Debate about pre-marital s.ex

[Gone_rouge]

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hoy TS.... are you researching sa mga view dri storya pra sa inyoha groupo nga points of oder sa debate?........cheaters..........hope you win....

anyways... there were so may view sa bible na subject sa readers interpretation, the church have one and you have one too.... my point being is that it all boils down to that sacrade feeling that brought as all here...LOVE, is pre marital s.ex wrong and a sin?... will depends on how it happens if its done out of lust, guilt, proving something, or any reasons out of LOVE then it is.....even if its pre marital or not.....

here a situation, tell me which is a sin... you make love to your boy friend, your both ready and consented to it.. but your not yet married , pre marital right...
the other was that a mail order bride have s.ex to her spouse after marriage. there no love but done out of necessity....

i did ask this one to a clergy... he said both were sin, i think personally hes just trying to protect the institution.. but we all know which of these was a sin.....

[Gone_rouge]

hoy.. if your reading this.. you win this if you can curve the topic to love.. the scenario is lose, lose on your side any way you see it so keep them away to that.... religion is an institution not GOD...ending rebuttal speech...pre-marital, it being wrong, it being a sin is not certain and always the case... in the given scenario it is, but not always in reality...s.ex done out of lust etch....not by love married or not is wrong, is a sin...couple should fall always in love....elaborate on this...tell the story of adam how god took a rib from him.... created eve out of it and that through making love there union made themwhole again.... thus giving the power of procreation......
hit them with the scenario above and when they goes biblical hit them with the adam story...
im telling you.. permi ni nila hatag na debatable situation hapit tana high school classes for your side to lose poorly.... this is there way discourage pre marital s.ex...
Im telling you.. you make a stand on this side calmly, with poise, with gallant and point out as many merits in you case, even if you alone, even cge hapak sa banko and uban... you make your mark... you make your impression...

[bearish]

first of all, gather all verses in the christian bible that has been made as basis for sexual morality. you have to know first their stronghold before you make an attack. if it is not written in the bible that pms is a sin, then why it becomes a sin or immoral in the first place?

[bearish]

gather informations relating to s3x and the nature. the relationship between nature and s3x. what push for the urge? why humans have urge for that? how it binds relationship, how it promotes health, how it promotes whole being, etc, etc.

there are a lot of factors that you don't need to withhold having s3x specially when you are already in the right age. knowing the situation given, is perfectly ok having pms. what's wrong with it anyway?

[koralstratz]

I have a class debate in my religion class (i go to USC, so religion is un-avoidable )

The scenario:
There lived a woman (let's name her Lesie). Lesie is 28 years old and works as a general manager at BPI. she has 8 younger siblings whom she promised to support before settling down and getting married.
Her boyfriend is her high school sweet heart (let's name him Joey) who works as a volunteer nurse. he is one year older than Leslie. They both don't have any plans of getting married currently due to Leslie's commitment to her family and Joey's unstable job.

one night, Joey asks Leslie to have s.ex with him. Leslie says "no" since she thinks that it is only for married couples. Joey says that it is a way to prove her committed love to him and they'll get married in the future anyway.



now... the class was broken into 2 groups.. by drawing slots! so we had no personal choice in choosing a side for the debate. Let's say that YOU were put into the team where u were "YES PRE-MARITAL S.EX!!" how will u defend urself?


To those who are in my class, and who can read this. BWAHAHAHA!

Hey Ulyssmarie,,,,since this is just a graded class debate….you don’t need to bang your head on a wall just to win coz’ in reality this debate has not yet been settled and your priest teacher knows that…….Your YES group only needs only to be amusingly creative in it’s persuasion. And for sure your teacher will give high grades for it.
You say that the given scenario is biased (pro NO),,,well then create your own scenario that gives credence to your group’s YES claims (it can even be hilarious BUT with a touch of reality)

I’ll give you an example:

Kunwari ako si YES guy…(How do I defend my group? )

First, I’m gonna strip off all my clothes , then I will point at the thing between my legs and say aloud “This LITTLE piggy wants to go to market”….

Then I will point at a female group member…”That beautiful lady has a BIG BIG market”

Then the female group member will respond…”But I don’t want to have a LIITLE piggy in my BIG market”…..”I want to be a s3xually satisfied wife when I get married”

And so I will then face the debate moderator and shrug my shoulders and say : “you see now Mr. Moderator ? It would be utterly unfair for that girl if I marry her without presenting to her my underweight LITTLE piggy” “ so for heaven’s sakes can I please put my clothes on now? This LITTLE piggy is embarrassing me”


Another example based on the Joey-Leslie scenario:

Joey: Honey babes,,, we are already of right age and maturity and we have been in relationship for quite some time now…..Don’t you think it’s about time to do the THING?

Leslie: How dare you ask me a thing like that Joey, you know I’m a Catholic and I’m suppose to do the THING only after marriage.

Joey: I know honey,, but it’s not really s3x that I am after.

Leslie: Huh really?.., how so?

Joey: Well you know babes, I had been keeping this secret from you for a long time already.

