary from all eternity for the holy honor of bringing forth , through the Holy Spirit, his greatest Gift to mankind. Her immaculate conception distinguishes her above all others. Mary, Holy Virgin, pure and perfect, gave birth to Jesus Christ and so we esteem her above all saints.

Throughout history there is a great devotion to Mary, the Mother of God. During her life on earth and after her assumption into heaven, Mary, mother of Jesus, remains the perfect model of Faith. Mary, Queen of Saints, is our Mother of Heaven and Earth.

*487 What the Catholic faith believes about Mary is based on what it believes about Christ, and what it teaches about Mary illumines in turn its faith in Christ.

Mary's predestination

488 "God sent forth his Son", but to prepare a body for him,125 he wanted the free co-operation of a creature. For this, from all eternity God chose for the mother of his Son a daughter of Israel, a young Jewish woman of Nazareth in Galilee, "a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary":126

The Father of mercies willed that the Incarnation should be preceded by assent on the part of the predestined mother, so that just as a woman had a share in the coming of death, so also should a woman contribute to the coming of life.127
489 Throughout the Old Covenant the mission of many holy women prepared for that of Mary. At the very beginning there was Eve; despite her disobedience, she receives the promise of a posterity that will be victorious over the evil one, as well as the promise that she will be the mother of all the living.128 By virtue of this promise, Sarah conceives a son in spite of her old age.129 Against all human expectation God chooses those who were considered powerless and weak to show forth his faithfulness to his promises: Hannah, the mother of Samuel; Deborah; Ruth; Judith and Esther; and many other women.130 Mary "stands out among the poor and humble of the Lord, who confidently hope for and receive salvation from him. After a long period of waiting the times are fulfilled in her, the exalted Daughter of Sion, and the new plan of salvation is established."131

The Immaculate Conception

490 To become the mother of the Savior, Mary "was enriched by God with gifts appropriate to such a role."132 The angel Gabriel at the moment of the annunciation salutes her as "full of grace".133 In fact, in order for Mary to be able to give the free assent of her faith to the announcement of her vocation, it was necessary that she be wholly borne by God's grace.

491 Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, "full of grace" through God,134 was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854:

The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin.135
492 The "splendor of an entirely unique holiness" by which Mary is "enriched from the first instant of her conception" comes wholly from Christ: she is "redeemed, in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son".136 The Father blessed Mary more than any other created person "in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places" and chose her "in Christ before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless before him in love".137

493 The Fathers of the Eastern tradition call the Mother of God "the All-Holy" (Panagia), and celebrate her as "free from any stain of sin, as though fashioned by the Holy Spirit and formed as a new creature".138 By the grace of God Mary remained free of every personal sin her whole life long.

"Let it be done to me according to your word. . ."

494 At the announcement that she would give birth to "the Son of the Most High" without knowing man, by the power of the Holy Spirit, Mary responded with the obedience of faith, certain that "with God nothing will be impossible": "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be [done] to me according to your word."139 Thus, giving her consent to God's word, Mary becomes the mother of Jesus. Espousing the divine will for salvation wholeheartedly, without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person and to the work of her Son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with him and dependent on him, by God's grace:140

As St. Irenaeus says, "Being obedient she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race."141 Hence not a few of the early Fathers gladly assert. . .: "The knot of Eve's disobedience was untied by Mary's obedience: what the virgin Eve bound through her disbelief, Mary loosened by her faith."142 Comparing her with Eve, they call Mary "the Mother of the living" and frequently claim: "Death through Eve, life through Mary."143

125 Gal 4:4; Heb 10:5.
126 Lk 1:26-27.
127 LG 56; cf. LG 61.
128 Cf. Gen 3:15, 20.
129 Cf. Gen 18:10-14; 21:1-2.
130 Cf. 1 Cor 1:17; 1 Sam 1.
131 LG 55.
132 LG 56.
133 Lk 1:28.
134 Lk 1:28.
135 Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus (1854): DS 2803.
136 LG 53, 56.
137 Cf. Eph 1:3-4.
138 LG 56.
139 Lk 1:28-38; cf. Rom 1:5.
140 Cf. LG 56.
141 St. Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3, 22, 4: PG 7/1, 959A.
142 St. Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3, 22, 4: PG 7/1, 959A.
143 LG 56; Epiphanius, Haer. 78, 18: PG 42, 728CD-729AB; St. Jerome, Ep. 22, 21: PL 22, 408.

*texts in blue are excerpts from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, with corresponding references below it...

[koralstratz]

@SPRINGFIELD

Good Day Sir

First of,,,I'm not an expert of these matters and I do hope that somebody who is far more capable will show up in this thread to accurately explain this (regarding your question and much more)....But I'll try to give my share (and I hope that it won't create any heated debate) he he he and besides wla koy ikasukol ug debate kay uyamot kaayo ako kaalam.

And also for the sakes of avoiding misunderstanding /confusion and argument let us limit our questions and answers purely in a ROMAN Catholic points of view....Ok?

So for your question "WHo is the first UN-martyred saint?

Before I can answer that in my own limited way, let us first agree on what the word "saint" means..(very complex man gud ang answer ani ug taas kaayo para masabtan gyud, so I will just give some links so that WE can perhaps find an agreeable conclusion).

