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  1. #131

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View


    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama92 View Post
    I got lots of proof for you. But you will deny them like any other atheist.
    you see, i'm open for god's existence if somebody would show a reliable evidence of his existence. it doesn't mean i'm a non believer, i'm not open for the possibility of his existence. provided nga naay EVIDENCE

    i want to believe that somebody has created us and all this things we see were created by intelligent design. however, as much as I WANT TO believe but there's no evidence!

  2. #132

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by florigaga View Post
    you see, i'm open for god's existence if somebody would show a reliable evidence of his existence. it doesn't mean i'm a non believer, i'm not open for the possibility of his existence. provided nga naay EVIDENCE

    i want to believe that somebody has created us and all this things we see were created by intelligent design. however, as much as I WANT TO believe but there's no evidence!

    ARGUMENT FROM CONSEQUENCES OF THE ABSURD (THE MOST IRREFUTABLE ARGUMENT)
    (1) Suppose God didn't exist.
    (2) Then he wouldn't have made the universe.
    (3) And he wouldn't have spread his word.
    (4) And he wouldn't have sent his own son to sacrifice himself for mankind.
    (5) But the universe does exist.
    (6) And the Bible is spread all over the world.
    (7) And Jesus did die.
    ( Therefore, God exists.

  3. #133

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama92 View Post
    ARGUMENT FROM CONSEQUENCES OF THE ABSURD (THE MOST IRREFUTABLE ARGUMENT)
    (1) Suppose God didn't exist.
    (2) Then he wouldn't have made the universe.
    (3) And he wouldn't have spread his word.
    (4) And he wouldn't have sent his own son to sacrifice himself for mankind.
    (5) But the universe does exist.
    (6) And the Bible is spread all over the world.
    (7) And Jesus did die.
    ( Therefore, God exists.
    this, i can't understand. what made you say God created the universe?

  4. #134

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by florigaga View Post
    this, i can't understand. what made you say God created the universe?
    Not good enough? i got more for you. In fact, i have Hundreds more for you.

    ARGUMENT FROM A BILLION DOLLARS
    (1) If someone you didn't like opened a bank account

    with a billion dollars in it, and put it in your name,

    you would not believe him and you would lose your

    billion dollar gift.
    (2) This is like me telling you about the gift of God's

    love. It's a gift that you have, you just don't believe

    it.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

  5. #135

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama92 View Post
    Not good enough? i got more for you. In fact, i have Hundreds more for you.

    ARGUMENT FROM A BILLION DOLLARS
    (1) If someone you didn't like opened a bank account

    with a billion dollars in it, and put it in your name,

    you would not believe him and you would lose your

    billion dollar gift.
    (2) This is like me telling you about the gift of God's

    love. It's a gift that you have, you just don't believe

    it.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.
    definitely you didn't answer my question

  6. #136

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by florigaga View Post
    definitely you didn't answer my question
    I dont have to. Everybody knows god created Everee thing.

    ARGUMENT FROM IMAGINARY LAW OF SCIENCE
    (1) Theist states some imaginary law of science, and insists that it is inviolable and immutable.
    (2) Without any evident logical rationale, theist claims that this law of science necessitates that God exists.
    (3) Atheist points out that the "law of science" doesn't exist, and even if it were true it doesn't have anything to do with whether any god exists.
    (4) Theist restates the imaginary law of science and insists it is a fact.
    (5) Atheist asks for reliable evidence or logic.
    (6) Theist repeats imaginary law of science and points out that it hasn't been refuted.
    (7) Eventually, atheist grows tired of the conversation.
    ( Therefore, God exists.

  7. #137

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama92 View Post
    I dont have to. Everybody knows god created Everee thing.
    by everything, you mean, even this computer i'm using was created by him?

    how's that sound?

    on a serious note, how can you prove that God really did created everything?

  8. #138

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by florigaga View Post
    by everything, you mean, even this computer i'm using was created by him?

    how's that sound?

    on a serious note, how can you prove that God really did created everything?
    GOOD QUESTION


    ARGUMENT FROM MATHEMATICAL PROOF
    (1) The term 'God' implies wholeness, characteristic of the number one.
    (2) Identifying God with the number one is in accordance with Holy Scripture (Matthew 19:17 and Galations 3:30).
    (3) To prove the existence or necessity of the number one will prove the existence of God.
    (4) Nothingness is an identity for emptiness.
    (5) If one did not exist and emptiness was all there was, it should still be as such.
    (6) We don't have emptiness, and we can substitute 'God' for 'one'.
    (7) Therefore, God exists.

  9. #139

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama92 View Post
    GOOD QUESTION


    ARGUMENT FROM MATHEMATICAL PROOF
    (3) To prove the existence or necessity of the number one will prove the existence of God.
    and your basis is what? the bible? how reliable is your bible, nga sinuwat ra man na sa tawo? inspired by God? fine! it was inspired by God! but did God really appeared and talked to ancient man of long ago? how sure are you? and i guess this isn't a bad question. who created GOD? if your implying that it's impossible that something was created from nothing, well then, it would sound contradicting if you will disagree on the statement "somebody should've created God in the beginning", diba? hope that makes sense to you

    and finally, God has a beginning, and I know who created God

    it's MAN!

  10. #140

    Default Re: Religion is... - George Carlin's View

    Quote Originally Posted by florigaga View Post
    and your basis is what? the bible? how reliable is your bible, nga sinuwat ra man na sa tawo? inspired by God? fine! it was inspired by God! but did God really appeared and talked to ancient man of long ago? how sure are you? and i guess this isn't a bad question. who created GOD? if your implying that it's impossible that something was created from nothing, well then, it would sound contradicting if you will disagree on the statement "somebody should've created God in the beginning", diba? hope that makes sense to you

    and finally, God has a beginning, and I know who created God

    it's MAN!
    Umm. Can you not put together a whole chunk of questions in one paragraph? Its making me nuts D:

    The bible was written by people who experienced stuff you atheists would not believe.
    According to Scripture it is the writings, the finished product, that is authoritative, not the writers themselves. The Bible says the writers were sometimes unaware of the meanings of what they wrote.

    Daniel did not understand some of the prophecies he recorded


    They wrote what was on their mind all the time. They got the message they knew who it was from.

    As for who created god.
    God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause. He is beyond what exists on our planet.

    The conclusion is that if God needed a cause, then God is not God (and if God is not God, then of course there is no God).

    This might turn out hard to understand at first but you will eventually get it.
    Last edited by jinkazama92; 08-04-2011 at 11:11 AM.

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