Leslie: And what that might be?

Joey: It’s a kind of psychological condition that the friend doctor/psychologist told me that I have…It’s called genophobia or something like that.

Leslie: What the hell is that psychological thing you are talking about Joey? Don’t tell me you’re a pscho.

Joey: No, no I’m not crazy you idiot…Genophobia according to the doctor is the physical or psychological fear of sexual relations or sexual intercourse.

Leslie: (SHOCKED)

Joey: Hey don’t get me wrong baby,,I myself can’t believe it either…I also have my doubts about what my friend doctor told me about my condition…I’m not sure if he is right or not,, that’s why I need it to test it on something or someone.

Leslie: (still speechless)

Joey: Honey babes I love you,,,And If you say that we wait until marriage before we test the THING then it’s fine with me….I will always love you and honor you for the REST of your loooong life.

Leslie: How much do you say is the 3hours short time rate in QUEENSLAND motel?

Joey: (SMILING) I’m not sure honey but we’ll sure find out later,,,don’t worry I’ll pay the bills.


And that my dear Ulyssa will I defend my YES group...Hehehe I only presented this in humor.. but I'm sure you're intelligent getz the idea

[bearish]

^ agree. just be creative with scenarios that will depict your case/stand.

[Sand Man]

i can't believe that i'd actually prefer to say "NO s.ex"!

My first thoughts, actually. hehehe

Just let go...

[Gone_rouge]

Hey Ulyssmarie,,,,since this is just a graded class debate….you don’t need to bang your head on a wall just to win coz’ in reality this debate has not yet been settled and your priest teacher knows that…….Your YES group only needs only to be amusingly creative in it’s persuasion. And for sure your teacher will give high grades for it.
You say that the given scenario is biased (pro NO),,,well then create your own scenario that gives credence to your group’s YES claims (it can even be hilarious BUT with a touch of reality)

I’ll give you an example:

Kunwari ako si YES guy…(How do I defend my group? )

First, I’m gonna strip off all my clothes , then I will point at the thing between my legs and say aloud “This LITTLE piggy wants to go to market”….

Then I will point at a female group member…”That beautiful lady has a BIG BIG market”

Then the female group member will respond…”But I don’t want to have a LIITLE piggy in my BIG market”…..”I want to be a s3xually satisfied wife when I get married”

And so I will then face the debate moderator and shrug my shoulders and say : “you see now Mr. Moderator ? It would be utterly unfair for that girl if I marry her without presenting to her my underweight LITTLE piggy” “ so for heaven’s sakes can I please put my clothes on now? This LITTLE piggy is embarrassing me”


Another example based on the Joey-Leslie scenario:

Joey: Honey babes,,, we are already of right age and maturity and we have been in relationship for quite some time now…..Don’t you think it’s about time to do the THING?

Leslie: How dare you ask me a thing like that Joey, you know I’m a Catholic and I’m suppose to do the THING only after marriage.

Joey: I know honey,, but it’s not really s3x that I am after.

Leslie: Huh really?.., how so?

Joey: Well you know babes, I had been keeping this secret from you for a long time already.

Leslie: And what that might be?

Joey: It’s a kind of psychological condition that the friend doctor/psychologist told me that I have…It’s called genophobia or something like that.

Leslie: What the hell is that psychological thing you are talking about Joey? Don’t tell me you’re a pscho.

Joey: No, no I’m not crazy you idiot…Genophobia according to the doctor is the physical or psychological fear of sexual relations or sexual intercourse.

Leslie: (SHOCKED)

Joey: Hey don’t get me wrong baby,,I myself can’t believe it either…I also have my doubts about what my friend doctor told me about my condition…I’m not sure if he is right or not,, that’s why I need it to test it on something or someone.

Leslie: (still speechless)

Joey: Honey babes I love you,,,And If you say that we wait until marriage before we test the THING then it’s fine with me….I will always love you and honor you for the REST of your loooong life.

Leslie: How much do you say is the 3hours short time rate in QUEENSLAND motel?

Joey: (SMILING) I’m not sure honey but we’ll sure find out later,,,don’t worry I’ll pay the bills.


And that my dear Ulyssa will I defend my YES group...Hehehe I only presented this in humor.. but I'm sure you're intelligent getz the idea

heheh... is this how you defend this side in your time.. , i like the naked part... heheh

[nitwit]

women give s.ex to be loved while men give love to get s.ex. its sad but ey!its really true.

lets not be naive guys,pms are very common nowadays and i think its a way to go. what if lets say married na mo unya diay di ka happy sa imong partner cuase he/she cant sexually satisfy you in bed?unsaon man ni?mauli pa ni? . lisud pod ni ebutang reason why mag divorce mo or annulment kay mabaw rapod kaayo but s.ex is very important in marriage baya. mao bitaw daghan nag buwag kay nangabit kay di kontento sa ilang mga partners.

i go for pms, bahala mo against ning uban .show me yours and ill show you mine

[farmboy]

There should have been no debate.

Marriage is nothing but a prison without bars. There is freedom as long as one obeys and follows a set of rules.