What does the word "saint" mean?

fg03 - What does the word 'saint' mean in the Bible? - fg03.htm

(I hope that we do not confuse ourselves with the definition of a "canonized " saint and the original meaning of "saint" per se)

So by this definition (derived from the link above but not limited to)...The Blessed Virgin Mary is considered a saint AND yet also THE MOTHER of God.
here are links to further understand this: (It is a MUST read so as to avoid further confusion)

The Marian Dogmas

Fifth Marian Dogma, Our Lady as Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate of All Graces

So, IF we agree on these.....well, to answer your question on who is the FIRST un-martyred saint In my own humble opinion, It is the Blessed Virgin Mary who is the FIRST of all saints (martyred or un-martyred)

* Mother of God
* Virgin and Chaste perpetually
* Conceived without original sin
* Assumed into heaven both body and soul...(NOTE: she also died the physical death before entering heaven)

Sir spring,,,I hope I did not further add confusion on this matter,,,Maayo unta ug naa tay Katoliko nga mga pari or bisag theologians lang nga mka eksplikar dini ug tarong.....But anyways we are glad that you dropped by

[wenlove24]

@korz:



Like a kid who went inside a candy store for the first time, I was grinning from ear to ear while watching this magnificent video...one of 8...a series called "Footprints of God" on INTV formerly known as CCTN. Oh how I long to sing you a song of praise to describe the warmth of your smile, the pureness of your heart. Oh Mary, our Queen of Love, our beautiful way to the loving Son!

a link to purchase it >>> Mary The Mother of God (DVD / Video), Footprints of God Series, Bible Study, Audio and Video at The Catholic Company
and a short vid on youtube >>>Virgin Mary part1 bereanbeacon - YouTube

[koralstratz]

TODAY (Aug 22)

We celebrate the Queenship of Mary

AVE MARIA




Mary's Queenship

by Fr. William G. Most

The beginning of the concept that Mary is a Queen is found in the annunciation narrative. For the angel tells her that her Son will be King over the house of Jacob forever. So she, His Mother, would be a Queen.

The Fathers of the Church soon picked up these implications. A text probably coming from Origen (died c. 254: cf. Marian Studies 4, 1953, 87) gives her the title domina, the feminine form of Latin dominus, Lord. That same title also appears in many other early writers, e.g. , St. Ephrem, St. Jerome, St. Peter Chrysologus (cf. Marian Studies 4. 87-91). The word "Queen" appears abut the sixth century, and is common thereafter (Marian Studies, 4, 91-94).

The titles "king" and "queen" are often used loosely, for those beings that excel in some way. Thus we call the lion the king of beasts, the rose the queen of flowers. Surely Our Lady deserves the title richly for such reasons. But there is much more.

Some inadequate reasons have been suggested: She is the daughter of David. But not every child of a king becomes a king or queen. Others have pointed out that she was free from original sin. Then, since Adam and Eve had a dominion over all things (Genesis 1. 26) she should have similar dominion. But the problem is that the royalty of Adam and Eve was largely metaphorical.

The solidly theological reasons for her title of Queen are expressed splendidly by Pius XII, in his Radiomessage to Fatima, Bendito seja (AAS 38. 266): "He, the Son of God, reflects on His heavenly Mother the glory, the majesty and the dominion of His kingship, for, having been associated to the King of Martyrs in the unspeakable work of human Redemption as Mother and cooperator, she remains forever associated to Him, with a practically unlimited power, in the distribution of the graces which flow from the Redemption. Jesus is King throughout all eternity by nature and by right of conquest: through Him, with Him, and subordinate to Him, Mary is Queen by grace, by divine relationship, by right of conquest, and by singular choice [of the Father]. And her kingdom is as vast as that of her Son and God, since nothing is excluded from her dominion."

We notice that there are two titles for the kingship of Christ: divine nature, and "right of conquest", i.e., the Redemption. She is Queen "through Him, with Him, and subordinate to Him." The qualifications are obvious, and need no explanation. Her Queenship is basically a sharing in the royalty of her Son. We do not think of two powers, one infinite, the other finite. No, she and her Son are inseparable, and operate as a unit.

Of the four titles Pius XII gave for her Queenship, we notice that two are closely parallel to those of Jesus:

(1) He is king by nature, as God; she is Queen by "divine relationship" that is, by being the Mother of God. In fact her relation to her Son is greater than that of ordinary Mothers of Kings. For she is the Mother of Him who is King by very nature, from all eternity, and the relationship is exclusive, for He had no human father. Still further, the ordinary queen-mother gives birth to a child who later will become king. The son of Mary is, as we said, eternally king, by His very nature. (2) He is king by right of conquest. She too is Queen by right of conquest. We already saw that this title for Him means that He redeemed us from the captivity of satan. She shared in the struggle and victory. Since the Pope expressed her dependence on Him in a threefold way--something we would have known anyway--then it is clear that he did not have in mind any other restriction which he did not express. So, maintaining this subordination, "by right of conquest" means the same for her as it does for Him.

The other two titles: (3) She is Queen by grace. She is full of grace, the highest in the category of grace besides her Son. (4) She is Queen by singular choice of the Father. A mere human can become King or Queen by choice of the people. How much greater a title is the choice of the Father Himself!

Pius XII added that "nothing is excluded from her dominion." As Mediatrix of all graces, who shared in earning all graces, she is, as Benedict XV said, "Suppliant omnipotence": she, united with her Son, can obtain by her intercession anything that the all-powerful God can do by His own inherent power.

In the Old Testament, under some Davidic kings, the gebirah, the "Great Lady", usually the Mother of the King, held great power as advocate with the king. Cf. 1 Kings 2:20, where Solomon said to his Mother Bathsheba, seated on a throne at his right: "Make your request, Mother, for I will not refuse you." Here is a sort of type of Our Lady.

[libraun]

ANyone help me find out kinsa ang pinaka una na SAINT na dili out of MARTYRDOM ? I know si St. Stephen man ang firts saint but out of MARTYRDOM man . Thanks !

Hello Springfield! I am no expert in saints but I agree to them that it is the Virgin Mary who is our (the) first saint nga dili out of martyrdom.

But anyway, it was St. Ulrich of Augsburg ang first saint to be canonized by Pope John XV. Dili sad siya martyr.