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  1. #51

    Default Re: How was everything created?


    Quote Originally Posted by hitch22 View Post
    They keep drinking Kool Aid because they think it's always a good idea to ask the Brand X salesman what's wrong with Brand X.

    The First Cause (if we just grant this assumption for a while) of this vast universe....HAS A SON! Repeat that over and over and see if your eyeballs don't do

    I had to wonder why it would choose an evolved primate over, say, dolphins or the whales. Don't these magnificent creatures need saving a lot more than homo sapiens? As far as I can tell, some species of whales are on a fast track to extinction. Homo sapiens, on the other hand, are trucking along just fine...growing exponentially at that.
    That only says so much about our own consciousness. Because we have a "higher" consciousness compared to other animals, as a result we tend to see ourselves as more important. And why do you have to wonder about our own extinction? We're just fine...that's proof that god loves us!

  2. #52

    Default Re: How was everything created?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    I disagree. Faith and religion robs life of its meaning. You end up not taking life seriously because you're confident there's another life once you die. Life without God is more meaningful because you treat each moment as precious knowing that death is the end, and that there is only ONE life to live. The reason you turned your back on atheism is because you never understood what being an atheist is about.
    wla manka makasabot sa imong statement bro! where does meaning emerge when atheists believe they came from time + matter + chance?
    You're treating each moment as precious? where did you get that morality? nag conflict mo sa ubang atheist bro...

    "atheism tells me there is no supernatual creator and the only thing i really have to do is pass on my genetic material to the next generation to ensure my survival of my speicies and hope my next generation does likewise."

    Therefore only by the existence of God can we find life as with meaning and purpose.

  3. #53

    Default Re: How was everything created?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    That only says so much about our own consciousness. Because we have a "higher" consciousness compared to other animals, as a result we tend to see ourselves as more important. And why do you have to wonder about our own extinction? We're just fine...that's proof that god loves us!
    And what's your idea about the evolution of your morality? nagka-anam ka ka walay buot or nagkanindot ang imong moral? Kung misamot ka maayo ang imong morality bro then kana motuo ko nga ang imong evolution maayo ug angay natong sundon. But if opposite ang resulta, murag nawala na ang inyong moral conscience, then lisud kung magdaghan mo.

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by santopaps View Post
    wla manka makasabot sa imong statement bro! where does meaning emerge when atheists believe they came from time + matter + chance?
    You're treating each moment as precious? where did you get that morality? nag conflict mo sa ubang atheist bro...

    "atheism tells me there is no supernatual creator and the only thing i really have to do is pass on my genetic material to the next generation to ensure my survival of my speicies and hope my next generation does likewise."

    Therefore only by the existence of God can we find life as with meaning and purpose.
    Atheists are still humans and thus we have emotions. We form friendships, we love, we care for others, we grieve, we feel happy, we feel sad, etc. Why do you have this notion that just because we don't believe in God, that our lives are deprived of meaning? Where did you get this philosophy?

    Again, stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Maybe you'd make more sense if you start drinking beer and get drunk.

  5. #55

    Default Re: How was everything created?

    Quote Originally Posted by santopaps View Post
    Therefore only by the existence of God can we find life as with meaning and purpose.
    Well, that's your opinion, broseph. I honestly don't need God or any supernatural deity to give meaning to my life. I have a loving family, I've got a job, I've got hobbies, and they give my life meaning enough. I also try to help others as much as I can, because I want other people to be happy as well. What else is there to want? Why would I willingly subject myself to the whims of a supposed all-powerful and vengeful God (if one did exist)?

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norad-II View Post
    Well, that's your opinion, brospeh. I honestly don't need God or any supernatural deity to give meaning to my life. I have a loving family, I've got a job, I've got hobbies, and they give my life meaning enough. I also try to help others as much as I can, because I want other people to be happy as well. What else is there to want? Why would I willingly subject myself to the whims of a supposed all-powerful and vengeful God (if one did exist)?

    Kung okay naka ana bro, wala ko mopugong nimo! Dili sad na makahunong sa belief namo on God and especially on the progress of Christianity. We as christians bro just wanted to be part of God's purpose in humanity.

    Igo raka gipakatawo sa kalibutan just to have fun, have family, material things..etc, and taht's it? mabaw ra kaayo ang imong meaning of life bro.

  7. #57

    Default Re: How was everything created?

    Karon lang ka nag in ana kunuhay kay nana kay kaya ug nakabarug naka sa imong kaugalingon? how about since your childhood nga wala pakay kaya? mao na ang diperensya sa tawo bro kung unsa jud ta ka depraved.

    Parehas sa imong gitabangan nga makasulod ug trabaho bro bah kay nihangyo jud maayo sa imoha then after nga nakasulod na, wala na makahinumdum sa imoha.

  8. #58

    Default Re: How was everything created?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Atheists are still humans and thus we have emotions. We form friendships, we love, we care for others, we grieve, we feel happy, we feel sad, etc. Why do you have this notion that just because we don't believe in God, that our lives are deprived of meaning? Where did you get this philosophy?

    Again, stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Maybe you'd make more sense if you start drinking beer and get drunk.

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  9. #59

    Default Re: How was everything created?

    Quote Originally Posted by santopaps View Post
    Igo raka gipakatawo sa kalibutan just to have fun, have family, material things..etc, and taht's it? mabaw ra kaayo ang imong meaning of life bro.
    Partner, ngano'ng kahibaw man ka nga mabaw ra kaayo akong kinabuhi? Are you the one living my life? Ako kontento na ko ani nga existence, and I try to find meaning by making other people happy. Para nako, mao na ang pinaka importante, nga makatabang ka sa ubang tawo.

    Quote Originally Posted by santopaps View Post
    Karon lang ka nag in ana kunuhay kay nana kay kaya ug nakabarug naka sa imong kaugalingon? how about since your childhood nga wala pakay kaya? mao na ang diperensya sa tawo bro kung unsa jud ta ka depraved.
    Bai, kahibaw ka, ug imo pang kuhaon tanan nakong kalibutanong bahandi, tanan nakong kwarta (nga pipila ra gyud intawn), tanan nakong gamit, dili gihapon nimo mausab akong pagtuo. Kana imong pagtuo nga "there are no atheists in foxholes" kay dili na mu-apply sa tanang tawo. Wala na ko'y rason nga mukalit lang ug tuo sa ginoo, kay ako na nang gihuna-huna, ug naka decide na ko nga ang ginoo dili tinuod.

  10. #60

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    wla man koy intention mousab sa mga pagtuo diri bro, all i want is to share sa hope nga gihatag sa Ginoong hesukristo. naa rana kung atong i reject or dawaton!

    kung makaayo mana sa imong paminaw, padayon lang. walay magpugong jud sa atua bro!

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