Debate about pre-marital s.ex

[hitch22]

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can i say.. BOTH?

coz its like we need to convince her that "its okay to have s.ex with him even if ur not married". and defend if Leslie were to ask "why?? why is it ok? with my current commitment and mentality.. why?"

the situation IS bias infact.. it's obviously pointing towards the "NO TO S.EX" group. That's what makes it so hard to win this debate. GAHHH!

*bangs head on the wall*

Anyway, let's try to make the best argument in a rigged debate. Let's see...

First, we should assume that it's going to be safe s-e-x (strictly w/ condoms). That makes the activity without physical and social consequences (e.g. pregnancy, ostracism). Let's pretend both wouldn't have a problem with the possibility of breaking up despite consummating the relationship to this level.

Some reasons could be...

1) Both can view pre-marital s-e-x as "practice"...to see how it would feel like living together, sleeping together, learning about each other's idiosyncrasies, etc. before tying the knot for good. Who knows? The guy might not have the "stamina" or the ability to "stand"... If the girl found out about this on her honeymoon night, she might wish she'd found out sooner.

2) The girl can take advantage of the opportunity and make pre-marital s-e-x as incentive for the guy get serious about his career first. No stable career, no s-e-x.

Well...that's it. Good luck!

[istoryamember]

kung mabutang man gali ko sa yes, ang ako isulti is "magbuot d ay mo kung ganahan ko ug PMS? I have the freedom and akoy manubag sa consequences. PMS is a matter of choice." wala nay debate hahahaha

[jack_bauer]

these words echoed in my mind repeatedly.

very good point u have there. I mean.. they HAVE been going out since Highschool (high school sweet heart)... so.. a man can only take so much of being s.ex deprived...right? haha

sensationalize *** but not the act itself..
like cite its benefits viz relationship, etc..
make it transcendental in nature, i mean.. *** is something big.. blah blah..
dili lang ni action but it is more than it.. is something beautiful to be deprived of..

the likehood of religious rebuttal would surely pop up.. na *** is god given and could only be great if it has god's blessing... wew!!!! ka lisod.. hala....

[ulyssa_marie]

is something beautiful to be deprived of..

the likehood of religious rebuttal would surely pop up.. na *** is god given and could only be great if it has god's blessing... wew!!!! ka lisod.. hala....

let us bang our heads on the wall together now... 1..2..3


*notes down points given* i will make sure to credit all of u during the debate.

[ulyssa_marie]

Some reasons could be...

1) Both can view pre-marital s-e-x as "practice"...to see how it would feel like living together, sleeping together, learning about each other's idiosyncrasies, etc. before tying the knot for good. Who knows? The guy might not have the "stamina" or the ability to "stand"... If the girl found out about this on her honeymoon night, she might wish she'd found out sooner.

2) The girl can take advantage of the opportunity and make pre-marital s-e-x as incentive for the guy get serious about his career first. No stable career, no s-e-x.

1) "o my gosh! it wont stand!" haha u have a good point there sir.. but i couldnt help but laugh at that for a bit . LOL

2) is that like some form of black male or bribery? hmmm... PMS or no PMS... i think that's be very useful in any situation.

[istoryamember]

if mo pop up man gali ang religion issue, ingna lang TS nga dili ka katoliko. Wala bitaw gisulti nga katoliko to si leslie ug si Joey

[jack_bauer]

^
it would be wise for you to set up the scope and limitations of the debate in your advantage like ask your teacher to put specifics,,.. if humana ba gyud sila ug *** or wala pa.. because if you have to give reasons why the girl should say yes to her man's request then i believe its not a debate at all...

sa akong tan-aw debate would have start when and by, humana sila ug ehem.. haha then you and your group have to defend the PMS act..

[kaiserflame]

This one is tricky and both would have very convincing arguements.

Let's not put health in and having children in (HE CAN OBVIOUSLY WEAR A CONDOM OR SHE CAN TAKE THE PILL).

Unhan nato ang scenario:


If the girl says no then she has every right to refuse "Joey". She did nothing wrong in stating what she wanted regardless of whether dugayx2 na sila. She's aware of her situation and she has responsibilities that she volunatarily embraced. There's the problem. Your professor gave a situation that already gives off the answer so if you stick to the scenario then you're sure to lose.

BRING THE TOPIC AWAY FROM THE SCENARIO AND THROW BACK LITTLE WORDS

Is there something wrong with someone who wants to explore their sexuality? In most cases, no (except for a few exceptions like Pedophiles). At least your d.umba.ss teacher didn't make them teenagers otherwise there would be a mountain of things wrongs over rights.

The common understanding of it is "Oh no! It's immoral". Well guess what you horny boys and girls, it's not if both consents to it as long as you know what you're doing. Being 28 and being oblivious of how her parents had 9 children is unlikely. Hell, I lost my virginity at age 14 to a 19 year old and I enjoyed every god damn second of it.

Wouldn't someone being held of their right to have s.ex be deprived of their freedom of expression? If I was looked down upon just because I choose to run in the sun, swim at 12:00pm and stay dark, wouldn't the people judging me be wrong?

If someone, working to feed the homeless, chooses to have s.ex with either a man or a woman, is that person any less of a person than a 40 year old virgin nun who molests children in an orphanage? Or how about a nun who isn't a virgin but volunteers at a hospital compared to a 20 year old serial killer?

Let's try putting it in another perspective. If I had the choice to ride all the unowned cars in the world before choosing the perfect car for me, why can't I? Joey can break up with her if that's what he really wants. So he may sound like a jerk but if it's his choice and I'd cheer him on. If he wants s.exy land then he should go there. Wouldn' it be unfair to stay with someone and feel obligated to them JUST BECAUSE they've been together for many years? Yes it would.


ONLY FOR MARRIED COUPLES MY RECTUM! So this is what marriage has become. It's a plane ticket to s.ex land. Marriage isn't just for having s.ex and procreating (no matter what these conservative bigots say). Marriage is an agreement to stay with another, better each other and support each other. People can do that too without marriage too right? So there isn't really much point in getting married now-a-days. Why wait for marriage to "knock boots" if the essence of marriage isn't understood? Do you know what it is? Mate protection. That's all it is. That's why it was made. Don't give me BS about preventing the spread of decease and that's why it was made because STD's weren't a problem when Abraham was snipping the p.enises of his fellow tribesmen. Remember all the Jews and Gentiles who had HIV/AIDS? I don't either.

Virginity can be a source of strength for a people. Not being a virgin can be too. Pre-marital s.ex is a choice and doesn't make anyone less of a person. There is nothing wrong with it at all. If their stand is that she shouldn't because they're not married then refer to previous paragraph.

[pinoy_09]

I have a class debate in my religion class (i go to USC, so religion is un-avoidable )

So sorry...

[Norad-II]

Off topic:

I studied for a while at USC too. Although I use the term "studied" very loosely here, as all I did was get wasted and didn't go to any classes. Anyway, during the first meeting of our RE-ED 10 class, our teacher had us write on a piece of paper what our expectations of the course were, and on my paper I wrote "I do not believe in God, and I hope this does not influence the teacher negatively against me." And you know what happened? I passed the class even though I only attended a total of about 10 hours that semester.

On topic:

If the girl says no, that's the end of it. "proving your love" by putting out is the lamest excuse to get into someone's pants anyway. Why did they get together in the first place, "Joey" sounds like a major sleazebag.